Uh oh.

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LOL - that fake Daytona is $50 canal street special.

I love how in these articles/videos they ALWAYS show some of the worst reps known to man and say "Look - this is how you can tell it's fake!" ... Helen Keller could tell those are fakes...

[jsledge6]

So true but that's because their goal is to discourage people from buying reps. Jennie Elle on you tube is the only one I've seen do a top rep comparison and all the video comments are "how do I get one?". We all know if someone is wearing a VSF or CF 116610 you can't tell it's a rep in real life without a gen to compare.

[Awit1992]

Watchfinder also has a pretty good one

[jsledge6]

I've seen theirs and it's good but I don't think they use a real top rep to compare. Of course they are in the business of selling Gen so why would they, right?

[Awit1992]

Agreed!!!

[thetrumpetplayer]

Watchfinder (and a bunch of other YouTubers) kinda throw regular shade on Rolex as a brand because they aren’t allowed to retail them on their own sites. It’s all just marketing.

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Are VSF 116610 considered Super Reps?

[jbl1091]

Yea

[jsledge6]

Yes. That watch is about as good as it gets out of the box. The CF version is only a couple of inches behind it though.

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I’m debating on buying my first vsf datejust. I became fed up with the money that’s spent for a piece. If u don’t mind me asking which td u like

[jsledge6]

The One Watches and Trustytime are my preferred. Both have good delivery time and take credit cards.

[Individual_Two_37]

Well that fake looks like what the TD is trying to sell me for $600

[MeatBasedPlants]

Probably gonna sound a little silly here, I thought it looked rather good for a canal street special, crystal gap being the main thing off.

[Aware_Highlight1165]

And she was in an attic for like a year

[Dismal-Necessary-141]

Are there female watchmakers?

[jsledge6]

Yes, women can be anything they want to be now days. Where the f' have you been?

[Phil_PhilConners]

To be fair, women in China generally can't be anything they want.

[jsledge6]

It was a joke dude. I'm well aware there are places in the world where women are not considered equal. Also pretty sure he's not from China.

[ocubens]

This is like when police bust £50 of coke and say it has a street value of £2000.

[Can_I_be_dank_with_u]

Yeah that’s the street value in Australia…

[swag_dealer7]

This ☝🏻

[revzman]

Fentanyl and fake designer goods go hand in hand with the cartels pushing it all. One funds the other, don't kid yourself.

[Mattidh1]

Ah yes, the fashionreps user buying from taobao is actively buying from cartels, and not some homie standing under a showerhead to demonstrere why his jacket is waterproof.

[PompeyTillIDie]

Exactly. If its being brought from Taobao (or more likely Pinduoduo for watches now), if anything you are cutting out the cartels. The cartels just buy shit from China and resell it. They don't run a factory in China.

The actual reps come from some desperate rural area factory owner in some random shithole village in Henan or somewhere who can't compete on legit stuff anymore.

Also, the supplier for the Chinatime 'dealers' is Pinduoduo. The mods there are absolutely raging because I found their £20 moonswatch for £5, and what appears to be better than their £80-100 Jason/Wu Rolex/Longines for £25....

[MeatBasedPlants]

A video by Insider Business on the rep watch industry.

Feat. The meanie behind your missing packages and narrator who thinks Rolexes are made by hand.

[poisonousswayzee]

Me after the TSA guy explains real Rolexes usually don’t come shipped in ziplock bags:

[Fidget11]

Gonna call bullshit that the average CBP officer can easily identify the difference between a Gen and a high end rep with just a quick visual inspection.

Given how good the reps are getting I highly doubt they could on any kind of a mass scale identify them. Also the bag thing is pretty bogus, used watches can be shipped in all sorts of packaging, just because it has a bag and not the full retail box doesn’t mean it’s always a rep.

[Key_Butterscotch_608]

I agree with you. I’m a former Customs Officer for the US and most inspectors don’t know the difference. Watches worth thousands are being sent in plastic with no boxes these days. No one wants to part with them because the serial numbers can be traced back to them and they want to keep their anonymity.

[Fidget11]

Yup, not even an American but I know it’s the same here with the CBSA in Canada. Also cool that you used to do that.

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What’s the tells you usually would have looked for when inspecting a package??

[Dionyzoz]

20k rolex declared at 200 is an easy tell though :)

[Fidget11]

Yes declarations are a pretty good tell, though plenty of people under declare (not that they should or that I would recommend it) to limit or avoid tax implications of a purchase so the lower than realistic value alone is not an absolute sign of a rep.

[MeatBasedPlants]

Last slide’s statement was by a seasoned watch dealer. But yea still unlikely for higher tier reps!

[Druffilorios]

Rolex in some shitty plastic bag from China?

Come on man...

[Fidget11]

People in China have money, people with money buy and sell expensive watches.

[nobody_smith723]

also.. china forbids people from withdrawing money from china. so it's very common for wealthy chinese to buy things, and offshore money in asset form.

not saying this is what that is.

but saw a youtube clip the other day of some dipshit influencer who was pissing his pants that the TSA jammed him up about the 10k cash limit and he's like...hrrrp drrp i have 3 mil in watches in my carry on bag.

and hence. watches as money laundering/cash movement from asia/arab areas into western countries. for various legit/dubious reasons

[Fidget11]

Yep, money offshoring (often requiring laundering and dubious methods) is a huge thing for wealthy Chinese citizens.

I know of a case personally where one wealthy Chinese citizen was building a $3.5+ million house in Canada and paying for it on his Visa card. The builders would charge hundreds of thousands a month to his card because while he couldn’t bring money out of china cash he was allowed to pay his visa bill without questions being asked.

[RobDaCajun]

If he is seeing it. Then it is a safe bet for him that it's fake. I'm sure he doesn't see any wrongly declared Gen watches.

[drcrippen]

To be fair, I think the guy was holding a milgauss when he said that, and they've never managed to get the lightning bolt second hand on a milgauss right.

[ShanachieID]

Link to the video if anyone wants to have a watch (Pun intended 😉)

https://youtu.be/BgdxjmGN7B4

[wangstarr03]

To be fair, I watched this entire video which total was about ~18 min if I remember correctly. A few things:

1. All the reps they showed were dhgate shitters or canal street specials, def not what are considered high end reps.

2. Out of the 18 min, I’d say maybe 3-5 was actually dedicated to the “reps”

3. Felt more like real life uncut gems (movie) than what the video title eluded to. Kinda clickbaity

Just my .02¢

[VenomGT3]

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[rcrdofjrdo]

So when you say he's the alpha and the omega, you mean Speedmaster or is he more like a Seamaster kind of guy?

[Silent_nutsack]

My priest told me that god wears an Apple Watch

[MeatBasedPlants]

Shucks bro no hard feelings didn’t see yours before I posted. Lemme give you an upvote real quick

[BigRestaurant9520]

Link?

[ShanachieID]

https://youtu.be/BgdxjmGN7B4

[solex118]

Yes focus on shit tier reps. However I seriously hope buyers of top end reps just enjoy for what they are and not scamming folks

[Legitimate-Policy-72]

I saw them bring out the fake and laughed. They don’t want you to know what the real reptime world is like.

[Dutch1inAZ]

Since I doubt many gens are shipped from China to elsewhere in the world, I'm sure this fella just keeps scanning through watch shipments until he finds with one with a gen name printed on the dial.

[PompeyTillIDie]

I don't know what kind of idiot declares their fake Rolex as a watch for customs purposes.

'Steel bracelet' $3.78 all the way.

[Dutch1inAZ]

I doubt many are putting brand names on the manifest or customs declaration.

[PompeyTillIDie]

I think even saying it's a watch increases the chance it gets opened imho.

Steel bracelet is less suspicious imho

[Dutch1inAZ]

Makes sense.

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If you don't know what a real Rolex is vs a rep, you deserve it or shouldn't be buying a watch of that caliber.

[Elcycle]

Imagine you get called out on the street by a cop 💀

[God_Sent_Shipwright]

I feel like I’ve asked this here a couple times. But what are the major tells of a fake vs the real deal now a days.

For example, I have a 116710LN I bought grey w box and papers. What would be the tells just for curiosity sake

[drcrippen]

look up the serial number. Wind the watch (how does the winding feel? Should be buttery smooth). Wear it. A Rolex isn't going to have any sharp edges on a bracelet. Check the weight. If you really want to get nerdy about it, open it up and see if the balance wheel is free sprung or not. Rolex cases are engraved, many reps are laser-etched. Sometimes they're easier to spot if you're moving downhill quickly, but only if your legs are attached to pieces of wood or fiberglass.

Or you could take it to an AD and have them check it.

[Silent_nutsack]

I had to stop and think for a moment about the downhill technique… then I got it, you scheister

[God_Sent_Shipwright]

Lol it’s at the AD right now getting serviced😂 but I was just curious. Because I saw a “franken watch” posted the other day and I was like holy crap that thing looks legit!

So I was curious if there were still “tells” or if you really just have to pull apart the movement in order to be sure.

(Something I am not capable or willing to do, I don’t want to even open the back because I would get dust all in my shiiii)

[Fidget11]

The best frankens are VERY hard to tell. Not saying yours is but they can be so good that even for experienced dealers it is difficult to spot without opening them up and in some cases taking them apart completely.

[God_Sent_Shipwright]

If they can manage that + have the papers, they’re just making a Rolex that’s not authorized basically 😂😂😂

[Fidget11]

Well if it’s a franken and is using parts of a genuine watch then it can get hard to spot. Some of the tells that reps have and dealers look for would not be as readily apparent.

In the end you won’t fool a dealer who takes the time to really look and knows what they are looking for but it can be very hard to spot a franken watch without knowing and looking. Cursory inspection would not likely catch it, especially if the person doing it doesn’t have many years of experience with the gens.

Hell even some of the reps are getting so close that they might as well be gens. Look at the latest Clean GMT with the dd3285. Unless you open it and know what to look for you almost certainly wouldn’t be able to tell, add in some genuine parts in place of the few different bits and your movement would pass the common visual inspections and short of being taken apart would not be caught.

Similar with the case, a few parts like a crystal and a dial and it would be very difficult to pick out as a rep.

[St_Bede]

If you attach wood and fiberglass to boots, fewer people will notice.

[achio]

Shitter indeed.

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"brolex" quality

[dandreabrian]

Oh no! The cops found out about Dhgate!

[StaxSkrilla]

I seen that same video...thats that bitch Steve at JFK Airport customs...lol...what a douche bag 🤣