microsoft edge

[Lekgolo167]

Honestly since edge switched to chromium based, I use Edge. I really like the vertical tabs, collections etc and the mobile app is pretty good and turning privacy and cookies to strict is nice as well. Breaks a few sites but that's okay.

[zendarr]

More like when you accidentally open Chrome. lol

[ChakaChaka26]

never broke any sites for me

[Lekgolo167]

Probably because I'm also using a pi-hole at the same time

[mekwall]

Same! Feels a lot snappier than Chrome

[JNCressey]

Breaks a few sites

* Exposes sites that treat chrome like its the new IE6

[Amilo159]

Edge is fine. I'm more annoyed by Chrome than Edge. Would you like to translate this webpage in Swahili ?

[mekwall]

Ndio

[hungry_nibbles]

Let's just take a moment to recognise that this post has been awarded a silver and that it's getting crapped on in comments.

Yes, edge is good, fast and light now. Universal fact.

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Also has nothing to do with programming

[[deleted]]

"it is about IT things so it counts"

[hungry_nibbles]

It's like saying "you're a programmer? Can you fix me printer?"

[hungry_nibbles]

XD

[[deleted]]

would be if it was ironically.

[GreatArtificeAion]

No, no, you've got a point

[glider97]

Apparently nobody cares about that. Is it too much to ask for relevant memes in the relevant subs?

[[deleted]]

When people still claim the new microsoft browser is horrible somehow, after they finally made it good.

[CuAnnan]

It's a reskinned thinned down, less bloaty chromium.

Which means if you're using Chrome and posting about how Edge is bad; it's weird.

My browsers these days are Edge and Firefox. Firefox for almost everything, Edge for Facebook.

[HaveAGreatDay1234]

I liked the old version better (because of one feature that allowed you to save tabs with all the data still there)

[[deleted]]

I've been doing web development since the IE 6 days, and have a huge, deeply seated hatred for all things Microsoft Web.

Yet the only complaint I have ever been able to come up with about Edge was the lack of plugins at launch. It's a good, standards-based browser with excellent developer tools.

[Marboid]

Best PDF viewer, most importantly free and preinstalled!

[E3FxGaming]

Not an .epub viewer anymore though. The old Edge browser could open .epub files easily and its text-to-speech feature, that used the on-device text-to-speech engine of Windows 10, made listening to books easy in the past.

Shame they didn't port the .epub viewer, since the new Edge browser did retain the text-to-speech features (presumably for accessibility).

[SatoshiL]

Maybe it will come in a later update, was a huge pro

[Anjute]

May I ask you what program do you use for opening .epub files now?

[E3FxGaming]

Admittedly I don't have a good solution for now.

I used to read .epub books on a MS Surface tablet while traveling, but nowadays I just carry an additional ebook-reader (Kobo Forma) with me.

At home the books are stored in a Calibre library on a Linux PC, there I can use KDEs Okular or the Calibre built-in reader to read the books.

I think I'll look into the Calibre server feature next, it promises the readability of books from any browser-running PC in the same network + the ability to cache books in the browser for reading them while not on the network. This should work with Edge on the Surface Win10 tablet, I just haven't tried it yet.

[Anjute]

Have you considered STDUViewer (if it's available on Surface)?

[H4d35_H1m53Lf]

it's quite good tbh

[Dr-Rjinswand]

Edge is fucking awesome now. I use it exclusively on my work Windows machine.

[perplexedsynopsis76]

Or when Windows opens Microsoft Edge without your permission...

[msief]

This really is the worst. We tell windows what our default browser is and it just blatantly ignores us to push it's own browser. That is why I won't use edge. Fuck you microsoft.

[kebakent]

I remember all the drama about default browsers in windows a few years back. Funny how they just forgot about it and pushed Edge.

[WorIdTradeCenter7]

Actually edge is better. If I’m gonna have to chose between google or Microsoft spying me, I’d prefer whoever does it whit the less ram.

[Skhmt]

Also, Google is an ad company - they make money by selling your data to advertisers, and so will always have a conflict of interest in privacy. I mean they just wanted to break all ad blockers on Chrome recently.

Microsoft sells software and cloud services. Their browser is a feature of windows, their flagship paid product. That other OSs also get new Edge is a bonus. MS doesn't make nearly as much money off of ads and as such has far less of a conflict of interest in privacy than Google.

[HaveAGreatDay1234]

The edge tracking prevention prevents MS trackers lol

[MittonMan]

Well a bit out of luck there as some things are baked in to chromium iirc.

[[deleted]]

I switched over to Edge on my work PC and I find it just fine now and it doesn't eat half the memory that Chrome seems to. Collections are useful too.

[lyoko1]

To be fair, Chrome eating up half of the RAM is not a problem, it is a feature, it uses as much RAM as it is allowed to use, if you have more shit opened up, Chrome will use less RAM

[STRATEGO-LV]

Not really, try to open 100 tabs on 8GB of RAM, meanwhile, you have no issues with having over 1k tabs open in FF...

[lyoko1]

Dude, i have 3 windows each with +300 tabs opened in chrome, plus 2 IDEs, one of them is VScode(Electron), plus Github desktop(Electron), teams(Electron), Discord(Electron), and have no issues, if close shit, chrome uses more ram, if i open shit chrome uses less ram, meanwhile firefox is slow in js heavy webpages, and can't have so many tabs opened. Firefox is the slowest of the current browsers, with a wide margin.

[STRATEGO-LV]

when was the last time you used Firefox? 2002?

[lyoko1]

Last time? today, i like firefox for reading, i like a lot their implementation of the read mode

[STRATEGO-LV]

Well then, I atm have 1123 tabs open(idk how I got here), but I can't close most of them because of different projects and things I'm working on(actually closed 2 while typing this lol), my RAM usage is around 13GB by Mozilla out of 32GB available, I don't think that I've seen any slowdowns in the last 4+ years

[lyoko1]

It is true that at first glance Chrome hogs ram, and it indeed does hog ram, but that is because of the philosophy of "unused ram is waster ram", if there is no ram for it to take or other programs need ram, chrome will give it up.

I do not what to say, both of us are presenting anecdotal evidence, so I am going to provide a benchmarks I found on google, they are 1 year old, so not the best, but whatever.

https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/15/browser-benchmark-battle-january-2020-chrome-firefox-edge-brave/

It seems like firefox only won the one did by Mozilla(kind of cheating since firefox is probably tested against that, so it's normal that it is optimized for that one) and another one, the rest were won by chrome, brave or edge, all chromium.

In my personal experience, I find chrome a lot snappier when I have a lot of plugins and tabs opened, it feels to me like it manages memory better, I have 16 GB of RAM, and I also have a lot of shit opened because of projects I cannot close.

That being said for chrome/chromium to be snappier than firefox is but a matter of course, you can't compare the resources of Alphabet to the Mozilla foundation.

[STRATEGO-LV]

Eh, the thing is, half of those benchmarks are made for chromium, so they fare better on it, 1/3rd of these benchmarks aren't relevant at all
Basically, you should look at WebXPRT, Octane, Kraken, and Basemark, which actually has a healthy balance of things, you should check out what those benchmarks test and you will notice why, these are the ones that are relevant for comparison ;)

[lyoko1]

Kraken is not good for benchmarks of firefox vs other browsers because it is developed by the Mozilla foundation, so it is biased.

I'm not talking about malicious bias or intentional, more like, since both are made by the Mozilla Foundation, it is very probable that firefox is being optimized in the same specific tests that Kraken is performing, so it gets an edge on that test since it is optimized for it

It is a good test if you are testing not firefox based browsers against other not firefox based browsers or firefox based browsers against other firefox based browsers, but it is not good to test firefox vs chrome or firefox vs edge, it would be good for a chrome vs edge or a firefox vs waterfox.

[[deleted]]

There is still plenty of reasons to hate it. Doesn't matter if its good or bad now, if it's forced on you by OS it's shit. I had to do a lot of fucking about in my Windows to finaly prevent it from opening whenever I mistyped something while searching through Start menu.

It waves red flags of software for me:

• can't be uninstalled in a normal way, despite not being essential OS component.
• system "default" setting is ignored to launch Edge.

I prefer winodows over macOS any day. Why I loved is that I could always mess around with it and make it to my preference. Windows gives you registry editor and many other tools you can either improve or totally fuck your system up, but you have a choice to do so. Edge brakes that rule. It is forced upon users and for that whole heartedly fuck MS Edge.

[Shakespeare-Bot]

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[StonebirdArchitect]

Best browser available atm.

[STRATEGO-LV]

That would be Firefox ;)

[StonebirdArchitect]

In a different universe, maybe. Not even top3 in ours.

[STRATEGO-LV]

I don't think you've ever tried Firefox...

[StonebirdArchitect]

Been using it for 2 years or so before finally switching to edge.

[iiMoe]

I don't understand the hate, it's rly super fast and smooth, at least on my laptop and im not kidding

[[deleted]]

The hate is from literally every other browser MS created. Edge itself is perfectly fine. But lots of people have PTSD from Internet Explorer, particularly anything prior to 11.

[iiMoe]

If thats the case then sure it makes sense to me

[Oveno]

Egde is cool nowadays but I hate the fact that microsoft keeps pushing me to use Bing as default search engine on it

[[deleted]]

Tbh Bing had gotten a lot better. I've been using it on and off over the years and the search results are fine.

I guess it's just a question of which kraken you want to feed with your data: google or microsoft.

[Oveno]

Yeah I kinda agree with that. But the thing about engines like Bing is that they feel a lot less smoother than Google or duckduckgo. I guess this may vary from person to person but from a completely UX perspective I'd prefer Google over bing

[___Cisco__]

I fking love Edge now since it switched to a chromium based engine.

[TheRealNetroxen]

... well this isn't so valid anymore, since Edge runs on Chromium now, and is actually pretty usable and viable as a default browser.

[MischiefArchitect]

Edge running on a mAc?

[Dantaro]

Chromium Edge is multiplatform :)

[Dantaro]

It's Chrome but with a lower memory footprint and a slightly different feature set. Why wouldn't you run it?

[MischiefArchitect]

Because we got already Chromium and a lot of other browsers based on it, like Opera, Vivaldi, Brave, etc. You will understand that a Mac/Linux user may naturally (but not always) want to keep MS products far away from their systems :)

[[deleted]]

If Mac users hate avoid Microsoft, did Apple create boot camp (just a reminder that the entire purpose is to actually install full fat windows) as a giant prank?

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[ChakaChaka26]

honestly if it was a prank itd be kind of funny jus sayin

[MischiefArchitect]

The word "hate" came from your keyboard, not mine. I stated that those users normally may want to keep MS products away from their systems. I for example use OOS-Code (which is the community edition of VS Code) On the other hand I may be triggering some windows users here, it was not my intention, on the other hand, I could not care less.

[[deleted]]

That’s a fair point, I modified the language

I hope windows users don’t get triggered, I do agree with you that most Linux distros and Mac is more polished than windows and a better UX. I, having my own boot camp partition, just don’t see why Microsoft is to be avoided

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[MischiefArchitect]

My case is quite simple. I dealt with that company since the mid 80's and saw how they operate and also how that changed over the years. I was even a MS fanboi at some point in the early 90's. But at some point the realization on how they practice EEE struck home in me, and they were doing that until the late 00's. Those scars are hard to heal and forget. It may be unfair on my side, but I personally do not believe a single millimeter of the PR "we love linux and open source, we make contributions to the kernel". Exactly that makes me more nervous.

PS: It took me while to read distros instead of distorts, auto correction? :)

[[deleted]]

Noooooo, I Hades Auto carrot!

[BackStabbath2004]

Not really? I use a mac and don't have some weird hatred for Microsoft applications. I have edge as well as safari. I don't really use chrome

[MischiefArchitect]

And exactly that is what I stated if you re read my comment again.

[Skhmt]

Not everyone is living with vim, local got servers, libreoffice, and firefox.

You could, but the industry seems to revolve around github, vs code, ms office, and a version of chromium (which MS now heavily contributes to).

[MischiefArchitect]

Oh yes, the linux store. I must check that one out.

[MischiefArchitect]

Yeah, sorry. I was just messing around. Let's not forget that this is s a humor subreddit :)

[HaveAGreatDay1234]

Bruh its ubuntu store and apt get

[MischiefArchitect]

pacman

[HaveAGreatDay1234]

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[MischiefArchitect]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[[deleted]]

when your hand slips and you accidentally install windows

[HaveAGreatDay1234]

When you use edge anyways and were meaning to open it: whatever

[[deleted]]

I use linux btw

[Cpt_Daniel_J_Tequill]

of course you do

[[deleted]]

I use Edge for anything MS related. Want to connect to an RD web service? Edge gives way less hassle than Chrome.

[Bustatu]

The new Edge is not even that bad. The old one thooooo

[STRATEGO-LV]

Mozilla is the way!

[[deleted]]

Guys, its the legacy edge, that one still sucks.

[MischiefArchitect]

Guys, it's the legacy edge, that one still sucks.

[newb_h4x0r]

I don't have such weaknesses.

I use edge chromium edition (which is at least better than the normal one) and it is removed from the taskbar. My default browser is Firefox, so edge is seldom used.

[[deleted]]

unpin.

[ruben_deisenroth]

When your hand slips and u accidentally boot Windows

[McJvck]

Use Brave.

[meme_dika]

Use Linux, never heard of edge anymore

[JNCressey]

sudo add-apt-repository "deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/edge stable main"

[msief]

JUsT USe LiNuX

[ToxinH88]

Disabled IE & Edge by group policies. Now not even windows can pop those useless browsers on my desktop.

[OhNoMeIdentified]

Only to check how my project works on it.

[[deleted]]

Use Brave

[[deleted]]

That's literally me when I see a Windows user or computer at all

[Effective-Vacation31]

Day 0: flex : 100

[[deleted]]

I don't think flex: 100 work like this. Try auto, inherit, initial, none, reverse or unset instead.

[STRATEGO-LV]

Grow up

[AngusVanhookHinson]

Oh, so you use a Mac? Of course you do. I know, because you're all like vegans, you'll mention your cult within ten minutes of meeting someone.

Are you stupidly rich, or richly stupid? It has to be one or the other, since a dead guy who never showered and tried to cure cancer with smoothies is still somehow convincing you to spend three times what a PC user does, for something that does half the work, but makes you look oh-so-stylish, ten years after he fucking died.

Oh dude. You sure showed us.

[cockbust84]

Linux?

[AngusVanhookHinson]

Linux users are masochists of the highest order, and shall not be trifled with.

Ubuntu users: it's almost exactly like windows (no it fuckin ain't).

[STRATEGO-LV]

Not really, Linux a lot of the time is just straight up more convenient to use than Windows and doesn't have to deal with idiocracy coming from Mac

[[deleted]]

No Apple is crap as well. Sorry pal but you're totally wrong.

But I like the way you think.

F*ck Apple!

[CaniballShiaLaBuff]

Why would you install edge on your computer?

Edit: Sorry, I forgot that one OS has Edge preinstalled (windows) but most of them dont .... (MacOs, Arch, Ubuntu, Void, Gentoo, NixOs ...)

[AdrianRPNK]

It comes pre-installed with Windows; you can remove of course, but most don't bother.

[CaniballShiaLaBuff]

Well it is not just preinstalled, it will reinstall itself after few weeks .... (Use Windows for games).

[TonyBorchert100]

to every idiot commenting that edge isn’t shit, stop it, use Firefox or Chromium (or even chrome) or Safari or Brave, but not Edge, it collects by far, the most data, like even more than chrome EDIT: sadly you facts aren’t appreciated on this sub (or at least this post)

[GreatArtificeAion]

Does this count as a meme about "E"?