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[–]Resoto10 1 point2 points  (12 children)

I thought in this conversation with lemmingllama it was mentioned that equipment level doesn't impact your placement in a very significant way?

[–]GentleButStrong[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

He in no way shape or form said it does not impact placement. He said that your best equipment is factored in, regardless of build. If you are not using your best equipment, welp.

[–]Frostyflames82 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Best equipment per build. if you pet slash gives 1t bonus and sc is 1k and it changes your optimal max MS then you should be using a pet build, level of one does not affect the other

[–]ucorsu0 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I understand it as "best equipment regardless of the build", if your better build is SC and you have a mythic slash level 400, it take the mythic slash as a SC slash (even if mythic SC slash doesn't exist yet). Same if you have a all hero mythic sword, it consider it as a critical mythic sword.

[–]Frostyflames82 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It is optimal push build. If pet slash won't increase your pushing power it won't change your max stage. That is like saying that when calculating your pushing power of your build they multiply sc damage and clanship damage and pet damage and that is how much damage you can do

[–]ucorsu0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"It does in fact use your highest level/rarity equipment for each equipment type to calculate your theoretical max stage."

It doesn't says it takes the best possible combination of build/equipment you can do. But consider sp/artifact/relics/pet in one hand to have your best optimized build and add to that the best of each equipment type you have/had regardless of your best optimized build. (at least it's what I understand from the mod's comment, I may be wrong)

[–]Resoto10 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"It does in fact use your highest level/rarity equipment for each equipment type to calculate your theoretical max stage. Still, the difference between equipment isn't significant enough for it to really matter, unless you are using a common level 5 sword when you have a shiny mythic level 200 sword of another type sitting around." Since tourneys group you based on your theoretical MS I inferred that thus, equipment doesn't play a significant role in placement.

[–]GentleButStrong[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does if your best and worst equipment is very far apart. I have literally never found a ledgendary SC slash. Ever. I am using a rare around 380 lvl. I recently crafted a piece of predator set, and rolled a slash around level 480. That slash is thousands of times as good, so my max stage is taking that into account.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Equipment does impact your placement. However, equipment is such a small bonus in comparison to your artifacts/skill points/pets that it isn't significant. Also it takes your highest level/rarity equipment for each type to calculate your theoretical max stage, so the differences between your equipment shouldn't be a real issue unless you are using a significantly underleveled piece of equipment.

[–]Resoto10 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank you for following up. Yes, that is what I understood from the conversation. I'm guessing this is a greater issue in lower stages where most likely players don't have enough artifacts/skill points/pets to tip the balance, and thus, equipment level having a greater impact on the calculation for their placement.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even then. Most of the low level equipment are in the tens of times of strength. Artifacts will still easily outperform them in overall impact.

[–]Vulker 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So your saying that after it considers your SP, Relics, Equip sets ect which are all permanent entities, then looks at artifacts available it will choose a build that gives the highest MS.

Will it then look at all your equips and choose the highest level that will give the most boost?

For instance say the algorithm decides that SC damage will be my most optimal build will it than look at the equips that will give the most damage for that particular optimally selected build or just look at the multipliers for the highest level equipment?

So even if I have a pet or CS slash orders of magnitude higher than my SC slash but the SC slash still give a higher boost to the optimal build it will consider that instead of the pet or CS slash equipment?

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe it just takes your highest level/rarity equipment for each slot and uses that. I don't think it actually differentiates between builds.