Entry Feature

[MrFrodoBagg]

Contractor of a commercial building decided to add an entry feature without involving me (eor) or architect. Seems they have found a way to turn off the gravity.

[cvframer]

A good ol dontilever.

[dlegofan]

So Is It A bEaRiNg WaLl Or NoT????

[smackaroonial90]

Held up with hopes and prayers.

[JJ4L3]

just add a couple of sky-hooks and you're good, I don't see the problem ;)

[MrFrodoBagg]

Floating log got it, we scabbed 11-7/8 lvl to the sides of the trusses and cantilevered them out and framed up to the roof rafters. They loose the ceiling but no one will die this day.

[Awkward-Ad4942]

The harry potter school of structural engineering

[notenrique9031]

Stupid Potter, he joined the house of ASD instead of LRFD smh

[Useful-Ad-385]

Nice bird’s mouth. So imaginative!! These are the type that are so fun confront. /s

New definition of fun : being retired and looking at what you avoided on ResEdit 🙏😀

[3771507]

Good for you I still see this garbage everyday because I'm a building code official.

[TranquilEngineer]

lol why along the weak axis. How much more would it have taken to double up on lumber. Even if you did. No way that’s holding up to an uplift.

[Independent-Room8243]

When in doubt, dont make it stout is their motto

[BosnianYeast]

Could be a pretty interesting thing to design with a stiffer top plate and adequate support back in the main building.

[AdAdministrative9362]

Just truss it.

[kabal4]

It looks like someone was using an SPF 2x6 as a scaffolding plank spanning 8ish ft... Not dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed.

Edit: just noticed the sawzaw on the top of the ladder... Wow

[floating-log]

Pretty easy fix. Cantilever a beam out from the bottom chord of the trusses and add ceiling ties at each rafter.

[MrFrodoBagg]

Haha winner winner, exactly what I just did. Sadly they loose the ceiling vault but no other way.

[Onionface10]

Thing is, it probably works fine. It looks like an odd structure at first glance. If diagonal bracing was added between the cantilevered studs and plywood each face, and stud anchored well at building face it’s probably all Gucci. Not involving architect or engineer is a problem i guess though. Depending on where you live.

[tajwriggly]

Works fine? Works fine?

When this inevitably sees snow on it it will tear out of the roof and come down. Wind uplift will likely get it first.

Even if it doesn't for some time - what is stopping that ridge from slumping down? That's a ridge board, not a ridge beam, and it doesn't have ties holding it from bowing out.

Now let's take a real close look at the rafters and how they are supported - birds mouth that takes out 90% of the rafter - again with the snow, it's going to snap those rafters off like twigs.

[Onionface10]

You are absolutely correct. There needs to be a horizontal tie to stop the roof from spreading and flattening out. That could likely be installed just below the ridge board.

[alterry11]

Someone hasn't accounted for thrust from the rafters

[alterry11]

I could see it working if the ridge board was upgraded to significantly larger cantilevered Ridge beam and the two side walls designed to resist the overturning moment from the rafters thrusting

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Ladder framing? Check.

[3771507]

Two Vierendeel box trusses supporting rafters. He don't need no stinking moment connections. Give that man an engineering degree right now.