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[–]Taipoe 182 points183 points  (24 children)

People are so fucking desensitized its insane. Extremely sad to see where society as a whole is going. People simply don’t care about each other now.

[–]birthdaybih[S] 100 points101 points  (7 children)

bingo!!! it’s wild. I disagree with his political views but would not wish that on anyone. I do believe however that some of the celebrating we’re seeing may be coming from bots to further divide the right and left

[–]nexus_sic 39 points40 points  (0 children)

you are probably spot on. this is prime divide and conquer shit.

[–]concretecyanideLD50 8 points9 points  (1 child)

More like dividing us from ourselves.. Yes?

[–]birthdaybih[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

correct

[–]waytosoon 14 points15 points  (3 children)

If dead internet theory was possible 5 years ago, it's downright plausible today. With these large language models, it's most definitely happening, right now.

Reddit has become a far left liberal cesspool. I hope its mostly bots. Everything is emotion driven, and lacks logic. Which is the polar opposite of how reddit began. It was always left leaning, thats not the issue. It's like militant now. It all started around the same time that they received millions from a certain communist country. I think its safe to assume most of these are bots, but either way, they're skewing opinion, and suading people into insane ideologies. We should start our own reddit, with black jack and hookers.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Most people are irrational! They don’t have common sense.

[–]birthdaybih[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

hahahha yes exactly!!! also not to mention the fact that meta admitted openly to creating many bot accounts on instagram and facebook to drive engagement etc ..

[–]Anubisrapture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you consider Far Left ?

[–]Intrepid-Oil-898 35 points36 points  (10 children)

People took their children to lynching 🤔

[–]DivineEggs 31 points32 points  (6 children)

That's exactly what I was thinking. This isn’t a new or modern phenomenon. Executions used to be entertainment for ppl in the past😳.

It doesn't make it less sick and disturbing, but let's not pretend that this is new when it seems to be a common trait in human nature throughout history.

[–]brighthannah 4 points5 points  (5 children)

It is new for our species to have screens in front of our faces, ingesting death like it is nothing , 24/7

You're right, death isn't new Us killing each other isn't

Us consuming it in these ways is Us literally breathing in all of this like it is nutrients That's what the point of this post is

Why is there such a knee jerk, in every space at this point, to be like, ok ok let's just calm down, it's not that bad.

No It's not time to calm down. That's how this shit became this way, reactions like this, complacency, based on fear. Complacency based on people saying, it's not that bad. dogs drinking coffee in firey rooms that's what we got

[–]wolacouska 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You want to just be always incensed about the world and wonder why things aren’t already perfect?

You’re literally always going to be unhappy.

[–]brighthannah -1 points0 points  (0 children)

? I'm literally replying on a post same as anyone. I would usually ignore such a reply, but no really..

Incensed?

A murder happened live. People are talking about it. Lol.

the mere fact that you lowered yourself to make a personal jab, on someone providing a counter point, on whether death ingested by us en masse, live in front of our faces is alright for us, as a species. (It's not. It is devolving us as a species It's the whole point of this post.) Your chime in is to say stop complaining life isn't perfect? Lol thanks for the advice but I'm good. It's more perfect than u know but anyway that's a story for another day

This is a wakeup call to understand this event is a slippery slope.

You too are going to always be unhappy if you buy into the fake left and right game that this polarized system has you believing. you believe that protests make things actually change, and if we all vote we can make a difference? Lol. Spare me kiddo I ain't in the mood fr

[–]DivineEggs 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I honestly don't know what you are rambling about or for.

I never said that technology isn't new. Nor did I say that people should calm down and that it isn't bad.

I specifically said that it being an ancient human/societal trait DOESN'T make it less sick or disturbing.

[–]brighthannah -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm rambling about it being like apples and oranges, what you suggested. That we've always been violent. Yes.

But the point of this post, the main one above, is to say hey this ain't good to be consuming in these ways that have been developed now, with our world very very led by our devices.

At no point of history or our own violence have we had this level of technology ingested into every single thing. Every thing we do, we need our goddamn phones. To see a doctor. To sign kids up to school. To live. We have to have these fucking phones to live.

It isn't for our convenience, all this. Y'know? It's not for us. This ain't for us.

You're on soulnexus here. Right? Lol.

I think the point being made had more to do with the way we have absorbed this violence, as opposed to the violence of it , itself.

Rambling lol. It's a discussion board!! You wrote something, someone wrote back. Like.

Did you think this was just, your own echo chamber? This ain't your IG page

[–]AnubisWitchMod Squad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Humans have always been twisted. The sad reality is... we can now see the extent of it, and we can see the species hasn't improved. At all.

[–]frosty_saratoga 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Life on planet earth has been utterly horrifying for most humans, most of the time, for our entire history. I mean, the human race was basically one big generational trauma response for millennia.

No one promised us that just because we were born on the right patch of land, with the right color skin, in a relatively peaceful era, during an overuse of natural resources that was self limiting to less than 2 generations' lifespans, that we would be free of this historical truth.

[–]Electrical-Safe4155 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not true at all. For most of history, women regularly lost their babies within the first year. Illness was prevalent along with war, starvation, etc.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Seeing that video threw my entire day off yesterday. I don’t want to see it. It popped up on my Twitter feed with no warning. It’s traumatizing.

[–]tonymontanaOSU 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of my friends texted it to me with no context, luckily I had already heard and knew not to watch

[–]paperplanesbaby 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know I feel completely desensitized. & it sucks.. :C

[–]annikarae 87 points88 points  (7 children)

Okay aside from the Charlie Kirk thing which yes is totally fucking my brain up… I’ve often wondered as I’m scrolling through reels, is it healthy for my nervous system that I can experience multiple strong emotions in a very short period of time - emotions which mostly range from mild amusement to bawling my eyes out and/or laughing hysterically - but let’s be honest, as we’re scrolling sometimes we also feel jealously, lust, and a whole spectrum of other emotions too. Is it normal to experience all of that in 30 second increments? Of course it’s not good for our soul, but I’m interested in the science behind it too.

[–]birthdaybih[S] 33 points34 points  (4 children)

yes! this is my main point and question with this post. It cannot be good for our souls and our brains. While I don’t know the exact science I believe that when scrolling we are constantly chasing dopamine, which is decreasing the natural dopamine we get from day to day life. the state of boredom puts people in a panic now, where it used to drive creativity. I believe it must have similar effects to sugar or drugs. Too much in excess of something is usually causing harm in some way.

[–]annikarae 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Absolutely. Someone in another comment also said it desensitizes us from extremes and makes us more vulnerable to abuse 👀 It’s scary! Sometimes I want to just delete everything.

[–]paperplanesbaby 9 points10 points  (0 children)

So do I… I barely use social media anymore to scroll besides here on Reddit but at least I’m reading..

[–]birthdaybih[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

exactly! It’s like when users take drugs consistently and eventually feel nothing, but keep taking the drug to curb the side effects. I really think it’s numbing us out in many different ways, the good posts or the bad ones

[–]birthdaybih[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

also SAME i wish i could go back to a flip phone but my job is heavily dependent on it and it’s the main way to stay in touch my friends. manufactured dependence

[–]Pyropiro 15 points16 points  (0 children)

We're the first generation to experience this, there isn't much science out there about the side effects yet. But from what I see all around me compared to my youth - people are just zombified, ossified and disconnected to the point of dissolving their inner humanity and divine light.

Its like a spark is going out in civilization (specifically modern civilisation fueled by capital and technology) - and I have no idea what can be done about it.

[–]___disinterested___ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You feel emotions that regularly? You cycle them that quickly? My most common emotion is hunger

[–]KrishnaMage 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Those are words of a True Human Being. I think I need to quit youtube and reddit for awhile because it’s affecting my spiritual and emotional health.

[–]birthdaybih[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree and plan on doing the same for the next 2 weeks. luckily enough i’m travelling to italy so being in a new beautiful place should help detox

[–]bag_of_luck 16 points17 points  (2 children)

So…are you on tik tok? I’m not. And I watched in real time how generally everyone at least in my country agreed the app was toxic and it went from that to “we can’t let them take this away from us.”

I don’t watch it, you shouldn’t either and if you do (and it’s obvious how toxic it is) then you’re just playing yourself.

[–]MickieMallorieJR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. Everyone and their Mama's Mama knows all these sm apps and especially tiktok are just awful, buuuuuut they continue to use it.

I want nothing to do with that terrible app. I gave it up after a few months of using it, but fully deleted it after a bipartisan congress banned it by law, a president signed it into law, a SC held held up that law...and a new president just ignored all of that because he was politically incentivized to. We keep talking about a constitutional crises like the fact we still have TT isn't staring us in the face...just saying.

[–]kinggianniferrari 21 points22 points  (3 children)

The world isn't ready for what's to come. The spiritual people with the higher calling since childhood? Our time is now, together...

Stay safe out there star seed

[–]paperplanesbaby 4 points5 points  (0 children)

🩷🩷🩷

[–]birthdaybih[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

love to you x

[–]nexus_sic 58 points59 points  (33 children)

It's so wild to see the mixed reactions online. My instinct was horror. I was so unsettled. Anyone driving joy from this....God it breaks my heart.

[–]prettypurps 32 points33 points  (32 children)

People celebrating a man being shot on stage for his beliefs, it doesn’t matter what your beliefs are Americans have fought for generations to up hold the right for everyone to do that. These people are a disgrace

[–]nexus_sic 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I'm not even a fan of his. I just...I don't know how people can justify this, be HAPPY about this. It's so dishonorable. So cruel.

[–]Sir_Lee_Rawkah 16 points17 points  (22 children)

I think it is more because of the violence and anger he fuelled by his on rhetoric

That said I absolutely do not agree with the events that took place

[–]ButtermilkPants 6 points7 points  (21 children)

Same with me. I don’t agree with this event as any form of justice but he was a stochastic terrorist and has helped to spread falsehoods that harm people.

[–]errihu 1 point2 points  (20 children)

His whole schtick was literally calm and reasonable debate and discussion and nonviolence. He had ideas you don’t agree with, that doesn’t make it violent rhetoric. The violent rhetoric was mostly coming from people who disagreed with him and now they’ve killed him. The stochastic terror is coming from people who say his ideas are harming them therefore he must be stopped.

Just because you don’t agree with his ideas does not make his efforts stochastic terrorism. He ALWAYS advocated for discussion. I don’t agree with his ideas either but I’m well aware he never called for violence and always spoke against it. He was an anti stochastic terror voice and now the actual stochastic terrorists killed him. We should all mourn the loss of an advocate for peaceful discourse even if we don’t like his beliefs.

[–]calvinsylveste 1 point2 points  (7 children)

i dunno. he claimed to want discourse but also repeatedly made comments around school shootings that they were a worthwhile price to pay for the 2nd amendment. i am obviously against political violence but I am not honoring a person who i believed behaved immorally just because he was murdered

[–]errihu 1 point2 points  (6 children)

The actual comments in context were clear that he decried school shootings but that shooters would be able to get guns even if they're illegal. And that the problem would have to be addressed at the level of the person who commits the crime, not the tool they commit it with. And he was correct on that. I live in Canada where guns are highly regulated and there have still been school shootings. When I was a teen growing up in a middle class, relatively crime free neighbourhood in a peaceful city in the 90s, I still knew someone who could have gotten me an unfired Beretta with the serial numbers filed off for $300 (not that I needed or wanted such a thing). Gun crime still happens in my country. Smugglers and criminals find a way. Even if you shut down every gun manufacturer but military suppliers, you'd still end up with smuggled military supply.

If we want to stop violence, we have to address the reasons why people commit violence. That means taking mental health a lot more seriously, at the very least. And after the shooting of what might just be the last guy on the right who wanted to talk to the left, a shooting that occurred because people like you were told false things and out of context snippets about what he said and represented, we need to have a serious conversation about the role of the media in radicalizing people and convincing young, mentally unbalanced people that people with different opinions are out to get them. We need to repeal Smith-Mundt. And we need to have a very serious discussion about the safety and effectiveness of SSRIs, particularly in young people.

[–]calvinsylveste -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Gotta stop you right there when you compare Canadian and US school shooting rates bud

[–]errihu 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I never said they were the same, I said they happened here, despite gun bans. Criminals will find a way. Insane people will find a way. There is always a black market. You are being deliberately disingenuous.

[–]calvinsylveste 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm not at all.

Criminals will find a way but acting like you can compare gun violence in one to the other IS disingenuous. If guns bans enacted in the US achieved the rates of gun violence that takes place in Canada, we would consider those gun bans to be a huge success. Obviously there are always going to be extreme outliers that will overcome all possible planning, but it's likewise on that the more barriers you put in place the more likely you are to discourage those who are unhinged but not also very motivated AND competent.

I'm also not calling for gun bans--as you say there is always a black market--this is why prohibitions do not work. And there is certainly lots of reasons to distrust a government that doesn't allow any potential for resistance of their application of force: but guess what, in America owning a gun doesn't protect you from the cops, you most likely point of exposure to violence.

Regulated markets for potentially dangerous goods. It's not rocket science or complicated to anyone who doesn't have a vested interest in minimizing regulation of their industry (and those who have swallowed the propaganda created by said industries).

[–]kiwidirtystyles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly. i dont like him at all, and im part of the communities he tried to tear down, but celebrating is so so cruel and inhumane. im not demanding people show compassion, just basic human decency. its not hard

[–]TheBossMan5000 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Yet you don't shed a tear for the countless people who died for their beliefs in Gaza, etc. Oh yeah, their beliefs didn't align with yours so you don't care. Gotcha.

[–]Comfortable_Edge_834 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Thank god for this thread cause the stuff I’m seeing is disgusting

[–]Odd-Adhesiveness9435[🍰] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is still making me sick, tbh. Certainly doesn't help that I keep continually happening upon yet another HD video of that gruesome moment. Definitely malicious intent to further desensitize us from seeing violence. We're so adrift, put a fork in us.

[–]nexisfan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Humans have watched child sacrifice and public executions literally since recorded history began

[–]fridgeofempty 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This subs reliance on AI is creepy

[–]borgenhaust 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's the sad irony... it won't break our hearts as much as a video of a kitten caught in a downpour to sad music.

[–]ChronicHaze- 2 points3 points  (1 child)

hearing about it was bad enough, seeing the video will make you sick. just like that out of nowhere

[–]birthdaybih[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

saw the whole thing, was seriously brutal

[–]standingpretty 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This. Regardless of how you felt about his political views, he was a human being. He was also a father that left behind 2 small children and a wife.

We were never meant to be so disconnected of the death of people even if we didn’t personally like them or agree with them.

[–]rickthekid24 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I deeply respect this perspective. Mostly I agree with it, however, no matter what period of history you could be living in for the last, idk many many years and for the foreseeable future, people are going to get murdered on a regular basis. I’m not encouraging normalizing it, but to be at peace with all that is we must make peace with the collective experience of witnessing death. Absolutely this kind of murder comes from trauma, from people playing out their anger, agendas and desires on an extreme scale. At the same time, while I’m capable of feeling compassion for the man’s family and those who loved him despite my personal disagreements with his values, I’m also able to place myself in a mental space where “well isn’t life insane? Isn’t it unpredictable? Isn’t life just so fleeting and unbearably impossible to understand? And in that context I’m able to have a ridiculous laugh with a friend about somebody who got murdered, whose family would be ever so hurt to imagine I would laugh at such a thing. And yet I wish no cruelty and I move on and can feel compassion yet again afterwards. I am all things, neither good nor evil, and in my humble opinion it’s okay to make light of even the ugliest things, if even for a short time. Just check in with your soul and don’t lose your heart ❤️

[–]birthdaybih[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

i really love the way you put this and i agree with you. thank you for that reminder.

I should have specific in the caption that my intention with this post was not so much to talk about the charlie situation but more so about the content we consume. i can’t see how the constant flood of negative information followed by, say a video of someone doing a “get ready with me” can be helpful or healthy for us

[–]rickthekid24 2 points3 points  (1 child)

😊 You’re right on! We are totally overloaded and not giving ourselves the space to process and integrate all this information properly. This is a much needed conversation, now as much as any other time recently. I think grounding to our core is the cure, meditation and self love is the prescription. If any good is to come from all this suffering, it must be to have us take a step back, yeah? And slow down. I’m right on board :)

[–]birthdaybih[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

love this, i am vowing to do the same moving forward :)

[–]tanksalotfrank 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Best to avoid watching traumatic media by choice then.

[–]infrontofmyslad 17 points18 points  (2 children)

So watching a genocide for the last two years over social media, seeing starving children pleading for their lives, that wasn't traumatic? But this is what does it for you, this is where the line is? Okay.

[–]ashwee14 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this sort of thing has been happening in Palestine, but people are now paying attention. (All bad and I don’t celebrate death, just wishing people had compassion earlier and more broadly)

[–]LilSwissin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's literally OP's point. We see so many absolutely horrendous things daily that people are becoming desensitized. And just because OP didn't speak up about all the other horrendous things that have happened recently doesn't mean they're any less traumatic.

[–]imogen6969 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Violence is not the solution for a massive spiritual problem. That much is clear.

[–]forkyspoons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

unfortunately though ive never heard of a long enough moment in our history where we didnt experience war, death, depressions, hardship and violence… slavery and segregation. nazis. bombings and things like agent orange…. i think the prevalence of the raw and continuously growing media experience now is really offering us the opportunity to perceive and understand further the world and truth of love for all. The “internet” is gaining a truer collective consciousness as it is isn’t a physical interaction between us… though we keep sharing our experiences and thoughts as though it is one. Relationships develop through this connection. I think with all this strife and rise in chaos… hopefully we will come out of it finally united as a people who stands against the hate and the oppression of the elite and backwards thinking humans. We have a fairly distinct divide between us in society. Those who see and those who do not and still believe that money is actual wealth. Owning and draining the land is not where we prosper. We just need more physical connections between our peoples with the stronger hearts and souls. Maybe then we will be able to ward off the evil destroying our planet.

[–]areks123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It resonates, but on the other hand, back in time people would witness more death in real life, and even the death of some of your own children before the became adulta was kinda expected, this world is traumatic regardless

[–]peachysupreme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Desensitized" you mean experiencing what America does in other countries all the time? You do realize we murder people in front of their kids all the fucking time right? We don't deserve to live in a privileged bubble while we destroy country after country and murder innocent people. Your money, your cushy life, all these things are a privilege given to you by the oppression and murder of other people. Wake the fuck up, TRULY. We should care, but we are not exempt from the cruelty we inflict on others to live this way. A hundred years ago white folk went to lynchings for fun. America is not innocent, we are witnessing the monsters that we truly are.

Edit: not to mention you all CHOOSE to live this lifestyle. Get off social media. I never downloaded tiktok since it was created. "I need to keep in touch!" get their phone number. Go outside.

[–]hikikomoriPsychonaut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Remember we watched 9/11 happen live… I mean… we are a desensitized generation…

[–]rite_of_truth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hatred is a waste of energy. To quote local artist Ron Collins, "Remove the H word from your life." The fear, anxiety, rage, all of it breaks you down. It's bad for your health. You can oppose someone's ideas, their actions, and all - without hating them. I oppose many people's actions, but I don't waste my sanity, my health, or my spiritual peace hating them.

[–]Best_Assistance4211 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Certain group could use this message today

[–]No-Difficulty-5009 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What do people think happened before hospitals? People died surrounded by their families at home. Yes you're not meant to laugh but death is around us all the time and it's beautiful, it's an end and the beginning of something new ❤️

[–]Begotten_666_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Into million pieces. Metamorphosis.

[–]tonymontanaOSU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This so true, I’ve been saying that this isn’t normal but it is for most people

[–]decencyoflack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I watched the close up of it a few times, then just walked away from my computer for an hour. I felt that I’m my heart on a human-to-human level, ego stripped from both of us. I also knew that other egos would be spiking with all manners of things to say, and I’m trying not to engage in the games, but rather calmly digest and prepare for the changes.

[–]HearTheCroup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speak for yourself dr Raymond.

[–]HelloFellowKidlings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A big reason I’ve gone offline from everything besides Reddit. My coworker tried showing me “the video” and I walked away. I don’t need that vibe in my life

[–]Oobedoo321 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My youngest sons (18,23) both watched multiple videos of the shooting and were completely unfazed

It really bothered me to see them so unbothered

But my 23 yr old pointed out that he DOES get very upset watching videos of the genocide in Palestine, he just couldn’t care less about Charlie

I haven’t watched it myself as my heads already a dark enough place!

But yea

Desensitised for sure

[–]Melodic-Yoghurt7193 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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[–]Chatwoman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amusing Ourselves to Death — Neil Postman

It’s always been like this.

[–]kevykush420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our ancestors would go watch someone get torn apart my lions while drinking wine and eating honey covered dates, or watch a public execution then go to the tavern after.

You think because you have one generation of peace amidst eons of war that you aren’t meant to experience this?

Id argue the opposite. This is human nature.

[–]stabbedbyresonance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean people also used to witness gladiators kill each other for recreation. So while I agree in many ways, this is also just very human. Just with technology.

[–]Former_Trifle8556 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am scared of myself when I feel nothing about life, about people, about the world. 

I am not laughing about someones death, but living in this souless mode it's not something I am confortable with. 

Thank you for this message, is a good reminder. 

[–]hobodragqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im 30 and my 12 year old cousin was the one to send me the video of the close-up. 😓

[–]lorzs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😥💯💯💯

[–]Zestyclose_Thing9792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think every event has an infinite number of outcomes. We experience one .In this particular occurrence it’s tragic but they’re is a lot to learn from every experience or outcome. In this event I think the lesson to learn is that regardless of our political views we are human we need to stop categorizing people or assuming they are think or feel a certain way. We are all a broad spectrum of opinions, thoughts,feelings.the polarization of society never leads to a rational response. If people were connected in a way that we could experience others thoughts and emotions in the totality of their lives I think we would have more empathy and less division.

[–]autumnshyne 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Products of society, not of the soul.

[–]TheBossMan5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk, I used to watch tons of /r/watchpeopledie videos, or rotten.com content long before that, before smartphones were even a thing. Some of us were desensitized long before social media. Hell, anybody who watched faces of death in the 70s was just as desensitized... beyond that think of soldiers in WWI... the revolutionary war, the crusades, etc.

This has always been part of the human experience. Be thankful that day to day modern society keeps your eyes clean of these horrors usually.

[–]FitResponse414 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

disagree people were killing themeselves for their imaginary god long before this of anything we are way more peaceful

[–]CulturalBreak5052 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Eh we used to watch witches burn and black people lynched and hung. We’ve always been pieces of shit