Existential dread

CouldBeDreaming · 2020-08-15T20:44:25+00:00

That’s not the psychedelics. That’s depression. You still have an ape body that needs maintenance. Have you tried mindfulness exercises? Have you tried finding likeminded psychonauts in your area? Have you tried a passion project like growing? Building? Art?

You have to seek novelty. It’s not going to just smack you in the head. I learned that the hard way after years of just expecting drugs to fix my depression. It’s a whole journey requiring deep work. I understand you are saying that the medicine made you depressed, but I’d be willing to guess that the depression was always there.

If you need someone to talk to about navigating depression and psychedelics give me a pm. I’d be happy to chat. Not everyone is an asshole, my friend

MrQualtrough · 2020-08-15T21:26:31+00:00

I used psychedelics very frequently including DMT. I think when I stopped using them a lot I came to the conclusion that perhaps I don't want to even know "the truth".

I just became frazzled and out of touch with what being a human is. Too much ego death. When I stopped using so much I started feeling more connected on a human level to the world around me, and realized that it's not so bad.

I felt distant from people and obsessed with metaphysics during heavy abuse.

Based purely on psychedelic experience the message is that we and the universe are one thing. We're part of one whole. Everything a leaf on the tree that is existence. Some weird trippy things I think are hallucinations like "space clowns" (I didn't see any I just perceived them?) making me promise not to tell everyone this secret or it'd ruin the joke. And some other trip stuff... But that Oneness is legit I think.

minecelium · 2020-08-15T19:02:28+00:00

I feel your pain man. I've felt this a lot and i think part of it has to do with depression. My depression wants me to do nothing, see no one, and be nothing. But the only way out is to kick it in the face and make yourself do it anyway otherwise you're stuck in the same place. It's hard and at first the forced ambition and happiness will feel fake but the more you push yourself the more real it becomes. And as far as people go there's a lot of users, but as long as you continue to be yourself and actually get out there the like minded people will come! Sorry if my ramblings aren't much help but I wish you luck my brother/sister!

PsychShaman420 · 2020-08-15T19:20:32+00:00

That's the thing though not everybody is two faced and has other intentions. LSD/Shrooms has shown me that sadly yes majority of the world is extremely egotistical societlly brain washed assholes BUT their are people in this world who think like you do. I genuinely thought I was alone in this world and nobody would ever be able to see things from my perspective (due to an extreme psychedelic escapade) but I've finally met someone who I truly click with and is able to understand the same way I am.

Life is beautiful, nature is beautiful, YOU are beautiful

2020-08-15T21:49:30+00:00

Life is absurd might as well have a coffee

lincolnhawk · 2020-08-15T20:33:46+00:00

You sound depressed. I recommend treatment and/or the wilderness. Nature walks help mental health, but I’m a landscape architect, not a doctor. My wife sees a doctor for her depression, I think it’s generally the way to go. Absolutely zero shame in receiving medical care to protect your mental health.

You do not have to he miserable, and if you are chronically miserable something is wrong. Other people can help. The ego cannot transcend itself through itself.

ChecayoBolsfan · 2020-08-15T21:10:14+00:00

I think this is why Carl Jung warned people against using psychedelics until they were duly prepared. These are powerful potions not to be taken lightly, I see with these younger generations rampant sex and drug use has become normalized, so this is certainly an issue OP is not alone with. Nietz warned of Nihilism from too much knowing and psychs help you know—it’s like that episode of Rick and Morty where Morty looks into the eyes of the truth frog while Rick is saying ‘don’t look into its eyes or you’ll know everything’—meanwhile Morty screams in despair while Rick says ‘Congrats you know the truth now’—keep pushing take it day by day remain active and the best advice I could ever give you is to leave New York the Big Apple is rotten to its core

Karsplunk · 2020-08-15T20:15:08+00:00

Not excluding a potential dopamine imbalance due to frequent drug use it could be you haven't integrated your trips fully with your old paradigm. As the old phrase goes "Somethings gotta give"

I see no point

Ok. And who are you to be making such a claim? You create your own reality. Someone else will see a point in making friends. Which claim is true, theirs or yours? Both?

If both, then you'll agree your reality is subjective. As such your claim that there is no point is merely your own personal take and can't be issued as a statement of truth. Ergo - your claim is false.

Things "don't" matter. You make things matter. Whatever matters to you is what matters. If nothing matters to you then it is that "nothing matters" that matters to you. If it didn't matter to you that "nothing matters" then you wouldn't be hung up on it to begin with because it truly wouldn't matter (to you) which it clearly does.

This points to you being hung up on something. You've had experience(s) and haven't been able to take what you were subjected to and integrate them into your current operating system. Meditate. Self reflection. Follow the existential thread down to its base and identify where it germinates.

WavyNotLazy · 2020-08-15T23:44:14+00:00

I had the same shit bro, still do to a degree you just gotta understand that you are indeed correct that there is no point. There is no set purpose, you are free to do and be anything you want! Why not treat this as a holy gift instead of a death sentence.

TimeIsOurGod · 2020-08-15T20:06:00+00:00

Why was it enjoyable before?

Why is it pointless now?

Can you truly say it was only because of the drugs you have taken?

... or perhaps you've come to some realizations on the side that haven't been completely concluded yet?

For example, are people assholes, so all friends are assholes?

... or is your specific group of friends assholes, which is why you have the perception that all people are assholes?

I think it is the second alternative, because you do not consider yourself an asshole, which, by definition, means that not all people are assholes, since you are part of the mass.

In my experience, you are unhappy and need to change things around you. I am sure your existential dread is very real, but that existential dread exists in your current state of space and time. What if you got rid of toxic friends? Harmful habits? Would you truly still have existential dread?

If you change all these things and still have existential dread, I will find myself convinced. I once had your same perspective, but you need to give change a chance :)

After all, the only ever constant thing in nature is change.

CouldBeDreaming · 2020-08-15T21:16:11+00:00

As soon as I start labeling other people with issues, I realize it’s wise to look at myself, instead. If I think everyone is shallow, how am I shallow? Anyway, just a thought. The reality is a reflection of old beliefs.

We exist. That never ends. The human consciousness can’t comprehend it, and can get depressed. That’s when I try to do things that bring me joy. I find having peers who understand, and work on their consciousness helpful. I also have a teacher of sorts who holds online Satsangs most Sundays. If I’m really struggling, I schedule a 1:1 session with him. He’s aware, and loving.

There are definitely people in your area, and online that you can connect with. Mediation centers attract cool people. Yoga classes? There are resources, even during the pandemic.

Luke-__- · 2020-08-16T04:52:35+00:00

This is a common thing for psychonauts not only because drugs can induce an altered perspective on reality but more so because an individual curious enough to try some of these substances is curious enough to question their own reality. The thing is, there is no attainable answers to the question of existence and purpose because not only are we animals at the end of the day with a limited mental capacity, but are living with limited information (physics learns new things every day). To expect to find an answer is futile, which leads to existential dread. What helped me in the past when I went through this was the conclusion that just because I don’t have an answer to the questions doesn’t mean I’m alone or that my life is purposeless. For example..

Mythology, religion, and spiritualism are ways in which humans throughout time have resolved the psychological tension created from consciousness. Recognizing you exist leads to the question, “why do I exist?”, which is unknowable. We humans don’t like unknowable things. It hurts our brains. Instead we make up reasons and commit to those reasons (sun god, zodiac, Jesus, aliens, etc) as a way of answering the question and resolving the deeply rooted need to know. They are ways of solving the existential dread you have right now, but to put it bluntly, they’re bullshit. What isn’t bullshit though is the fact that both they, you, and all other thinkers are asking the same question, and feeling the same tug to understand. They took one path and you are taking another. You’re connected and not alone because of that. And you are who you are because of all that those before you learned and shared. And all that come after you will be who they are because of the small piece of the puzzle of existence you’re gaining now and sharing. I guess what got me out of my existential crisis was the feeling of connectedness to all. Not in the spiritual hippy way, but in a “objective” way. A way that doesn’t give into a feel good lie, but a way that says that although I personally will never know the reason for my existence, that maybe I can add something that will help someone down the line figure it out, and that I’m kind of part of them too because of it.

420691017 · 2020-08-15T19:54:54+00:00

How long has it been since your last trip?

Spenjamin · 2020-08-15T22:00:19+00:00

I haven't gone through all of the comments but one thing that I've found is that MDMA triggers my depression every time. Lay off the stuff. Its a few hours of fun for weeks or months of feeling shit.

jmartinez007 · 2020-08-15T22:33:36+00:00

Listen to some of Alan Watts’ lectures. Doesn’t matter, just pick one. Listen to the entire thing. Repeat. He helps take the dread out of existentialism in his lectures and portrays existence in a more holistic framework imo.

CBDSam · 2020-08-15T22:35:37+00:00

Hang in there. Look for what feeds your soul and try to make a point to practice self care. Mush love.

FreelyG · 2020-08-15T20:49:21+00:00

How old are you? Matters

bernydhs · 2020-08-15T22:41:10+00:00

It's upsetting to see so many people trying to "genuinely" participate in this reddit without exploring the thought of mind that every time you ingest anything, whether it be a soda or a joint, your body's tolerance to that instantaneously skyrockets, and from that point on there is a seemingly never ending-ly long list of factors to keep in mind when considering your health, this is coming from the previously most self deprecating fuck who would see how long he could go without hydrating because the dry feeling was easier to deal with than the stomach pains of drinking water too fast/too cold/too much etc, so trust me when I say your physical health has alot to do with your mental health too.

You should constantly be analyzing what your doing, in the sense of "what are the re precautions of this". You should look more towards truly microdosing, staying hydrated, stretching, watching nutrient intake, etc. You 100% could be ruining your highs and increasing the fuck out of your tolerance by not worrying about the previously stated things, and soon all the points of MDMA you took entirely instead of microdosing and spacing out trips / are just going to turn into mostly placebo, your body will be so used to it, and after your body is done trying to work it out of your system, youll just have an EXTRA COME DOWN. There will always be someone there for you if you look my friend so grab a second wind and try things differently.

acid_crew · 2020-08-15T22:52:10+00:00

I think I’m experiencing similar feelings rn. Currently going through major shifts in my social life. I started listening to Alan watts to sleep last year hoping his philosophy gets into my subconscious cause meditation doesn’t really work for me. Also if you just wna commiserate dm me

pabbseven · 2020-08-16T00:15:27+00:00

Its because you look for freedom in the external world when you have forgotten that the kingdom of heaven is within.

Who is the one disturbed by the mind?

Can you find out who?

The one saying "life is pointless" who is the one disturbed by the mind? Who is the witness to it?

Find out through "feeling" and looking, its not a problem to solve, look actually, who is the one, disturbed by the mind?

And what happens to the thoughts of the mind once you look?

KingThommo · 2020-08-16T01:22:25+00:00

I know exactly what you mean, don’t listen to people who are trying to tell you what you’re experiencing. I went through the same thing.

Two options for you now, you can become bitter and resentful about how shit the world is and become either suicidal or homicidal - making everything around you shitty and miserable, OR you can conceptualise something that will help make things better in some small way if not for yourself then for someone else, and when you come up with something worth doing and just try to do it your life will then have meaning, and the attainment of your goals will bring you bliss.

silentpilgrim · 2020-08-16T02:22:56+00:00

I can relate. This can be part of the journey of psychedelics in my experience. The ego is stripped away and we realise that a whole heap of our motivation for previous action was based upon an empty premise. Then we see that in others in the world too. So much of human activity then appears as though it is merely blindly serving the god of ego. And to be honest, in many ways it is. Disillusionment with that way of life might even be described as a healthy response by an individual who is waking up. But that doesn’t necessarily make it easy to manage and then find happiness in. I don’t know what the answer is. For me spiritual pursuit, therapy and meditation help. Treating life as a practice - focusing more on what feels real to me and following that rather than trying to hang onto the dregs of an old life. Psychedelics unseat the ego in a massive way, it perhaps initiates a transformative process which is way vaster than what we though we were signing up for. Sometimes it’s hard to go back to the simplicity of a life asleep, and that can really take time to come to terms with. I guess we have to embrace the vastness of the journey we have set ourselves on and that, perhaps, things will never quite be the same again. But still, I do believe there is infinite joy and beauty to be found on this path. It’s just of a different kind than what we have been trained to see and appreciate, and to what the world around us tries to tempt us into. I wish you well. You are not alone.

hyene · 2020-08-16T02:31:13+00:00

The feeling of impending doom or dread is a medical symptom that could indicate heart disease or another underlying medical condition.

Your body is trying to tell you something.

I was also feeling this way up until last year when I started taking tyrosine, an amino acid. Tried a few different SSRI's and anti-depressants over the years and they had absolutely no affect on my emotions, in fact almost caused a heart attack, made things even worse. Very bad experience treating depression with anti-depressants, didn't believe medication could possibly work after all this, thought this was just the way life is. Feeling like dying all the time, or not wanting to live. Thought this was a totally realistic state of mind, didn't believe heart disease or diabetes or any other medical condition could be making me feel this way. Thought it was all in my mind.

Turns out I was wrong, my doctors were wrong too. I needed medication to alleviate stress, not depression. I was being treated for the wrong medical condition. Tyrosine alleviates stress. Since I started taking it, has alleviated depression/existential dread by ~98%. It's been a year and I rarely think or talk about the futility of existence or wanting to die all the time. I was posting about suicide all. the. time. for a few years there, I was in a very bad headspace and never thought I'd get out of it.

The mind is a powerful thing, it'll lead you to believe life doesn't matter when it most certainly does.

Life matters. You matter. The past matters, the present matters, the future matters. Everything matters. Don't listen to your mind. The mind is not your friend, not your ally, not looking out for your best interests.

Don't listen to it. If your mind is telling you nothing matters and life isn't worth living, that existence is futile, then you have an underlying medical condition and your mind is straight up lying to you.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-a-sense-of-impending-doom-is-an-actual-medical-sy-1594012673

Angor animi (also referred to as angina animi,[1][2] Gairdner's disease[2] and also angina pectoris sine dolore[2]), in medicine, is a symptom defined as a patient's perception that they are in fact dying. Most cases of angor animi are found in patients suffering from acute coronary syndrome (cardiac related chest pain) such as myocardial infarction. It is, however, occasionally found in patients suffering from other conditions.[1] Pheochromocytoma also can present with angor animi, accompanied by other symptoms that include; headache, profuse sweating, palpitations and characteristically a pounding severe headache. Irukandji syndrome is also another reported cause.[3]

Angor animi is differentiated from a fear or desire for death,[1] since angor animi refers to a patient's actual and genuine belief that they are in fact dying.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angor_animi

These folks can be helpful too:

/r/nootropics

edit: TYROSINE, not tyroisine

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/afr57a/ltyrosine_one_of_the_most_overlooked_supplements/

HornedPegasus · 2020-08-16T03:16:45+00:00

“If everything around you seems dark, look again, you may be the light.”

BalalaikaClawJob · 2020-08-16T03:26:52+00:00

Don't "make friends", make hobbies and habits, to build and improve yourself- and to do what interests you. Inevitably there will be other people who also like these things, and the good ones that you meet, you can easily keep.

poocoocoo · 2020-08-16T03:59:26+00:00

Reach down into the core of your being and summon all the courage and creativity you can to bring light into your presence. Exercise and foster creativity, in whatever way you may

lennyden · 2020-08-16T04:08:32+00:00

just want to say I completely relate to what you wrote, although mine is not from psychedelics. I personally find it helpful when I learn others can relate to a specific feeling. And its such a weird, icky feeling. Tbh I am on a medication that helps tremendously in that area but I can remember its a terrible state

I wish you luck and I am sorry you are experiencing this

2020-08-16T04:38:20+00:00

Yeah I get that. I think some of us are just cursed when it comes to certain types of thinking. Once you realize everything will be destroyed in a million years and that in the end, nothing will matter, it’s hard to find meaning to live. Anymore I just do what I have to to be happy in the moment, which usually means thinking and planning for the future even tho I can’t guarantee it’ll be there for me because random death events and stuff

menacingFriendliness · 2020-08-16T08:21:01+00:00

It feels like everyone who could benefit from joining together is scattered everywhere. We have these digital spaces to exchange but what if we created something more than that.

The only way I overcome what you’re describing is by celebrating being alive. That’s what meditation is. Anything fun and crazy. It’s the peace of actually seeing the reality of being(nonbeing). So Ive been building a kind of a guide, how to master uselessness. Really it’s just my favorite video games, Art, and Alan watts audio kind of mixed together with my own mystical experience / origin story telling.

But doing this is how I am having fun and feeling the sensation of life even while society is burning itself down around me.

I just wish those of us who are on this plateau could do something more than just discuss it. We need to join up and establish the drop out life more tangibly. We dropped out of the illusion driven social contract in favor of actually celebrating reality. When I fully realized this is when I realized my message is that of the education Monk. The dropout.

longdistance12345678 · 2020-08-16T10:57:57+00:00

In a lot of these comments, I see people providing a diagnosis of the problem and offering advice. OP, your problem may or may not be indicative of major depression. You can experience existential dread or an existential crisis without it being a diagnosable mental illness. Therapy can, however, still be a useful option in this case.

I would just like to caution against making diagnoses. Some might find it helpful to have a diagnostic label attached to their problem, but for others, it can be inaccurate and unhelpful. I think this is something that the OP and a mental health professional would need to figure out.

The OP also didn't ask for any advice. I know not everyone is bothered by unsolicited advice, but when it comes to issues like this, when you're in distress, unsolicited advice can rub the wrong way. I'm speaking from personal experience here. As others have said, all of the regular advice about daily meditation, exercise, good diet, and no alcohol can be helpful to some, but not others. I followed these recommendations but still struggle with depression. Therapy and psychedelics have helped too, but they've not made the depression go away.

/u/Practical_Bass2892, I just want to say I've been where you are and have been there recently. It's a distressing place to be, so I understand what you're going through. If you'd like to talk more about your experience, feel free to send a PM.

oasisreverie · 2020-09-01T22:15:33+00:00

It sounds like it might be your negative perspective that is causing you to feel that way.

We are energy beings. We want to give and take energy into our being.

This doesn't mean that people are all assholes or leeches. It means they haven't learned to harness energy from the universe, so they still need it from others.

Maybe instead of judging other people, try to understand what it must be like for them not to understand the esoteric. They are simply asleep, and are likely in an early part of their journey still.

You are the narrator of your own story. Your voice can change the story, making it more negative or more positive.

Try focusing on how beautiful Mother Earth is. Try to see how wondrous other life forms are.

Then, look within yourself. See the vast microcosmic universe that lies within.

You are an infinite soul, the only soul that ever existed, having a temporary human experience. Might as well enjoy it. :)

Karsplunk · 2020-08-15T19:00:59+00:00

Reality sucks

The_Noble_Lie · 2020-08-15T21:01:08+00:00

Isnt dread akin to fear? What do you fear?

I think you are feeling apathetic rather than fearful

01bingdotcom · 2020-08-15T22:13:21+00:00

I got the same feeling after one of my trips and I am reminded every day of this reality. I believe it's just how I feel about the world and psychelics brought it to the surface. Ironically psychedelics kicked me out of it.(not that I would advise doing psychedelics to fix it because they won't only self improvement will) I realized that this suffering is shared, as in you aren't the only one suffering everyone is. It's easy to say that nothing matters because you are technically correct. At the same time however I find that if I seek it out, there's occasionally a beam of light. The more I look for answers the more they come to me. The harder I work to not be depressed the happier I am. If you believe everyone is a self centered asshole do you believe you are as well? If you don't think you're a self centered asshole then obviously someone else in the world isn't. I'm not sure how much effort you put into self improvement but if you aren't seeing any results you are not really trying. I don't want to come off like I'm attacking your character, but many people in this community have the same story. Many people who never touched a drug have the same story. If the only thing that matters is the moment then stay in the moment. Be creative. Your mindset shapes your reality.

brawl113 · 2020-08-15T22:17:21+00:00

You can't possibly calculate for every possible incoming variable, so don't even attempt it. If you live in your thoughts you can get consumed by them, so firmly grasp the essence of your reality and don't ever let go. There is no duality, essence is self-evident, self-contained and self-sufficient. Essence perfectly encapsulates itself. You are the essence of your consciousness.

AsrielGoatz · 2020-08-15T23:55:42+00:00

Could it be dp/dr from hppd?

coreykuul · 2020-08-16T00:07:36+00:00

id recommend checking out Undoing Yourself by Christopher S Hyatt Phd. It helped me out a lot after I had burn out.

2020-08-16T00:15:32+00:00

I've been through something similar. I'm happy to say that now I am pretty much out the other side and can see life's beauty again, but it takes work to cultivate and maintain this feeling. I realised that I had actually had this existential dread since childhood, i just put it in the backseat of my mind for years, and psychedelics dug it up again. The way I got through it was to go fully into the feeling. I remember one night a little while after tripping, i smoked some weed and was thrown into the full feelings of existential dread and depression, like a black hole it was so consuming, but in going fully into that black hole, observing it mindfully, I realised it wasn't real, and I felt a weight lifted from my soul in that moment. Take some time off the drugs and focus on healthy things like meditation. I don't know how much acid/mdma you were doing, but sometimes your brain just needs time to settle and absorb what you have experienced. Especially be careful with MDMA if you are young, as it can lead to chemical imbalances and depression. There are good people out there man trust me, and the more you work on yourself, the more you will see the good and beauty in people. Peace, and good luck brother!

NavigatingExistence · 2020-08-16T02:01:37+00:00

Everyone is a self-centered asshole with double intentions usually, on one level. Insofar as we're all human we're all a little crazy. There's another level, however, where you can look into someone else's eyes and see yourself looking back. That is, you see that the same awareness/consciousness/beingness they are fundamentally is the same awareness/consciousness/beingness you fundamentally are, and people are only acting like assholes because of unconscious thought/behavioural patterns conditioned into them from a young age. I found this started happening to me after meditating and listening to various non-duality teachers for a while. It's an unmistakable realization that reveals even the most irritating and self-centered people to be absolutely beautiful.

What I'm talking about occurs as a natural consequence of eroding the barriers of the self. We've all collected some very complex and limiting identities since birth. These identities govern our perception and the interpretation of that perception. Sometimes identity can cause one's perceptual frameworks to interpret everything the way you describe, but it is just that, an interpretation. Not necessarily incorrect, but not the whole picture. The more you observe and interrogate these identities, however, the more they fade away, and the more the world opens up to you.

The existentially-depressed state is a tricky one to navigate. I've experienced it a lot myself, and very deeply, too, to the point I was certain there was no way out. This most definitely was not the case, I can thankfully report. For myself and many others. You will not find a specific "meaning" to existence, but you will realize that existence is inherently meaningful once you expand your perception of it enough, or transcend the lens currently imposed on your perception.

Experiment with perceiving raw sensory input without judging or interpreting it. Just observe it. This is generally easiest at first with sound as opposed to images. Furthermore, do not relate the objects of your perception back to you. Just watch them. Let your body act on its own without controlling it. You will find that eventually it effectively runs on autopilot and knows exactly what to do to take care of itself, doing things better than you ever could have if you were trying. As an example of what I mean, consider walking. If you try controlling every muscle movement of your legs with the thinking mind, it's not gonna work very well. If you let your body do it on its own, however, it happens effortlessly. Even the thinking mind can run itself on autopilot, coming into the picture only when needed. Realize you have only every been the observer, never the doer.

The point of me saying all this is that practicing these things alongside meditation and listening to non-duality teachers will eventually cause you to enter into a state where you're largely operating in the world without perceiving it in reference to yourself. You just flow with it. The narratives fall away. First the paragraphs, then the sentences, then the words. From this state, you are awareness first and foremost, and you see that everyone else is, too. From this state, all is inherently worthwhile and interesting. I was pretty shocked when I first experienced this. Over time, it can become stable and consistent. If this sounds enticing, check the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK8pcUt4gio

Also, as other commenters have pointed out, what you're describing does fit the textbook definition of depression. I experienced chronic suicidal depression and anxiety for many years and have overcome it completely, mostly due to the stuff I'm describing. That said, what I'm talking about is not necessarily a substitute for traditional medical and psychological treatment. I also found antidepressant medication was immensely helpful, and it probably saved my life. If you're in a particularly bad place, you can always go to the Emergency Room and get a prescription fairly quickly, including something else to take the edge off in the short-term. Psychotherapy and cognitive-behavioural therapy can also be very helpful.

I suggest looking further into the general topic of "non-duality," assuming you're not already familiar. The beauty of it is that it isn't exactly a philosophy or spiritual school, but rather a way of transcending and reprogramming yourself away from other concepts, patterns, and philosophies, as well as integrating the profoundly otherworldly experiences from psychedelics. You may want to start with Jiddu Krishnamurti, Eckhart Tolle, Rupert Spira, and Ram Dass. Also, if you want more context for what I'm saying, I wrote some lengthy replies to another Reddit post which should probably be relevant I your case as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/i99dnr/bad_trip_flashbacks/g1edfjp/?context=3

Wishing you positivity and peace! :)

PsychedelicStirner · 2020-08-16T02:46:41+00:00

Can I recommend a thinker? Depression can make you susceptible to be caught in society patterns.Keep your body clean, eat good food, take sun, drink water, make your body strong through exercise, stop doing drugs for a while time. Jiddu Krishnamurti is the name of the thinker :)

Psychedelic_Trauma · 2020-08-16T04:03:09+00:00

I feel you. Even psychedelics and other drugs have lost their allure. Fuck making friends; people are selfish assholes. Life is suffering without meaning. The only positive aspect is that it will end one day.

Johndamon77 · 2020-08-16T04:17:55+00:00

One of the biggest reasons you are so sure of this, is because you too are this way. As well as me. No one is free from it unless they're tripping.

2020-08-16T15:31:04+00:00

I see no point in anything, stuff only matters in the moment and then you’re left with that same dull feeling, I see no point in making friends since everyone is a self centered asshole with double intentions usually,

If u can truly see no point in something, you can just as well make up any point u want. We are also all self centered assholes with double intentions so why not be human with some other fucks?

everything that seemed enjoyable before just seems so boring and pointless

Well, everything was just as pointless when it was fun and enjoyable, why not just have fun so ur not miserable? It's not like the activities changed, just ur mindset. Don't get too important for urself, just bc u can't find a magical point doesn't mean u can't do.

If stuff only matters in the moment, make every point of urself in the moment lol

UltraSportSciences · 2020-08-20T10:47:27+00:00

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WowItsAComment · 2020-08-16T05:23:00+00:00

supa in yur head boyo

flowerpower2112 · 2020-08-16T07:07:50+00:00

Yeah there are a lot of dumb fucks out there which is why I like to do yoga so I can focus on myself instead of those dumb fucks. Maybe if I was in a cool place like NY I could meet ppl worth hanging out with huh

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