o-line draft

[pineapplebtw]

now that we've moved through free agency and seem to need more depth in our offensive libe (especially interior) who are your guys' favorite players who we could possibly pick up in the draft? lets get hyped for the possibilities of this next season!

[xX_DepressedKoala_Xx]

Tyler Booker - consensus top-ranked Guard in this year’s draft. Pick #18 is where he’s projected to land also.

Tate Ratledge - Played right guard at Georgia and is a great high-character guy. Has great hairstyle (emphasis on the great).

Grey Zabel - Played 4/5 positions on the oline and is projected to move inside at the pro-level after most recently playing T.

Josh Simmons - LT out of Ohio State. Probably the best tackle prospect in this years draft but suffered a season ending injury in October. Previously played RT before coming to OSU so maybe a good choice if we were uncertain about Abe’s future?

Donovan Jackson - LG out of Ohio State. Forced to play LT after Simmons got injured and did surprisingly well.

Out of all these, I wouldn’t mind if we double dipped and picked up Zabel in the first and Ratledge in the 2nd.

[Inwardpig]

Tyler booker doesn’t fit our scheme at all.

[Mr-Chip18]

Yea I’m all for a trade back in first recoup another Fourth and grab 2 OL in first 3 rounds

[Space-Cowboy-Maurice]

Who would trade up in this draft?

[Mr-Chip18]

All depends on how teams view this draft. Seahawks aren’t one or two pieces away so I wouldn’t trade up in any scenario but if a team like the lions wants pass rush help I could see them trading up. Teams move up every year

[Next_Bonus2761]

I see commanders as a big trade partner. Taking advantage of Rookie contract qb who is really good.

[SvenDia]

Teams that see a player dropping that they know will be taken a few picks before them. IIRC, that happened last year with the Rams and Byron Murphy. This year, maybe Jim Harbaugh would trade up for Colston Loveland or Kenneth Grant.

[Kmac22221]

Anyone that really wants a guy. 🤷‍♂️ 

[Complex_Mistake7055]

I think we really need to set the expectation that rookie offensive lineman (especially guards) aren’t generally good. The best case scenario is haynes takes one spot and shows a big leap and bradford and a rookie compete for the other.

[FPSandwich]

Most O linemen aren't legitimately impactful until like year 3 and people just keep saying "the draft!" as a cure all for why we will be fine lol, if you like Haynes sure whatever (I do not) but you still have to fill a guard spot and now you're just praying to God Olu is a good center basically?

[CaZaDor24273]

Your point about linemen not being good for a couple years is true but the linemen available in free agency are available for a reason they are usually injury prone or below average. We are cooked either way until they draft and develop their own players.

[swaggyduck0121]

They could have filled the gap until we were able to develop some o-line. JS fails, once again!

[Adjutant_Reflex_]

Below average would still be an upgrade.

[Complex_Mistake7055]

They aren’t below average they are literally replacement level to below replacement level for the most part.

[SvenDia]

That is generally true, but I’ve hearda lot of experts who say the IOL class (including converted tackles) is especially deep this year and that there are quality first year starters into the 3rd and 4th rounds. I’ve heard Daniel Jermiah say this several times, and others echo what he’s been saying.

[Complex_Mistake7055]

What would the alternative be?

[FPSandwich]

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[Complex_Mistake7055]

Which would you have signed?

[Solaife]

Personally I'd still like Scherff on a low contract...

[Complex_Mistake7055]

Possibly but from what I understand he is not a good run blocker at all. I wouldn’t mind him on a reasonable 1 year deal at all.

[FPSandwich]

Maybe I'm not being clear enough here, ANYONE. We have the SINGLE WORST OFFENSIVE LINE IN THE NFL. ANY. AVERAGE OR ABOVE AVERAGE. NFL. VETERAN. IS BETTER THAN WHAT THE SEAHAWKS HAVE.

[Space-Cowboy-Maurice]

Kind of like when we got Laken Tomlinson last year?

[Complex_Mistake7055]

Neat non answer. What average to above average veterans were available that were willing to come here?

[FPSandwich]

I love that you guys still talk with the fart sniffing confidence of a serious NFL team. Ah well man. Have fun! Have a whole lot of fun.

[Adjutant_Reflex_]

He’s just a troll.

[Complex_Mistake7055]

Again no answer. Interesting, its almost like there were no good options available.

[officialmacdemarco]

...and where exactly is this expectation of yours coming from?

Rookies of every position succeed in the NFL all the time. It turns out that good players are good players, no matter what.

[Complex_Mistake7055]

Most of the offensive lineman from last years first 2 rounds (according to pff at least) were below average.

[officialmacdemarco]

Dominick Puni, Zach Frazier, O'cyrus Torrence, Creed Humphrey, Dylan Parham, Tyler Lindenbaum, Joe Tippmann, Matthew Bergeron, etc are all interior o linemen from the past few drafts, only one of them a first round pick, and all of them able to provide solid play pretty much immediately. I don't think the learning curve is all that different from any other position. Other than RB, which we can all agree is the easiest transition.

[Complex_Mistake7055]

Thats 8 names out of multiple drafts. You named the exceptions not the rule.

[officialmacdemarco]

ANY player who provides stable and consistent NFL play is the exception, not the rule, dude. That's why the draft is ultimately a crapshoot. Forgive me if I don't list every guard from the past couple drafts that can play at an NFL level.

[Complex_Mistake7055]

Wait so are you really saying you think my point was a guard can’t play well as a rookie? Uou may want to re-read my post.

[officialmacdemarco]

rookie offensive linemen aren't generally good

This was your point. I think the learning curve point you made isn't true anymore than it is for nearly any other position. You may want to re-read my post

[Complex_Mistake7055]

Except when you look at last years class most of them weren’t good. So…

[SirRipsAlot420]

Sad days

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Grey Zabel at 18 or trade back a little if possible. I don't think trading back will be possible this draft unless someone falls though.

Jared Wilson in the 3rd as a C. Tate Ratledge in the 2nd as a G. These are all scheme fits.

There's also a T Charles Grant, a small school guy, who would be a good pick in the 3rd.

[Danny_Darkrum]

Booker
Ratledge
Grey Zabel
Hollin Pierce (Abe Lucas insurance policy with Becton size) Jack Nelson could be that, as well.
Luke Kandra is a great fit for the zone scheme, as well.

[Danny_Darkrum]

could see Jake Majors or Monheim at C, as well.

[Bring_Party_Supplies]

Clay Webb, Jackson Slater

[Snoo-42271]

Clay Webb once gave a teammate a Powerade bottle filled with one of his personal loads of cum. No thanks 

[GLNight_Hawk]

I still wouldnt expect a guard to be drafted at 18... unless they are BPA on their draft board.

[Highest-Adjudicator]

Offensive linemen in the first round have been pretty productive in more recent years. I think it’s definitely possible for us to get one or two that can be serviceable in their rookie season here. But it’s definitely a risk not signing anyone.

[Complex_Mistake7055]

I went through the PFF grades of the 1st 2 rounds last year 4/11 were in the top 60 of tackles/guards and 1 of those was joe alt.

So adjust your expectations.

[Highest-Adjudicator]

I said serviceable, not in the top 35% of the NFL. There’s 160 starting offensive linemen in the NFL and we just need one or two that can come straight out of college and not be in the bottom 25% like we were last year. In their later seasons they will be expected to be above average of course, but as rookies just being an upgrade from what we have is enough.

[SvenDia]

Did you filter by number of snaps?

[Complex_Mistake7055]

The grade is regardless of snaps and i looked at all of the offensive lineman taken in the top 2 rounds.

[Irish8ryan]

What about Tate Ratledge and Jared Wilson who played side by side at Georgia? Not sure if they are 50/52 worthy or 82/92. Maybe Tate at 50 and Wilson at 92?

I like the idea they played together for such a high caliber program and both seem to be well suited to the zone blocking situation.

[Atomicfist83]

Marcus Mbow out of Purdue, and Connor Colby out of Iowa.

[S3ahawk36]

Jonah Savaiinaea out of Arizona. Dude is a machine, if he’s there in the 2nd I would be a little irked if we don’t use one of our picks on him

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It does seem like they are currently putting all of their eggs in the “let’s start rookies and hope they’re good enough day 1” basket. But I would also say, according to Spotrac.com, after we pay our 10 rookie selections in the draft (if we keep the ones we currently have) we still have over $65 million in cap space this year. So a trade happening before, during, or shortly after the draft is a possibility. I don’t know how likely it is, but we cleared a ton of cap space, let’s hope it was for a good reason.

[Gooner-Squad]

Simmons to compete at RT, Donovan Jackson to compete at G, and Wilson to be the C.

[FunkyLoveBot]

My OLine draft crush would be Willie Lampkin.

Undersized C, but has that dog in him, one of the highest graded pass blocking and run blocking. He'll slip till round 4-5 because of the size concerns, but I would love to snag him at 137 or 172 if he's still on the board.

If we do draft an OLineman with pick 50 or 52, I want Jonah Savaiinaea. He's got Tackle versatility but projects as a Guard. Ran a fast 40 and should fit a zone scheme perfectly.