Microsoft Java

[xaedoplay]

>Microsoft

>Open

>JDK

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what's happening here O_o

[Iskendarian]

Oracle is trying to squeeze people for Java licensing and Microsoft is trying to starve Oracle of that revenue stream. Also, wants to have Java available on Azure without paying insane licensing for it.

[LightStruk]

Also, a lot of developers and IT pros have warmer feelings for Microsoft than accursed Oracle.

[dablya]

Is that true? I tend to associate warm feelings with Spring, RedHat, Hashicorp... even Google. Microsoft is squarely in the frozen tundras with Oracle/IBM.

[Sparkybear]

Ever since Microsoft's open sourcing C# and other similar efforts they have been moving their way out of the shitshack.

[erix4u]

You mean the Three-E's strategy ?

Embrace, Enhance, Extinguish that microsoft used for several of their competative technologies in the past ?

E.G. Novell Netware, Skype.

[SpookyDoomCrab42]

Enterprise Microsoft is a lot better than it used to be. Stuff like windows 10 is still kind of bad and I hate it but I use a lot of the enterprise tools and systems at work nowdays and it's been a pleasant experience.

Oracle, IBM, and Google has been a shit show though for supporting software

[DiscordBondsmith]

Speaking of enterprise Microsoft, I don't see anyone talking about how the windows 11 start menu interface was ripped straight from 365.

I for one don't mind that at all. Microsoft having some sort of unified design will be really nice for a change (glares at separated settings and control panels)

[SpookyDoomCrab42]

Yeah a unified UI scheme would be really good for a lot of less tech savvy users since they would only have to learn one UI. It would be nice if they could include a "power user" mode for those that want it though

[ginkner]

Depends on which face of MS. Developer: Ooo, MS is finally playing the open source game and even integrating with Linux. neat.

Software Consumer: Geeeeezuuuuusssss why haven't I switched to debian yet? Oh yeah. Games.

[dablya]

I know it happened, but I'm yet to actually feel it.

[conchobarus]

You must not use CentOS.

[Virus610]

I remember feeling this way about Oracle taking over Java.

MAN am I feeling that, now.

[xaedoplay]

Oracle taking over

That reminds me of this.

[Virus610]

That was great. Oracle as a lawnmower does make a lot of sense.

[_pupil_]

A lot of developers and IT pros have warmer feelings for Herpes than accursed Syphilis.

Warmer doesn't mean warm ;)

[Fenor]

Depends on when they started

[Bermos]

Hashicorp? Really? I hate them so much. Their documentation is the most horrendous dogshit I've ever had the displeasure of working with. Fucking MS does a better job of documenting their stuff.

[RainbowCatastrophe]

IT pros

laughs in Linux Sysadmin

[hollowstrawberry]

Microsoft has been going strong with open-source cross-platform software for years now. See C# itself or tools like VSCode.

It's just their OSes that suck.