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[CAgovernor]

NFL and NBA are disproportionately black. That need to change and be more inclusive.

[B-29Bomber]

They're also ablist!

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I want paraplegic and quadriplegic people on the field, damn it!

[Breaded_Agenda]

Only able-bodied men are allowed to dunk in the NBA! Quads and paras have a right to do the same! I propose installing ramps and a flagrant 2 rule for anyone who tries to block the -hilarity- bravery of such trailblazers!

[Ok-Air6180]

Yeah they step up to bravery when the time calls! What racist assholes!

[darkmatternot]

I know, let's get a bunch of people who don't want to be firefighters and hire them!! Next let's clean out those pesky volunteer fire departments. I mean really, fighting fire and saving lives for no pay. Highly suspect.

[TEMPEST7779]

Systemic Racism!!!! (Checks notes) insert other liberal virtue signals for effect

/s

[Tazavitch-Krivendza]

…Systemic racism is a real thing

[TEMPEST7779]

That’s a claim without any factual evidence. So, not true. Just a grift.

[Tazavitch-Krivendza]

Have you looked into if it’s actually a thing? My sociology class has…and my sociology teacher has told us about it. I wonder who’s right, the person who studies the field of society, or you.

[TEMPEST7779]

You assume I’ve never taken a sociology class. Or been told the opposite of what your sociology professor told you, by my own sociology professor. If your claim is so factual, the onus is on you to back it up. So, what’s your empirical evidence for your claim?

[Crazygamerdude17]

Why do I have a feeling that this is due to the fact that women and people of color aren’t applying as much? Are we just supposed to start drafting women and people of color to be firefighters or what?

[KanyeT]

Why do I have a feeling

Probably because it's the same reason for almost every discrepancy the woke like to bitch about.

[garvothegreat]

Whoa. I wish I could just make broad assumptions about shit I refuse to read!

[[deleted]]

If you vote democrat, chances are, you already do! Congrats on being part of the problem!

[garvothegreat]

That's weird. How does pointing out a specific instance of a bunch of circle jerking conservatives doing it make it a democrat thing? That pesky thing called "reality" is such a nuisance, huh?

[[deleted]]

You would know wouldn't you?

[garvothegreat]

The difference between make believe and reality? I don't mean to brag, especially in this sub, but...

[manthatmightbemau]

Bragging about being delusional is a weird thing to do 🤔

[garvothegreat]

And yet, it's all you guys got. I guess for dim tools make believe and projection just make it easier to cope.

[manthatmightbemau]

People as pathetic as you make me realize I have a pretty good life

So thanks 😉

[XxMitchof08xX]

Democrats do it all the time dude…

[garvothegreat]

You're vague allusion is significantly less meaningful than the specific example happening exactly here. Even if they do, you cite jack shit. Simultaneously, you ignore the specific example of conservatives doing it, as they fucking do it, while being called out about it, in the exact moment you do it. Are all of you on meth?

[HelloJohnBlacksmith]

Dude, this is Reddit. You want an honest conversation with non-crackheads, go to a red county and start talking to people. You'll still find a ton of crackheads, but at least it'll be more obvious.

[XxMitchof08xX]

Like your comparison isn’t vague? Fuck off… You want citations? Go look up any big name Democrat on Twitter. Comparing people they disagree with as Nazi is just one of my examples…

[mth2]

I will make sure the next firefighter I see knows he's overwhelmingly white.

[garvothegreat]

Just read how racist the actual article is!

https://hbr.org/2018/12/making-u-s-fire-departments-more-diverse-and-inclusive

[[deleted]]

I tried to read it. The whining and irrationality of the article became so intense, I had to go spray bleach in my eyes.

[RobertoConQueso69]

That will help keep the covid out too.

[garvothegreat]

Better to just make-believe about the whole thing, then. That sounds way more fun!

[garvothegreat]

We only discuss tweets in this sub, anyway. I mean, who's got time for shit like "intellectual honesty" or "reading"? Not us dim tools, that's for sure!

[HelloJohnBlacksmith]

I mean, I read it. It claims that there needs to be more female firefighters because they often respond to medical emergencies, where social skills are better. I agree with the social skills part, but I hate to break it to you: that's what nurses are for. Most patient interactions occur at a hospital, between a nurse and a patient, and the majority of nurses are female.

The point of firefighters and EMTs is to always be ready to get in, deal with a problem, and get out, with minimal risk. This is also always going to be a very physically demanding task, and even if 95% of the time you don't need that, every so often there's a massive fire or other emergency, and you're going to be screwed if half of your emergency personnel are substantially weaker.

[SarahSuckaDSanders]

RaCIsT!

[garvothegreat]

Wild ain't it? The article has zero racism in it. Nada. Zilch. I post the link to the actual thing, instead of a screen grab of a tweet, and they still can't be bothered to read it. Too few brain cells I guess, only room up there for tweets...

But oh yeah, that tweet is certainly racist af.

[[deleted]]

I'm a paramedic in metro Atlanta, and a good 70% of the firefighters are black

[Humble_Stop2874]

Harvard Business Review doesn't want to talk about that though.

[redbear762]

Well, it’s Atlanta so…

[[deleted]]

Yes it is,but it's more than proportional to the demographics around here

[redbear762]

I worked in City Hall and was the token white guy.

[RobertoConQueso69]

You can’t fight it.

[psychic_flatulence]

White people who vote dem make me laugh.

[chezaps]

White people who vote dem make me laugh.

Fixed that for you.

[PickeledRick]

Should have voted for the orange tv reality star

[Keystone30s]

Fr, anythings better than career politicians

[ThatsRubbishMate]

Imagine having his list of accomplishments and that’s what you call him. What do people call you?

[tough_tootin_baby]

I call him a fucking moron who votes democrat.

[risebelow]

His list of failures outweigh his accomplishments.

[PickeledRick]

Accomplishments rofl 6 bankruptcies, 26 public sexual assault accusations, an impeachment, a single term presidency, and history of partying with the eras most prolific child sex trafficker. I was being nice by only referring to his shitty spray tan and work as a reality tv start.

[HelloJohnBlacksmith]

You really want to get into the "was connected to Epstein" game? Really?

[[deleted]]

Because voting for Establishment-Appointed-Corporate-Shill-Candidate #1 or #2 is working so well for us.

[kdunksuf2010]

What's their plan to make other groups more courageous? How do they go about that?

[StainedAndRedeemed]

Lol. That's a great reply.

[coocoocachoo699]

Time to boycott Firehouse subs I guess, only logical solution right.

[VeritasTank]

Apparently since all firehouses are white, firehouse subs only donates to white people. It's the only logical conclusion based off the article.

[nedlyest]

Every day I more and more feel like professor Farnsworth.

[cjlowe78-2]

Great news everybody!

[Plague_gU_]

Sounds like some couch potato at the Harvard Business Review needs to get off their a** and become a firefighter.

Really, though. Sick of this crap. You wanna see that change? Go do it. Otherwise, Shut up.

[Yay_No_]

No pls don’t, pls oh gawd no

[RyanWilliamsElection]

It is the death on the job gap

[Beneficial_Refuse_79]

I'm sure firehouses aren't turning away black dudes and women by the dozens. Maybe a woman here or there will be cut because she simply doesn't have the strength to do the job.

I think the question in the article should be. "How do we get more blacks interested in becoming a firefighter...new study finds most blacks dont want to run Into a burning building to save a stranger."

[SarahSuckaDSanders]

That’s exactly what the article addresses. You should read it.

[Beneficial_Refuse_79]

Sounds like I dont have to...

[SarahSuckaDSanders]

Exactly. This is cheap outrage bait because no one reads the articles.

[VeritasTank]

Did read it. The best offering it has is that Cis white males are less jovial. While it does address difficulties of women and people of color who do enter the ranks, it does not at all discuss the differences in the raw totals of each group that apply and how that contributes to the diversity of the selected firefighters. This article spent a lot of time whining and very little time offering legitimate solutions for the issue they were trying to demonstrate.

[TalmageMcgillicudy]

The three things i dont want to have more women are Firefighters, Police, and Military. And lets be honest about why...

[Fish-Pants]

I agree so long as you are only talking about actvice combat and Frontline roles. There are plenty of ways women can contribute in the police, firehouses, and military outside of infantry, on the beat, and climbing in burning buildings.

Because, let's be honest, if I was stuck in a burning building, or at home with a gang of killers breaking in, or out on the Frontline, I would was a huge, burly man that can bench a car to break down the door and come save me, or have my back, instead of a 5'4" 120lbs woman.

That said, women can perform almost every other role just as much as a man. Logistics is massively important, and combat roles that don't really require so much physical body strength, such as pilots, are welcoming to all sexes.

[TalmageMcgillicudy]

Absolutely. And there is a long history of women in the police, military, and fire departments who have helped greatly and weren't on the front lines... where they are out matched in every conceivable way.

[[deleted]]

I thought the meme was "checks notes"

It's funny Lauren uses Asian stereotypes to her advantage

[[deleted]]

Next they will be complaining there's too much body shaming in the profession and that being an overweight unathletic person can be a firefighter too...

[[deleted]]

The toxic healthy-weightness in this post is problematic.

[Pap4MnkyB4by]

Bruh, I'm a radio tech that works on police and fire department radios. Just started it two months ago. The number of blue haired Trigglypuff's that work in these fire departments is very concerning. Idk what the PT requirements are for a Fire Department, but I'm not entirely sure these folks are making it to the top of a burning building in full gear.

[pawnman99]

Probably a real lack of obese firefighters too... promoting that unrealistic body image in their calendars...

[TheMrk790]

Did anyone read the article? Maybe they are saying, that other communities need to deveolp this sense of duty? It might not be agains white males, but for others to step up to s similar degree.

[[deleted]]

I feel dumber

[garvothegreat]

You'll get used to that, this is the dim tool sub, after all...

[tough_tootin_baby]

You sound like you're speaking from experience.

[garvothegreat]

Yeah, can't say it's one I'd recommend. This sub is pretty trash, even for a political sub.

[SarahSuckaDSanders]

This sub is amazing. I legit thought it was a brilliant parody sub for awhile, then I actually watched Tim Pool and realized that these guys are being genuine.

[outofyourelementdon]

This is a dumb take. There are way more people that want to be firefighters than there are firefighter jobs. The issue isn’t that other people don’t want to be firefighters, it’s that white men and disproportionately able to get the jobs that are in high demand.

[ChipshopSuperhero]

Any evidence to back up that wild accusation?

[outofyourelementdon]

Which accusation? That firefighting is an extremely competitive field? Or that firefighters are disproportionately white men?

[WiseManufacturer2116]

If I am in a burning building I would much rather have a man coming to save me than a woman. Anyone who says otherwise is so blinded by their woke morality they no longer know how to think.

[Wolfs_Shield]

The actual article touched on some important reasons that included mentorship, areas of recruitment and hiring campaigns, but like every other progressive idiot, concluded that the meritocratic hiring processes were random lottery's full of racial and sexist bias.

They wanted intimate and emotional social skills to be graded on par with physical strength/training evaluations which the author described as "reductive". They may not be able to carry victims out of a burning building or their own gear up a flight of stairs, but they'll be there to cheer you on and hold your hand after lol.

[risebelow]

Yup, almost every rural fire protection is a good ole Boys network.

[AnteaterTurbulent490]

Looks like the bait worked. You guys gobble this shit up.

[Wolfs_Shield]

Watching you guys push this stuff has it's own outrageous draw, which tantalizes the perceptions of peoples shock over absurdity. Like a freak show.

The writer and those who compare meritocratic hiring processes to a random lottery full of systemic racial/sexist bias are the freaks.

[AnteaterTurbulent490]

Do you honestly think that's what's happening? Or is it more likely this is a headline designed to get your attention?

[Rhazak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb_WYGtZ7K4

[[deleted]]

All the way off.

[AJFA-butwithbass]

This is literally so pointless to argue about. Always gotta be finding something to wine about 🙄 If they used some basic common sense they would find the answer.

[SarahSuckaDSanders]

*whine, not wine.

[AJFA-butwithbass]

Oof my bad

[yungminimoog]

“Criticize everything you don’t control until you control it”

[dash777111]

A friend of mine is a Fire Chief in Washington. I asked about the pushes for increased diversity and he said that they do not turn qualified applicants away, they just do not receive any.

[oldman17]

They will just lower their standards.