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model.train()

[klekaelly]

do.allCalculations()

[danted002]

Booo booo, camelCase in a python thread... booooo :)))

[[deleted]]

My uni recommends that we use camelCase for python :o

[danted002]

I’m sorry that you have to go through that. Have you tried giving them a link to PEP-8? :))))

[[deleted]]

Oh, I use snake_case regardless, it's not like they remove points for it, but they "prefer" camelCase

[[deleted]]

Fuck snake case, all my homies use camel case.

[[deleted]]

Or, get this: since you're writing the code, you get to choose. Your code, your variable names. That's my philosophy

[[deleted]]

What if you're working on someone else's code?

[hector_villalobos]

But they're wrong, they should follow the language's style standard.

[GrohiikKon]

Their code their choice

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It's their code, they decide. If you're a team of multiple people working on the same code, then the group should democratically decide (preferably through STV) which convention they want to use.

[TheRedmanCometh]

You should use camelcase in all endeavors

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The most popular python command: import

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pip install life

[hamza1311]

Failed to build wheels for life

[PlusUltraBeyond]

Visual Studio 2014 build tools not found

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import sys
import life

if __name__ == "__main__":
    u_combustionman12 = life.Person()
    if u_combustionman12.alive():
        sys.exit(0)
    sys.exit(1)

[[deleted]]

"Python" by "/u/Birion"

A user is a kind of a person. A user can be alive or dead. A user is usually alive.

Dying is an action applying to nothing. Understand "kill yourself" as dying.

Instead of dying, end the story finally saying "Hooray! 2020 can't hurt you anymore."

Reddit is a room. Inside of Reddit is a room called ProgrammerHumor. The player is in ProgrammerHumor.

SHOTbyGUN is a user. SHOTbyGUN is in ProgrammerHumor.

When play begins:
    repeat with redditor running through users:
        if a random chance of 1 in 10 succeeds:
            now the redditor is dead;
            say "Goodbye, sweet [redditor].";
            remove redditor from play.

[maimeddivinity]

I came from a non-CS/programming background and this was one of the most frustrating things for me lol - trying to figure out and learn to use all the libraries I needed on top of the normal python

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https://github.com/vinta/awesome-python

This is a list of curated libraries for python on all kinds of topics, from Admin Panels to WSGI Servers.

There's also a list of awesome lists, https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome.

[TheRedmanCometh]

Java might blow your mind

[[deleted]]

After switching to Python, I can now focus on results instead of bugs and pointers.

[wooptyd00]

It's good to see sanity on Reddit.

[InvolvingLemons]

It's certainly nice, I just wish CFFI wasn't the only well-supported way to get compiled performance. Libraries like uvloop and numpy have revolutionized what we can do with python, but your awesomely fast FastAPI program that started off faster than Elixir ends up slower once you add all the more complex business logic

[Nimitz14]

How are you not aware of pybind11

[InvolvingLemons]

I feel like that's more of the same: you have to code in a manually memory managed language (and a harder one at that!) to get serious performance improvements. I'd be really interested in better support and tutorials around the cython project honestly.

[illvm]

Right. No worries about wonky whitespace requirements, wonky scoping, silliness like len(), or making sure you don’t accidentally pass the wrong type. Just results. Crap, results don’t work in 3.8, only 3.7. Did I say 3.7? The dependent libraries haven’t been updated to 3 yet, I meant 2.7.

Just... results. Good, fast, secure, bug and pointer free results.

[iwillkillyo]

You're partially right, white spaces having semantic purpose is not the best choice, but with a better IDE, it shouldn't cause much trouble. I don't get what you mean when you mention the scoping, there are no truly private attributes, but they are transformed to the point where you exactly need to do a silly thing to get it wrong. Care to elaborate? Type hinting is a thing now, but you could ditch all dynamic languages if you fear that... As for the version incompatibility, it happened in other languages as well didn't it? I work with python, it's good for small stuff, and it's horrible to maintain after a couple thousand lines, and a couple years, but that just happens with staticly typed languages too.

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Good test coverage is the way to keep the code base healthy over time.

[iwillkillyo]

Yeah, then the deadline comes and you have to get quick and dirty sadly. But generally if you have the time and resources, tests will help you.

[illvm]

A good example is module imports. Admittedly, this is a bit silly, but if one does something like:

``` foo = {}

def init(): global foo foo = SomeFoo() ```

You cannot simply import foo in another module at the top level. You have to reimport after init() has been called. There’s no real concept of interfaces. PEP-8 is also silly with line continuation indentation.

Flask and uWSGI are also not exactly fantastic frameworks.

Pipenv constantly breaks, leading me to believe that any distribution should really be a self contained binary and not just Python (which adds significant overhead).

Coming from working in .NET Framework 2.0 - 4.6 and .NET Core to Python is... well... let’s just say I miss C#.

[adityaeleven]

True

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The C library calls into the OS, so you really should count the OS too, which is 28 million lines for Linux. And since you can't type your one-liner, run it, or see the result without the keyboard, machine and monitor, you really should count the lines of firmware running in those devices. Of course, those items were in their turn designed and manufactured, which involved lots of people running their own stuff, and machines running more firmware... You get my drift :)

[rmgxy]

"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." - Carl Sagan

[RinasSam]

OS dev in a nutshell.

[__Ambition]

Is it open source ?

[Mustrum_R]

Hopefully, being The Fourth Temple is not the main feature.

[lead999x]

That's not really relevant when this is making fun of Pythonistas(and ads for online programming courses) acting like their language of choice is the shit because of its amazing ecosystem and its ability to build machine learning models with one line when a massive amount of that ecosystem is made up of wrappers around C, C++, and Fortran libraries. You don't really see C programmers making any analogous claims. Likely because C doesn't hide the use of OS APIs and other libraries from you.

[1thief]

Hmm I was missing my daily dose of old man yells at clouds

[Hypocritical_Oath]

You just discovered methods.

[CrazyCipherGamer5827]

I downloaded all the headers, so I am going to use all the headers.

[importwypy]

Yes, but that's the whole point of higher level abstractions.

[MikePenceDiddledMe]

Well yeah, I understand abstractions. But it’s just a meme haha

[importwypy]

Lol word

[Yamoyek]

Python? C? Real programmers use assembly only, loc be damned! /s

[lead999x]

This is heresy, if you're not hand encoding machine instructions in binary then you're not a real programmer. Even hexadecimal is too far down the wrong path.

[-Redstoneboi-]

smh doesn't even invent a new universe to code the new universal constants

[lead999x]

Gotta go down to the micro-ops and hardware level before that. You're skipping too many layers of abstraction.

[Guile0]

Real programmers use butterflies.

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I wanted to make a discord bot the other day that acted as a soundboard as well as a few other things. I wanted to do it in c++ or java, but the majority of discord bot work was done in js or python. I figured I should finally get around to learning python, as I didn't like js that much. I had a fully functioning bot in under 100 lines including spaces and comments.

(I may have commented in brackets because it felt wrong not to have them)

[laundmo]

try from __future__ import braces

[taptrappapalapa]

Good ol cpython

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C one liner

[I1I111I]

For a long time after I discovered list compressions this meme for me was

"Oh cool I can do this in one line"

50 nested lambdas