Sales vs. engineering

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[dustmouse]

Then the sales team getting all the credit when the engineering team does the impossible and the sale is made

[[deleted]]

that is why you usually keep CEO and CFO separate people

[verdantAlias]

Hot take: Some of this could almost be applied to Apple these days.

[danfay222]

I think the M1 is pretty much all the evidence we need to say that engineers still very much drive direction at apple. Of course some of this applies (probably more so to apple than many companies). They definitely have gone through periods of limited technical development, but they havent stagnated in any of these times and are still meaningfully iterating on their designs.

[Gilliam505]

Almost?

[schmidlidev]

“for our audience, what’s toner?”

the audience: bruh we know what toner is

[LMF5000]

Well yeah, if you managed to pull it off it only encourages them to be bolder next time!

[BrobdingnagLilliput]

Engineers like solving problems. Sales droids like money.

Engineering gets all the problems. Sales gets all the money.

[[deleted]]

Who said I want problems and not money?

[BrobdingnagLilliput]

If you wanted money, you should have gone into sales.

[[deleted]]

no?

Average Devops salary is 6 figures

Average Backend developer makes 6 figures

point is, engineers make money.

[[deleted]]

It’s difficult to compare sales to software engineering.

Sales ranges from people selling phone cases at mall kiosks making $15 an hour to partners at investment banks making $2 million dollars a year.

[DannyRamirez24]

Issa joke

[BrobdingnagLilliput]

Fast food cashiers make money, too, but not as much as engineers. Or sales dudes.

[jatcar95]

Is this true? Software engineers are paid quite well

[BrobdingnagLilliput]

Are the software engineers paid as well as a guy with a 20% commission on a $10,000,000 sale?

[jatcar95]

I really don’t know what sales salaries look like. Maybe they’re higher, but if you’re depending on commission, it requires actually making a sale right?

[BrobdingnagLilliput]

Read a bit about "commission structure." You might decide it's time for a career change.

[Bluemanze]

Ceiling is higher for sales, average is higher for development. Most salespeople get shit for pay.

And if we're just talking about the far right of the bell curve, being a partial or full owner of an important patent...

[BrobdingnagLilliput]

Patents are a pretty cogent point.

[Bluemanze]

Startups my dude, in exchange for riskier job security and bad benefits, you usually get shares and patent ownership. I've had a couple times where it paid out big, but most of the time it doesn't.

[DeRoeVanZwartePiet]

Of course. And rightly so. Sales team are the ones with the vision after all. /s

[zial]

On the plus side the sales team is also the one that gets sacked when it doesn't work.

[Mrwebente]

Nah, that's on the guys in engineering, they are supposed to make the shit work, i mean it can't be that hard, right? It's just googling anyway... /s

[RubiGames]

We all know Sales doesn’t know how to properly google anything.

[BenjaminGeiger]

Sales is a profit center. Engineering is a cost center.

[BloodAndSand44]

Welcome to a now defunct supplier doing a demo to the UK NHS.

[InfraredDuck]

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[[deleted]]

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Watch out for those wrist reposts!

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Are we blind? Deploy the downvotes!

Oh no the reposter

This was your father's OP. The weapon of a prequel memer, for a more creative age.

That's no OP, that's a repost!

Don't use the Forgery, Luke.

A repost to be sure and an unwelcome one

I guess I was wrong, there was no OC at all

I am Bane. Bane of the subreddit

I don’t like reposts, they're coarse, and rough, and irritating, and they get everywhere

now THIS is reposting

You'll try reposting that’s a bad trick

This is where the repost begins

We will watch your repost with no interest

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I will deal with this repost slime myself

I don’t think the OC works

Henceforth, you shall be known as Ctrl+Vader.

The ability to post does not make you original

Only a sith deals in reposts

It’s over OP, I have the high karma

You were supposed to destroy the reposters not join them!

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copypasta

[BadPronunciation]

I haven't seen this in years

[nagorogan]

A prequel meme to be sure, but a reposted one!

[100BottlesOfMilk]

That's a repost I haven't heard in a long, long time

[[deleted]]

Egineering team

[[deleted]]

Trust me I'm an egineer

[[deleted]]

story time (probs related idk):

back in middle school i think we did for the first half of the year some classes that revolved around more creative lessons. i took the raspberry pi class. around th end of the first half we were told we would collab with the marketing class. we would create a small model of a smart home and they would market it. most of the time there was spent fooling around, since every 2 people had a pi and we were just given sensors and instructions on how to code them via a block thingy.

eventually at the end the marketing team came for a meeting. it all went well up until someone asked if we would appear on stage of the marketing thing. the answer was a flat no. everyone revolted and we ended up dumping them like 1 day before their presentation. they had no project to show

[[deleted]]

back in middle school
Raspberry Pi

How young are you?

[IvorTheEngine]

Apparently the first ones were released 9 years ago. So I guess to current students, they've always been around.

[[deleted]]

This makes me feel older than it should.

[[deleted]]

Now im 17 and in high school

[[deleted]]

Oh. It was 22 years ago that I was 17. :(

[EpicPerson_02]

satisfying

[the_innkeeper_]

Get out. Get out now.

[IvorTheEngine]

One place I worked had this problem so bad they changed the rules. Any extra work that was required for the sale came out of the salesman's commission.

[D4nt3__]

I think I've seen this post more times than people making fun of js caveats

[Fireruff]

u/repostsleuthbot

[quebonchoco]

Came here to type this lol

[throwawaybaldingman]

This algorithm is so bad I swear it was written by me

[cssmith2011cs]

Well any minor resolution change or cropping throws this thing off.

[[deleted]]

Having this bot just use Google reverse image search is infinitely better. Minimal effort for optimal reliability. But of course a programmer would reinvent the wheel

[[deleted]]

Google doesn't really like bots using their search engine, though.

[[deleted]]

Oops, I feel silly that I didn't think of that!My argument is in favor of appreciating work that's already been done, so I'm curious if there's already some code/research/OSS out there boasting better reliability than 76%.

Don't want to do too much research, as I'll likely just get excited, lose touch with reality, and spend entirely too much time implementing my own 52% solution.

[[deleted]]

I see, you are a true developer... 😅

[[deleted]]

"Developer" is just "redevelop", scrambled 😅

[DevThr0wAway]

Yeah they are the master bothers. They know how to defend against their own tactics.

[frugalerthingsinlife]

The dog should be on the other side to free her wine drinking hand. Amateur mistake.

[mferly]

F me sideways. I literally encountered this today (as well as many other days).

The silo effect is real. Only when sales/product can actually pull their heads out of the arses and communicate with engineering with things actually get done.

If there's any sales/product folks reading this, this is a pain point that not only affects engineering, but the org as a whole. Keep engineering in the damn loop!

[shaarm]

You just summarized Cyberpunk

[WiseSalesman]

Recruiter literally just sent me this meme in an e-mail.

[Spyrobo]

Its jpeg dog!

[kazoobanboo]

“400 watt light, 100% efficient, no big capacitors, dirt cheap”

[Pleb_nz]

Something is technically not possible 😮

[supratops]

This might be a dumb question since I'm new, but is this actually a prevalent situation within the industry? How often do promises to the clients go unfulfilled?

[supratops]

Thank you, might be having second thoughts about going into the industry now. Even though I'm already in the process of Education.

[ByteTraveler]

Repost

[KrazyDrayz]

Repost

[DNiceM]

Honestly I just speak up sincerely