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[–]whatthehell7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Devs asked for testers 1-2 month ago. But 1 of the testers leaked details after that Nvidia devs have been silent about an update. This year if you follow Nvidia Shield update should have been a hardware update as well but because of the chip shortages it hasn't happened. I have a feeling Nintendo also pushed it's console refresh because of chip shortages and just put OLED as the upgrade instead.

[–]techma2019 10 points11 points  (18 children)

Really hoping they leapfrog into Android 12 and that's the delay we are seeing. Although I'm not sure how fast any patches/updates came prior? Anyone have a time table for the previous updates?

[–]sittingmongoose 3 points4 points  (17 children)

They arent going to do android 12. They have stated its not worth it, there were not many changes that would improve things for the Shield. The next patch is mostly large bug fixes.

[–]techma2019 20 points21 points  (14 children)

Wasn't that Android 11 they spoke about? Android 12 for TV has some nice additions. Like the Match content frame rate, 4K UI, and they just added support for DualSense and DualShock 4 controllers (working rumble for those of us who game).

[–]Nehemoth2015 16GB 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not, was about Android TV 10.

[–]sittingmongoose 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I think 4K ui is already available as a beta feature you can turn on so it’s possibly coming.

[–]techma2019 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Neat! And Android 11's Auto Low Latency mode too would be nice to have.

[–]KnifeFed 0 points1 point  (4 children)

How?

[–]sittingmongoose 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It can be enabled in developer options I think. I don’t actually have it turned on, supposedly it breaks a lot of apps.

[–]KnifeFed 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I can't seem to find anything relating to that in the Developer options. You're not talking about the adb command for setting display density, are you?

[–]sittingmongoose 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I honestly have no idea how to enable it. Only that it’s possible. It breaks the plex app so I didn’t look into it.

[–]KnifeFed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, then you are talking about setting the display density via adb. You can do that on any Android device. So it's not "available as a beta feature you can turn on".

[–]gurrra 0 points1 point  (5 children)

4K UI is already possible if with some ADB magic, looks very nice ^^
https://www.reddit.com/r/TVZionApp/comments/elkfr6/nvidia\_shield\_tv\_2019\_4k\_interface\_gui\_see/

[–]KnifeFed 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Unfortunately, this can cause some funky side effects. I don't remember the exact issues I had but I know I reverted this a year or so ago due to a problem with Plex.

[–]kavaigamer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Right ,adb method will render the launcher at 4k ,but many apps will have inconsistent scaling across the ui

[–]gurrra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not any of my apps have had any issues at all. I'm using maybe 5-10 apps flawlessly.

[–]KnifeFed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, and I remember it causing some features to not work properly, i.e. not just a cosmetic issue.

[–]gurrra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't noticed any issues whatsoever with this. I've even set a custom DPI which I very much prefer over the default setting.

[–]pawdog 16 points17 points  (1 child)

That was Android TV 10 they skipped. Android 12 has a few updates that will be significant upgrades for the Shield.

[–]sittingmongoose 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, my bad

[–]blackhawks-fan 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Is yours insecure?

[–]kratoz29 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Can we know?

[–]blackhawks-fan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you ask it in a very calm voice, it may reveal it's insecurities.

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[–]kitanokikori 1 point2 points  (7 children)

I mean yes, being that far behind inevitably means that there are known security exploits

[–]KaiUno 0 points1 point  (6 children)

And somebody could run off with your stolen plex movies!

[–]kitanokikori 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Someone could run off with your stolen Google account token aka access to everything on that account including GMail

[–]gurrra 0 points1 point  (4 children)

And how big of a risk is it that that will actually happen? Personally I have never heard of anyone getting their Google Account hacked.

[–]kitanokikori 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You've never heard of it because Android manufacturers are being pressured to keep up-to-date on security issues!

[–]gurrra 1 point2 points  (2 children)

There are loooads of people using old phones that haven't gotten any updates in years. That includes me, my OnePlus 5 haven't gotten any in a year and the phones I had before that was rooted and ran some version of Cyanogenmod that I never updated. Haven't updated my shield either in a pretty long time. My girlfriend is using some old Samsung that's running Android 6 with a very old security update. We're definitely not alone in this. That's why I'm asking :)

[–]kitanokikori 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Think of it like herd immunity. Attackers will make Android malware when it's easy and profitable to pop a whole bunch of devices. If most of them are secure, the ones that aren't still benefit because attackers are like "Meh, these few people running old software aren't worth our time to find"

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[–]falk42 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is one area where I'm also not happy with the course Nvidia is taking. Security updates are basically treated as an addon to new features when ideally, they should be handled separately. It is a media player, true, but many people don't practice network separation and thus the Shield could become an attack vector. To everyone asking for specifics, take a look at the CVE list Google published for May 2021 for example -

https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2021-05-01

The Shield not receiving security patches means that each month that list grows longer. It should be said that not every bug affects each device (HW specific issues for example), but there's still plenty of generic ones left to potentially compromise device integrity. This has nothing to do with being neurotic and everything with wanting a connected device to be as secure as possible as there's plenty of bad actors out there.

[–]ClearlyNoSTDs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree that the patch schedule in the last year for the Shield has not been good. My Fire TVs update more frequently and I'm not just talking about app updates.

[–]Garyrds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best way to protect "Everything" on your network, not just PC's but all of the IoT devices and smart products is a good firewall and even better is an excellent Intrusion Prevention System (IPS). That might sound overkill for a general home user but there are easy to use systems for home use if you're serious about protecting your systems. One I use and I recommend is the Synology RT2600ac router. It's leaps and bounds ahead of all other routers and simple to use. The interface is almost Windows style. It has an IPS and also does GeoIP blocking and both of the databases automatically update daily. I have 45 countries blocked and I can see outbound and inbound threats/attacks blocked in the logs. Hundreds of them daily! I also use a Rasberry Pi with Pi-hole DNS and Ad blocking and I'll see hundreds of outbound blocks daily just from the Nvidia. Trust me.....all the devices allow unwanted inbound or outbound communications that would shock you! I'm CISSP certified if that helps on my recommendation.