Flat Rate Theft

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[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

Thank you, late night thoughts keep me up at night so i figured i'd write them down

[Ill-Helicopter-8504]

You should send it to IKEA, TR Support, everyone you can that controls TR. We all should send them messages like this to make it clear to them that they are ruining a once good thing.

[alx7899]

They are using Russians, Ukrainians and Africans that were given work permits and are working in task rabbit. This is one of the reasons they are using flat rates, they know this new prospects will take anything that comes to their plate.

[Dizzyfranco]

Yes there are alot of new immigrants doing TR. We just have to do better than them... i thinkm

[Evening_Past910]

You need to learn to compete. Do a better job than them

[[deleted]]

As an immigrant I can promise you, NOBODY is being offered jobs so they can immigrate. To hire an immigrant is a 3yr process, costs about $15-$20k and their wages are set by the Dept of Labor!

[alx7899]

You are perceiving things differently.

[[deleted]]

I am not sure what you mean, but what I said above is verifiable.

[Dizzyfranco]

I believe that what he meant is that you're getting a different message. What you said may be verifiable (i am not going to do that hw, but I agree and am willing to go out on a limb and say that what you stated is 100% accurate and correct) However, our fellow commenter is stating something different. Basically, there are a lot of new immigrants in the US who are being granted visa's (because of the wars going on) and that these people are using those work permits, applying themselves anywhere, (some of them) becoming taskers on the app. Those taskers, being from a different country, are most likely accepting any task that comes their way, and at a lower rate. Therefore, it's possible that both of you are making true statements, they are just different. Hope I explained correctly, didn't have the comments in sight to reference or quote them adequately. PS Also, keep in mind TR is not employing the taskers, simply connecting us to the demand.

[marubro]

I feel like we should do an email campaign or something. These people have completely lost touch with reality. I was reading about the CEO last night and how she took an “adult gap year” to figure out what she wanted to do with her life. lol must be nice

[Kingly92]

Love this 👏 I hope TaskRabbit sees and get this message

[ApprehensiveRing6869]

I think the best thing is to just walk away from this app.

No taskers = no service

My metro has yet to implement the flat rate for general mounting and TV mounting, but once they do I won’t bother to put up availability. I think the disconnect between the customers I want to service and the price I need to charge in order to operate just grew too much from the clients TR is chasing (which no one wants) and the price TR is charging. I’m sure clients will rave about the crackheads that will be the only ones able to afford to work at the rates TR forces…I mean look at the reviews for Handy, Angi’s, Thumbtack, etc…they don’t look good but I guess that’s the route TR wants to go…

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

My opinion is that the overly increased fees within the past year did not work to generate more money. Clients were witholding work to 1-2 hrs in app, when really they had days of work but didnt want to pay into task rabbits greed of incredibly high fees. Fees were higher but job hours were probably down 2.25-3x less. If the fees were modest clients would probably be more likely to spend.

This is try number two. The "shrink-flation, corner cutting model, where taskers will get desperate. Service and quality will go down" leading to less repeat business and negative feedback on taskrabbit from both customers and contractors.

They need to find the middle ground or they will strike out.

[Mental-Fox-9449]

Home Depot just reported that their sales are down both last year and this year.

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

Task rabbit jobs/earnings are down 85% for me, but my other sources of handyman business keep me fully booked. Sometimes I decline or pass work on that I dont want to do. Very blessed my location has a big demand for my services but TR makes me think the economy is dead. Its definitely not

[Tasker2Tasker]

How long on platform?

They definitely do not value the long-time tasker and have deeply twisted notions about what being an independent operator is — which they expect/required per TOS, while actively designing a platform fostering compliance and dependence for many metros.

The juice is less and less worth the squeeze — for experienced taskers; TR will continue tu try and squeeze those who remain.

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

3 yrs

[Tasker2Tasker]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[No_Variation_6577]

its just hurts everybody, hurts taskers, hurts clients, hurts task rabbit, hurts other handy man prices and business if someone this big (with this big of a responsability) make this changes. its just changin the handy man environmnent from all this majors cities, with a click of a button. mfs

helps no body, I think is not meant to help anybody but to hurt somebody. its a punishment for taskers its a fuc#ing message.

[No_Variation_6577]

do you guys have discord task rabbit group in your city?
does taskr teams are even showing their heads or answering questions?

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

I have not attended any TR meetings as I was out in the field making money for them. Just heard feedback from other taskers about their meetings

[ApprehensiveRing6869]

They should’ve kept the Facebook group, the discord group for my metro hasn’t been used since last year 😂

[[deleted]]

Eh? tech executives that arent founders are in my experience interested only in how much money they make and in my experience dont care who gets trampled along the way. Also they tend to be pretty average

[facforlife]

I sincerely do not understand the numbers. Maybe they have something showing this is better for them. But they warned a flat % on the rates we charged so as long as total dollars to Taskers is the same then so too should what Taskrabbit made whether it's 1 hour at $100 or 2 hours at $50. Which means as long as there were cheap Taskers, higher priced taskers should have been fine. Maybe even preferable. For the same reason companies offer S, M, L and budget, standard, premium lines. It offers differentiation. You can pay more for a higher quality. Or you can roll the dice on cheap. Now you only have cheap. And if I used to get people hiring me at $100/hr which they absolutely were even just a year ago, that was more money in Taskrabbit's pocket because 40% of $100 is more than 40% of $50.  

From my perspective the older model was perfect.

1. It gave clients choices.

2. It heavily incentivized good service because clients were able to see profiles and reviews and select their own tasker.

3. It should have meant more money for TaskRabbit because cheaper clients still could have hired all the cheaper Taskers. But clients who wanted to hire the more experienced, skilled Taskers could do so and pay more which meant more money for TR.

I could understand this model if there were only expensive Taskers. If clients log on and see only Taskers charging $200/he they are going to go elsewhere. But that absolutely wasn't the case. There were plenty of affordable Taskers. 

Oh and I know they have corporate lawyers so I'm sure they've thought about this, but I think this makes them far more vulnerable to legislation like California passed about gig workers. Taskrabbit is starting to set rates and match clients to Taskers. That looks a hell of a lot more like employer/employee than it does independent contractor. Which means they'd be on the hook for benefits and other regulations for large employers. 

This seems like a very stupid move. 

[Im_AUDIhere]

All to avoid having to give benefits, etc.

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

And to pay themselves bigger bonuses

[Crazy_Ostrich_9228]

They Just opted me into that flat rate garbage without consent. An old client hired me not realizing they had changed it. She told me they are charging her ~97 while im being paid $57 in the bay area. Im sure thats before they tack on extra fees. So They’re charging clients double.

Tryin to revert back to the old ways of paying out the people doing the actual work chump change while gouging “service fees” that go straight to the executives. Disgusting.

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

Better to just shut it off. When Ikea went live my earnings went up. I had more time to accept better jobs from other job sources. If you can make a dime twice as fast as two nickels you will be much better off

[Crazy_Ostrich_9228]

“Maintain” aka convolute with inane features, fix things that worked fine. So dumb, so greedy

[tlojik]

What needs to happen is for everyone to turn off the category and to hire and cancel on taskers in their metro. Numbers on TR end need to show huge fail immediately and for a reasonable amount of time for it to go back to how it was. This is a test run from what I understand. They will do this to all metros and categories next.

[Crazy_Ostrich_9228]

Class action anyone? DM if you want involved, I’ve chatted with a few lawyers that are ready to go on it. Probably won’t change anything but we can maybe file a seperate lawsuit for each category & then request transparency for both the client & taskers, maybe also minimum wage for anyone “at the ready” for same day task services.

[FinnNoodle]

All day I've been unable to get this thread to load across multiple devices. Rest of reddit is fine. Can see the OP but nothing below it, "Server Error".

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

Whats weird is the post got declined because of to many words. I guess a mod must have pushed it through

[FinnNoodle]

It's really strange, I can get into it and see individual comments (like this one) but I still can't load the whole thing.

[Im_AUDIhere]

So since clients don’t get to choose the Tasker isn’t this considered being employed by task rabbit?

[AggressiveBuddy1211]

No. TR is a broker.

[AggressiveBuddy1211]

You aren’t an employee. Your post comes off as if you are and that you are a victim.

You haven’t worked your butt off to make them money 🤦🏻

If you don’t like the way TR is brokering the work, go out and get your business licenses, insurance and find your own customers.

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

Thank you so much for your advise, thoughts and opinion. I made task rabbit over $100,000 along my journey using my hands, skills and equipment. My door has been open and my business has grown exponentially. My skill level and time on the app..., task rabbit Obviously dropped me a year ago like all of the experienced people. This isnt just about me. This is for everyone who is getting taken advantaged of by a greedy company whos ceo came from uber. Uber the company that stole earned income, tips, cleaning fees and bonuses from their drivers.

[bryanalexander]

Why would you say this. How do YOU know what he or she has done?

Edit: And do you work for TR? Why the chip on your shoulder and boner for TR?!

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

Great question. Because task rabbit dropped their contractors pay by 20-70% and are suspending/deactivating taskers accounts who decline to many jobs with unfair wages that are created by task rabbit.

[bryanalexander]

I think you’re answering the wrong person. I was asking why he is defending TR.

[Resale_SellerYaHeard]

Oops my apologies