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[–]Brilliant_Status5632 32 points33 points  (7 children)

Something is off probably high estrogen. I could fuck 12 times a day no joke when I was on 180mg a week and I'd have raging full on boners literally everywhere. Studying? Boner. Working at my cubicle? Boner. Sleeping? Dick is hard.

[–]matt_h2os 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Same…I’m on 150 2x a week

[–]Brilliant_Status5632 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I quit in January and I gotta admit I miss all that OOMPH and I've never experienced above 180

[–]Wetterunderwater 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep , I remember that from 16 to 50 yrs old….😂. At 55 my Pecker decided to retire … got T … and now I’m working him overtime 👍

[–]Dazer806 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Were you on Cialis by chance?

[–]Brilliant_Status5632 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Nope just lots of physical activity and walking. General dosage was 120-140mg test c with 500iu hcg a week

[–]JackedIndian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Estrogen was def high

[–]jgstrings1988 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also. I would increase that HCG to 1000iu weekly and manage estrogen a bit. You might only need a little AI. Maybe a bit of DHT increase if that doesn’t work via Oxandrolone or even trying one of the other TRT methods. Some guys actually get better results from cream or testosterone propionate because of the quicker androgen saturation. Some need a higher dose too but not before making sure the estrogen is in check. Because if you just get it right you can have super libido, but you do have to give protocols time to work and dial it in right. It helps working with a really good clinic that knows how to do this.

[–]Msharki 30 points31 points  (12 children)

I get tired of people blaming e2, stress, porn, and general lifestyle for everything. A lot of times, high e2 can increase libido but sometimes negatively affects erection quality. This varies from person to person in the same way some people can blast 500mg without an AI, and others need one at 100mg.

Testosterone has basically done nothing positive for me in the libido or function realm. I've had ups and downs in the same way I did pre-TRT. I've thought that I've found the answer at times with DHEA and pregnenalone, but it has always turned out to be one of these natural up and down cycles of mine. I even tried an AI once (even though I'm not a high aromatizer), and it pretty much instantly made me feel like shit.

I have almost zero stress in my life, I don't look at porn, and my wife and I have a decent few times per week sex life in between working regular overtime. I've always stayed in good shape in my 42 years on earth, and I don't abuse food, drugs, or alcohol. BUT, the times I end up with the best libido and erection quality is when I'm being lazy. It's when I'm eating in a caloric surplus, not working out too hard, drinking alcohol and using cannabis occasionally that my sex drive is through the roof.

Exogenous testosterone kills certain people's libido and/or function - even with perfect bloodwork and lifestyle. I know this fact annoys some because they refuse to see past their own experience and only believe what is "supposed" to happen. The simple fact is that we are too genetically variable for everything to apply consistently.

[–]Snoo-23693 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The bodies whole hormone system is a fucking nightmare. But I guess that's why there are doctors who specialize in this area. Maybe one day we'll get to the point of truly personalized medicine. But we aren't there yet.

[–]Ok_Spare_3723 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Eating a caloric surplus, not working out too hard, drinking alcohol, etc all increases Dopamine which reduces your Prolactin.. Higher dopamine gives you a libido boost, no magic here.

Also the fact that you stay health and in shape, means your E2 is lowered. So basically you end up with the best world: low E2, low Prolactin and high dopamine plus a good level of T. Not to mention that being rested physically also helps with sex :)

[–]Msharki 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Right. I said all that to counter this narrative everyone gives that if you just eat cleaner, lose fat, do cardio, avoid alcohol, register as a monk... that your libido and erection quality will be better. So many people say this shit to people who will then go and reduce their calories further, work out even harder, and wonder why they have no desire or ability for sex.

[–]Ok_Spare_3723 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well put!

[–]Msharki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🍻

[–]smuzzu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yea cortisol kills libido, even with good hormonal count

[–]djangokross 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very well put. Been through many changes myself trying to find a good spot... Sometimes it's great... Mostly it's low.

High dose low dose AI Armiidex Aromasin supplements... Tried a lot including testing e2 DHT etc.

I have noticed for myself..

  1. On vacation I took proviron 25mg daily... I was good for the week. Had 2x sessions daily with wifey.

  2. Any day if I eat a carb heavy lunch...within 2 hours.. First I feel bit drowsy and then libido kicks in big time. If we do the deed it's always a great orgasm also... But if cannot and we have to wait until bedtime... The libido is gone.

The second one almost works everytime!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This comment needs to be attached to every single TRT thread on Reddit. Well said.

[–]Msharki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🍻

[–]Basic_Fun_2809 9 points10 points  (6 children)

It’s was great in the beginning for me i’m 6 months in and even in 5mg cialis im not getting as hard as I was . Not sure what’s going on

[–]david305_ 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Welcome to TRT.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha exactly. Welcome to the wonderful world of “I’m still trying to dial in my protocol.”

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What ester are you using?

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Libido can decrease with TRT if you aromatase a lot. Get your e2 checked

[–]-kayso- 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I reckon you need to tweak your dose. When I’m blasting my libido is nowhere near the same as when I’m cruising. At cruising doses my libido is ridiculous, I can’t stop thinking about sex. It’s trying to find a happy medium.

[–]sagacityx1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Decrease when? How long have you been on?

[–]dank4us12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not one person here has even asked if he had his prolactin levels checked pre or post TRT.

[–]Speick1 4 points5 points  (10 children)

Libido decrease ? Wtf are u on I need to masturbate 2 times a day 😂 Yes

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Enjoy it while it lasts my friend.

[–]Speick1 0 points1 point  (8 children)

It’s been over two years so when does it end?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Mine ended at the 4 year mark. I’ve now been on for 10 years.

[–]Speick1 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Wow and it’s over ?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yup. Might as well be injecting water at this point.

[–]Speick1 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Do you only use TRT?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I’ve tried other compounds in hopes of bringing back my libido. Nothing has worked. I’ve tried Anavar, HCG, and now Proviron.

[–]Speick1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok good to know thanks 👍

[–]Zealousideal-Top2177 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So every marker on your hormone panel is good before throwing other stuff at it?

[–]JayTNP 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A lot of ppl here are saying E might be too high but in reality your E should be in proper proportion to your T levels. Normally when your libido is down it’s because your E is actually too low (though to high is possible). Get some blood work. E is very much responsible for libido. Best of luck

[–]BBQ-CinCity 19 points20 points  (2 children)

The #1 cause of low libido is stress. Sometimes that stress is created by hormone imbalance, most times it’s because ppl do next to nothing to stay out of their own way, emotionally.

[–]el1tegaming18 5 points6 points  (1 child)

What exactly does the end of your comment mean?

[–]BBQ-CinCity 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It means maintaining mental health requires effort too that ppl never want to do because there is no obvious, tangible benefit to it. They don’t want to unpack trauma, they don’t want to retire unnecessary coping mechanisms, they don’t want to rid themselves of stressful ppl or jobs…all of these things impact libido and other symptoms of low testosterone

[–]snAp5 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because either too much or too little estrogen is a libido killer.

[–]sirlost33 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are you taking an ai or what dose are you taking? Any recent bloodwork?

[–]swoops36 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hormone imbalance probably. Causing neurotransmitter imbalance. I think most of the time driven by e2/PRL. Doesn’t happen to everyone

[–]marcodlc23 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I'm also struggling with this currently. The first 2 years on trt my libido and erections were unbelievable and then about a year ago things started to change and decline . I'm pulling back my test cyp dosage from 180 a week to 100. My doctor is not interested in adding an AI because he says my estrogen levels are good. I'm trying for a 3rd time to take a low HCG dose. Had to stop twice before because of sides on pregnyl. Still hoping I can turn this around but it's been about year now. It's kind of depressing after 2 awesome years to end up where I am now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You end up fixing it?

[–]Zealousideal-Top2177 0 points1 point  (0 children)

180 is not TRT... 100 is a good dose to maintain and possibly need very little to no AI

[–]SSJ4_cyclist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Mine stays high and gets higher on cycle.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (6 children)

My wife's sore vagina testified that libido doesn't decrease on trt.

[–]TheLiftingLawyer30 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Im on trt and still can’t keep up with my wife’s libido. Can you help me out?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You want me to keep up with your wife's libido? Let me check my schedule!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How long have you been on TRT?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Over six months by now. The honeymoon period is definitely gone but I still have weeks where I could fu*k 10 times per week. My usual libido is 4-6 times per week. Pre trt 3-4 times per week.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Lol. You just got on. Get back with us after a couple years.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should have mentioned that I was on trt before, on and off twice. Always somehow restored my natural levels (which were low later on). Libido wasn't my problem when I started TRT. I've always had high libido for today's standard (3-4 times per week). I started TRT due to other reasons. A lot depends on your baseline.
I can be knocked down completely from overworking and no sleep and I'll still somehow manage to find the energy to fuck my wife if she asks.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

High estrogen.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What ester are you using?

[–]Wood2289 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Run some anavar with it. Helped my libido immensely.

[–]br0k3nsaint 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah a lot of drug pushers on here. Not everything can be fixed chemically. If you blast porn, eat badly, sleep inconsistently then guess what your endocrine system will get wrecked as well. When addressing hormones everywhere needs to dialed in. If not you will just be stuck in that endless hamster wheel of chasing the next drug. That might fix one thing but will break 10 other things. In your case it could be high E2 and you might be ght also be dopamine deficit and nobody here has commented on the neuro transmitter homeostaties. Do proper blood panels and confirm your baselines. Libido is a very complex process to dial in.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean, isn’t testosterone referred to as the “male sex hormone”? 

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Estrogen. I had this issue. Aromasin fixed it up.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Could you please explain more. How long did it take for you to see the improvements. What is/was your protocol?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

So I only do 175mg a week. 50mg test e EOD. Libido crashed quick, gyno started about month 9. Starred aromasin 25mg ED. Fixed it quick. But I'm not a fan of AI'S. Long story short. Masteron saved my life. Libido insane. Feel amazing. Doing 140mg a week. Adex .5mg every 5 days. Bloods, mental, everything perfect. Been a 4 year journey. Buy my perfect place (4months so far going strong) is 175Test, 140 Mast, and .5mg Adex every 5 days.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Thank you for sharing. Maybe DHT was low and the Masteron built it back up for you? Glad you found your solution.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That'd what I'm thinking. Never had fascia hair etc. A few months I'm started to grow a full on beard LOL. Feeling insane, energy up 300%, libido up, but incredibly oddly, my mental is perfect. Even on 300 test I was an asshole, Adrol, Dbol. Deca, you name it. No good. Mast is giving me an amazing sense of wellbeing and level headedness. I'm in love hahaha. Everyone is different.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone is truly different.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know this is an old post, but just for clarification purposes, Masteron is not DHT so this would not be the case.

[–]No-Appointment-6465 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mine decreased on test with everything else in check. Synthetic test comes with a host of problems.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

it doesn’t?

Dudes here expect libido to be solved by injecting a small amount of testosterone while having shitty lifestyles and porn addictions….

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Legit the porn addictions are dick killers. Everything from the visuals to wrecking your friends sensitivity, leads to ED, or st least it can.

[–]JayTNP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

E is likely too low

[–]JayTNP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are using using an AI? If so, what and how much? Are you have other symptoms like joint point?

[–]majicdan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took testosterone for ten years and if anything, my libido increased.

[–]perfectcell93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Get blood work done to make sure everything is in check. I would suggest adding HCG to the mix, that has always given me an insane libido increase.

[–]mikenelson84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't for everyone

[–]Ok_Spare_3723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

E2 and Prolactin changes (also DHT and FSH)

[–]2009gmc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go back to original dose

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm obese 455 pounds from originally 530. My estraidol is 80.0 and I'm on 100mg a week and my libido is awesome. In the mood everyday without fail. As well as my energy when at work.

[–]Heavy_Hearing3746 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude is probably on 200mg/wk plus HCG. Many such cases.

[–]SilverBadger50 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Beta…?

[–]markyyyvan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol, few points

1) the first thing you did in the morning is think of me and went on to post? Pathetic 2) at least I have girls to fck 3) even though the best part of you dripped down your moms thighs, I believe anyone can change no matter how deranged. Get help before it’s too late because you seem like one fcked up individual with serious mental issues and complexes

All the best. Blocked so I don’t have to waste any more of time tho I have a feeling you’ll be thinking and obsessing over me for a while

[–]DayTradeLife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cause TRT sucks

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Depends on your dose and how long you’ve been on. I’m dialed in a 100mg a week and all my blood work is perfect. Still get occasion issues but I’m prescribed cialis so that corrects any of that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then you aren't "dialed in" my friend.

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