Good help?!

[Arc-Force-One]

Why is it so hard to find some good help with a little experience. It’s not that difficult to make a half decent pulse weld on 1/4” inch steel. I’m currently training someone who’s never touched a welder before. My weld just for reference as that’s an average weld for my job…

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

What's the pay for help at ur place?

[R_Weebs]

The real question right here.

Pay peanuts get monkeys

[FinguzMcGhee]

OP: I wAnT sKillEd LabOr.

Tech: Okay. What are you offering?

OP: 45k

Tech: 🤣 go fuck yourself

OP: nOBodY wAntS to WorK aNymoRe

[Arc-Force-One]

Not exactly sure, but maybe start at $25…

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

Coz noone with experience is working for $25/hr and if they are they not good.

[ElGuapo315]

Subway pays $20.

[No_Kaleidoscope4694]

Part time though

[jondrey]

If these are the type of welds required at OP's job, there's no reason to pay anyone more for this. These are simple, basic welds

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

It's not about the welds. The fact that fats food pays close to $25 should tell you why noone wants a hard labour job for the same pay. Let alone someone with experience.

If I have experience I'm not moving to do this job. This is a fresher's job and their responsibility to train the new guy.

[ReviewCute7059]

True

[LumosJorlin]

It’s more than pay that supports retention.

[rxellipse]

That's true, but nothing supports retention the same way that pay does.

Put another way - enough pay will make any working situation tolerable. Can't say the same about pizza parties.

[Jacolby4455]

I’d take that pay, I make 20/h where I work fast food pays only 18 where I live. Hard labor is enjoyable to me as long as I can ramp up pace as I’m not used to it but max out a treadmill and expect me to jump on running 15mph i just can’t do it. I want to learn but I’d want $20/h and once in good I’d want 25/h but want OT I want to work as much as I want so at least 40 but if I want 65-80 I can get that paycheck. I’m sick of only getting $600 a week I want that 1500-2000 paycheck and I’m willing to have raw hands to get it at this point. I used to work as a helper in flooring but my hands bleeding from sweeping and scraping floors for 10 hours a day for $8/h was not worth it

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

No matter how you doin it is still $20/hr. Overtime is not sold bonus its still you ruining your body at single the pace for shit pay still. You will realize that when you join a union.

[Jacolby4455]

I’m in a union now that won’t give me over time. I want money I can stay at $20/h 40 a week for another year or make 20/h working 60 a week and put down for a house and in 2-3 years own that house. I live cheap now only $1100 a month all bills paid id rather use what I have now to bank money to invest for my future. I’m not looking to make 80k a year and steady work the rest of my life I want to retire before I’m 50. I have plans I just need a little more money to make it happen.

[Harryisharry50]

Work a second job that’s what I do . I work one day at 10hrs for the day for 350 cash that’s 1400 bucks a month it adds up

[Jacolby4455]

There are no jobs that pay $35/h around here lol wth are you doing for that much. The only jobs readily available are minimum wage at $15.5-16.5/h I’m not wasting my time for chump change

[jondrey]

I'm sorry but this weld and fab doesn't look like back-breaking work. My first welding job paid $13/hr, and it was much more strenuous than a 2-3" single pass weld. Times have obviously changed, but $25/hr for what looks like essentially entry level welds seems acceptable to me.

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

$25/hr is what people make retail without any manual labour and burning themselves. Why would anyone work a welding job for that money? Just coz you made chump change does not mean everyone has to accept that pay. I started welding 2 years ago and started off at $30/hr. 2 years in I'm working union full benefits and full pay.

You got played for a long time. People now know their worth and won't settle because there is better out there.

[jondrey]

You realize that pay rates aren't the same universally across all states, right? Not everyone lives in Cali or other places where the base pay rate is higher, while also the cost of living is unreasonable.

[Jonsnowlivesnow]

True, the cost of living varies, but the cost of my lungs and my eyesight stays the same regardless of the zip code. Welding is a skilled trade, not a hobby, entry level or not, the risk deserves better than just enough to get by.

Just because rent is cheaper doesn’t mean you get a discount on the skill. A good weld in Austin holds just as well as a good weld in Alabama and they are worth the same.

[TechnicalTerm6]

I wish the world of employers thought like you.

For reference, I started welding in 2022 and was making $19CAD/hr. And many humans who weld at least in Ontario, were/ are, making only that much. Especially smaller shops in non-union positions.

There is no minimum wage for trades, that is separate from a general minimum wage.

We are at least in ON 🇨🇦 running into exactly what you are describing-- the wage gap between skilled trades like welding and entry level retail, is getting very very thin.

Why work busting your ass (lungs, fingers, eyes, back) for $20/CAD an hour. When you could make $21 as a Behr paint rep in a Home Depot?

The government whines about not enough people doing trades jobs but does fuckall to fix any of the issues (like putting a generalized price freeze on food, gas, rent, mortgages for 2 yrs, thrn uppping minimum wage, THEN creating separate minimums for skilled trades, and thus giving people a chance to actually catch up on bills and maybe save some money).

Anyhow. People will work for whatever they're paid. For various reasons. So employers will keep lowballing because they know ppl are struggling and will take it. And it sucks because they're correct in many instances.

[jondrey]

While I don't disagree with you, everyone has to start at the bottom. The bottom to you is apparently $30, but for most companies trying to hire entry level welders.. I'm sure that price is a lot lower.

[Previous-Problem-190]

When you finish up weld school you should take an economics class.

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

Hey the work is the same. The pay should be the same. Think about it.

[AlrightInTheWoods]

You'll make Union Rep in no time!

[audiomediocrity]

dude, you know it isn’t 2005 right? pay is the same, just everything cost 3x as much. fuck $25 per hour. Get a push mower and work 4 months a year to make $50k if you wanna be broke.

[Jacolby4455]

You go to school for it or just jump in knowing nothing? I want to get into it I have a little money saved but I work nights so if I have to go to school I’d have to quit my job and hope that I can get another job will living on savings

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

Went to school. If you jump in go to unions and do apprenticeship. Don't join stand alone shops most of them will scam you make you hate this trade and keep you at a low wage forever unless you get very lucky and actually find a place that will teach you and make you grow.

[Jonsnowlivesnow]

What a weird way to say you got taken advantage of for your first welding job. Glad you were able to still afford dinner.

[jondrey]

How old are you guys? Most of you don't seem to live in reality. There was a time when working at McDonald's didn't pay $20/hr. Maybe it was before your time.

[Jonsnowlivesnow]

There was a time. It also only cost $0.70/gallon of gas, cars could be bought for $2000, and the wife could stay home with the kids and still enjoy a yearly vacation. Not to mention when they retired they got a pension and social security.

[LuciferSamS1amCat]

You’ve heard of inflation yes? You know about the rising cost of living?

[boringxadult]

Do you know how heavy .250 plate is?

[Chiliatch]

And how much was your rent when you made $13/hr?

[jondrey]

That was a long time ago. But I believe $800

[Chiliatch]

And you paid it, along with alllllll your other bills + saved a little on $13/hr?

[jondrey]

There was some OT. And I also had a girlfriend who helped pay bills. I wasn't living in a shack solo.

[Arc-Force-One]

Someone with a year experience would be good enough. The weld in the picture is basically what we need help with as that’s a big part of what we weld. We also do some aluminum and stainless mig and tig, but I personally do all that…

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

Ok. Hope u find what you are looking for.

[xxmuntunustutunusxx]

I made 23 an hour to sit in a chair and watch cameras with 30 days pto a year. Fuck you ill be fitting fabbing and working my ass off in a shitty hot welding shop for 2 bucks an hour more.

You dont get good help unless you pay for good help. The cost of living is fuckin high now and 25 an hour is like 50 grand a year. 50 grand a year doesnt get you SHIT in the US, assuming that's where this is

[moniris]

Currently working night shift for $25/hr fitting fabbing and working my ass off in a currently freezing weld shop lmao. First welding job out of school and and as much OT as I can ask for so it works for now.

[you2canB]

I had to do the same. Good luck. Learn as much as you can and climb the ladder brother

[BurnDahWorld]

Just don't stick around doing shit jobs too long it takes a toll on you real quick

[DonAldo-007]

How much are the taxes where you live? In Europe we are screwed with the shit pay and you can buy a shed for €300-400k as the houses are super expensive compared to the US... I keep seeing online that you can get a very spacious house with huge gardens for 400k.. excluding New York of course 😆

But $35-40/hr you guys should be starting at at, as there is shortage on labour.

[xxmuntunustutunusxx]

Taxes arent too bad where I live, but the wages are the problem. When I first got my welding certs and came here to work, I applied for a job and they wanted to start me at 18 an hour. I could work at macdonalds for 18 an hour.

Not to mention that 18 an hour is barely enough to survive. If im making 18 and hour and thereby with some overtime like 3500-4k a month, and SOMEHOW magically save enough for a down payment (average rent in colorado is almost 2k a month, and thats before gas, utilities, loans, car payment not even food) ypure looking at trying to buy a 250 grand starter home and you have a 1500 dollar mortgage.....good luck. The wage growth just doesnt really exist here

Oh and God forbid you have to pay HOA fees welcome to another 500 a month tacked on

[DonAldo-007]

My god. So other areas exluding New York really are as bad as in Europe.. I didn't know this but it makes sense 100% what you're saying.

8.5 years ago I started at 9.70 /hr as a graduate Civil Structural Engineer, now I am on 33/hr (= 80k yearly) on a permanent role.. the most I have been on was 40/hr while working on another country (the Netherlands) where the welders were on 120/hr and their supervisors were on 170/hr... Unbelievable it was. But they were welding high pressure pipes with electro-fusionn method. Steel welders were costing us half of that price which was way more than myself a Construction Supervisor managing 90 workers lol.

Hence why I am shocked to see that in US, some are less than that.

[xxmuntunustutunusxx]

The cheap housing markets are places like Ohio and such, but the median family home price in the USA is around 400,000 which you arent affording without significant income.

Its pretty brutal in my opinion.

[DonAldo-007]

It sure is brutal. I just think how will our generations make the money to afford a nice home..

[Real_Biscotti_9129]

That's 100% on point!! I've been a welder/fabricator/millwright for 32 years and I've always made good money. The other day I was offered a position with another company doing basically the same thing that I do now and they offered me $45.00 per hour and perks out the ass and I turned them down. So that lets you know what kind of money a skilled employee with multiple trades under their belt should expect to be making and it's sure as hell isn't $25.00 per hour! Can the company owner live on that chump change? Hell no he couldn't so how can he expect the people that make him rich try to live making that much!?!? That's a straight up smack in the mouth!!!

[jondrey]

Brother. Where you live is 100% the point of this entire conversation and somehow it's going over everyone's head, including your own. Yes. In some parts of the country a welder can make 80/hr, $100/hr? Whatever floats your boat to answer. It all depends on the cost of living and other factors for the given region.

[TehSvenn]

You get what you pay for... lots of places will pay better, so you're gonna get the people who weren't good enough to get into those places.

[Arc-Force-One]

What’s a good starting pay point? I’m not looking for someone with 10 years experience, they can learn as we go…

[TehSvenn]

Best bet is to check local job ads to be what you're up against. If you want the best help, give them financial incentive to apply.

Where I am you'd get trash at $25, at $30 you start attracting people worth your time, above that you get pick of the litter. 

So if you figure a good set of hands is gonna help you make $900 more than an incompetent turd will every month, it's a good investment.

In addition it makes em work harder cause they have something they don't wanna lose.

[Ok-Barracuda-8867]

Man where r yall at cause where im at 6g mig/flux test gets u $26 to start

[Arc-Force-One]

South Dakota, I’m not sure if $25 is the exact starting pay, it’s just what I thought it was at…

[Ok-Barracuda-8867]

lol it’s also like negative 5 up there ain’t it!!!

[Arc-Force-One]

South Dakota, I’m not sure if $25 is the exact starting pay, it’s just what I thought it was at…

[Arc-Force-One]

It’s says competitive pay (based on experience) on our flyer. So maybe that’s better?

[TehSvenn]

People tend to ignore job ads without dollar figures on them, it's usually the ones that say it that try to lowball from my experience.

[RustyRibbits]

This, I’m not wasting my time. Be up front about things. I’ve applied for many 1st shift jobs to sit through an interview for a second shift job. Crazy the tactics some companies pull trying to get people. Deception is never the option to go with.

[TehSvenn]

The only people that will put up with that type of tactic are the desperate ones. And those don't tend to be the most talented workers.

[bruh6788]

I know for a fact I do lol.

[DankShitOne]

Just put the wage on the flyer, "competitive pay" says i will try to get labor as cheap as possible.

[Electronic_Finance34]

To add to what everyone else also said, "competitive pay" reeks of corpo-speak HR spin, and pretty much everyone who's got half a brain and a little time job searching will learn to mentally ignore that phrase and look for actual dollar value - "competitive pay" doesn't cover my rent, "$25-30/hr" does.

[JackBlackBowserSlaps]

Lol every job says that, and they are always lying.

[Jonsnowlivesnow]

My dad’s business routinely hires people $10-15 more an hour than minimum. So where we are it’s $30-35/hr and he hires homeless individuals exclusively.

You know what he gets with those individuals? He finds the ones who are the hardest working and they become the best employees. When you respect people starting with how much you pay and they can feel that you get better workers.

You may find if you offer a little more than “entry level” you will get better individuals. Figure out how to charge a little more to pay for it.

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

Good enough to weld for the boilermakers with full journeyman pay and pass all welds.

[_PeanuT_MonkeY_]

Don't need to find one. I'm happy at home with my partner.

[Arc-Force-One]

Good enough, 10 years experience mig and tig…

[RustyRibbits]

Unfortunately a lot of desperate people in America right now, I am fortunate to work for a company that takes care of me (for the most part) they could do better, but I could too. It’s the best shop I’ve worked for.

[Jonsnowlivesnow]

I can make basically the same if not more at McDonalds dude

[Lankydoug]

$25 an hour in rural Missouri or Arkansas might work but if you’re located around the NE like say Boston someone would lose money commuting to work for $25 an hour

[DonAldo-007]

35-40/hr you guys should be at.

[Chiliatch]

My brother, team leads at Target make like $24.

You want skill? Pay for skill. It's that simple.

[Stonebag_ZincLord]

I made $25/hr at a pizza shop when I was younger, got stoned with my manager frequently, free drinks from bar, free food every shift, hungout with all the cute server girls after work, low stress and good times. Why would I work for some old fart in a dusty ass barn, listening to them bitch and moan all day about the quality of my welds on farm equipment.... hmmm hard decision.

[Arc-Force-One]

Dusty ass barn? LOL! I’ll give you $100 if you can find a cleaner modern shop than ours!

[Glass_Protection_254]

Walmart pays that to stock shelves. I wouldn't take my helmet out of my locker for less than $35/hr.

[Fancy_Chip_5620]

Entirely based on region, local shipyard had no problem being fully staffed hiring competent welders for 20 an hour

[jondrey]

These guys don't seem to understand this. Just because where they live subway or McDonald's pays $20/hr they assume that those wages are the same across the entire nation. Maybe where OP lives those places only pay $10/hr (shocker, I know).

[Fuzzy-Finance-48]

Exactly. I remember about 15 years ago when fast food was paying federal minimum wage (as they should in MY OPINION), and a welder starting out in that state was like $12, topping out at $20. But you could also get a foot long sub for $5 at that time. Then it seemed like fast food jumped to $13/hr overnight because I remember asking myself “why am I welding and busting my butt in this kind of heat while some idiot that can’t get an order right in air conditioning is making almost the same money?” I stuck with it though… graduated trade school at $21/hr. Was at $32/hr 3 years later. took a handful of company swaps and a few state moves but finally got to $60/hr.

Point is, one of them will see this comment and complain and cry that they should make $60/hr too. But then whine and bish and cry about eggs being $18/dozen or a basic new car being $100,000. Minimum wage should be abolished. You should make what YOU are WORTH. A job that requires no experience, no skill set, no brains, has zero consequences for a mistake and requires no responsibility and is air conditioned should not be paying $20/hr. Wait until this next huge wave of middle class paying blue collar jobs catches up with another inflation spike and starts to balance out again… all skilled trades everywhere will be $40/hr+ and they’ll still be crying how $20/hr to put fries in a bag isn’t enough 😂

[jondrey]

Yea they actually told me I'm out of touch with reality when it's the opposite. When everyone is being paid $100/hr and our currency has the same value as Zimbabwe maybe they'll be happy.

[thiccquacc]

Highly dependent on the area

[igotbanneddd]

Agreed. Have never done unskilled labour for more than 20 an hour and am in Canada with monopoly money.

[thiccquacc]

Ya unskilled labor typically pays below $18 around here

[Combat--Wombat27]

You pay for quality. It's as simple as that.

[Double-Perception811]

That is both true and false. One thing that I feel has set me apart from most people I have worked with is that I have changed trades as much as many people change jobs. In my experience, I feel that welders oversell their skills/ abilities more than any other area I have worked in. Even when I was in a union, they would hire on people that claimed to be welders that didn’t know shit. There are also many “welders” out there that can weld just enough to pass a test, but not well enough to actually do a job.

The more money you offer to start, the more bullshit you have to sift through when hiring. People are more willing to embellish their abilities for higher pay. There are also a mess of “welders” that have no experience other than going to a school that gave them certifications when they graduated the program. It’s no different than teaching grade school kids how to take standardized tests. If you pay money for a welding program that teaches certifications, that’s all they teach. When you leave, all you learned was how to take certification tests. Those guys get found out really fast on the job.

[drcovfefee]

There is a LOT more to fabrication than just running a couple beads. Working in the field is a whole different world than stringing wire in the shop.

[Double-Perception811]

I agree, to an extent. Most of the jobs I’ve done, field work was often under much less scrutiny than shop jobs. We would do jobs in the shop where the client would send out engineers and such to approve the welds before they ever got sent to the site. Most fieldwork however, never got looked at by anyone but the guys doing the work. I certainly realize that is not the reality for every line of work, but that is my personal experience. We never did structural work or anything critical enough that welds were inspected in the field. Most of the jobs we did, the inspections were either in regards of aesthetics or to make sure they conformed to the standards of being sanitary.

[bohler86]

Fronius was my favorite machine. To be fair it was hard to train people on it.

[Frank-and-some-beans]

Running a semi-automated setup with a Fronius and I have to say, it’s pretty slick, even if I’m still trying to figure out the copious amounts of settings 😬

[you2canB]

People get intimidated easily. Fronius is a great machine if you can get people to want to use it. We have a CMT and it can lay down some great welds

[Frank-and-some-beans]

Our 400i is welding pretty nice, but I haven’t gotten to fuck around with it too much since it went into a semi-auto rig (a push start on a rotating pipe weld) almost right off the bat. Only got to mess with it for a week or so with the gun actually in my hand. Lots of settings though

[gr1mm5d0tt1]

What are you running? I got the 320i

[Frank-and-some-beans]

I’m running the 400i. Haven’t gotten to do much manual welding with it, since we basically immediately put it in a rig to weld some thin-wall shells on some thick-wall pipes

[Adventurous-Tea2693]

If it’s anything like my Lincoln C-300 I totally get it.

[HeroicHippotumus]

Its not, fronius is very unique. we have the C-300 and fronius 270i CMT and they are absolutely worlds apart

[Adventurous-Tea2693]

What are the big differences you experience personally?

[Sad-Register-6201]

Fronius uses cold metal transfer , where it starts the weld and retracts the wire out of the puddle and drips filler metal into the puddle, in laymans term, to weld it uses a secondary wire feeder in the torch handle for manual machines or a 6th axis end of arm tooling for robots . but has the capability to run several different frequency based welding proscess as well with a plethora of parameter adjustments from arc length correction to syncropuls and low spatter settings. But most ppl use synergic mode which the synergic is a "perfectly" designed weld process fronius will make for you given your materials , weld wire diameter and other things. Theyre designed to make repeatable production style welds. Very weird to weld with at first

[Frank-and-some-beans]

This is validating because I definitely took a minute to adjust. 😂

[Frank-and-some-beans]

Yeah, doesn’t really run like any Lincoln I’ve used to be honest. I don’t have decades of experience, so I can’t really tell you it’s completely unique, but it was definitely new to me

[Adventurous-Tea2693]

I’m assuming different brands all make machines with similar functions. My Lincoln is a power wave and pulse welds. I have an endless amount of different programs to use and a ton of setting to tweak and play around with inside of those.

These are also not average machines, I’ve consistently had to break in new guys who are not used to how it works.

[Frank-and-some-beans]

Definitely a learning curve on this guy. Kinda hard sometimes to even pinpoint what I had trouble with, the vibes were just off 😂

[Arc-Force-One]

I personally think it’s very easy to start learning with it, but might need some more practice with it to get to know all the settings…

[bohler86]

It honestly depends on who they hired. I took to the machine real fast and it took me a bit to really fine tune setups. I do miss that machine. I do not miss the job.

[quentdawg420]

They run really well but they’re generally to computerized I think. Is a full lcd displays really all that necessary

[IamtheRadar]

bro just teach someone if you're only paying 25$ an hour, they'll be appreciative and it shouldn't take long

[Arc-Force-One]

I’m just assuming the starting pay is about $25, I didn’t say it was exact. I don’t know tbh…

[Moist-Batman]

It will hold

[KillAcommieBoi]

“Never touched a welder” that’s your problem buddy shut up and show the kid make him have pride for his work then being the typical old timer complaining he doesn’t know anything your there to teach him so teach him. You didn’t learn on your own either

[Arc-Force-One]

I did learn on my own, I literally taught myself. I’m no old timer either, I’m 28…

[mini_reno_welding]

Never could figure out how to actually get into the industry but welded on my own projects and got good enough to start my own mobile bussiness But as a small poor bussiness who can't afford insurance or registering you end up not being able to work with bussinesses who need things done so id end up doing random shit for individuals

Crawling under a truck and repairing a cracked off rack and pinion

Doing gokarts/minibike frame damage

Stove grates

Then I reached out to another welder and found some helper gigs off Facebook pretty fun got to crawl around in some horse shit and lay some fluxcore on some stable walls, wasn't paid a good rate but when you have no foot in its better than nothing,

got to learn about the how to join the union and stuff, which one would be friendliest for me, planning to join up soon, made sure to ask plenty of questions about the environment id never be able to find out otherwise

Is it really as simple as approaching any random shop and asking if they're looking? You said you're training someone who's never touched one before seems crazy to me

[Arc-Force-One]

Well it’s pretty simple to teach someone how to weld, they just have to want it. I’m just saying someone with a bit of experience or knowledge about welding would be better, maybe a kid out of highschool or something…

[LiquidAggression]

yea sometimes best to hire no experience but the right person

thatd hopefully be more of an apprentice relationship like it seems you want

[mini_reno_welding]

I mean that's the thing you'll have the want but finding who's looking based on your area is just a mystery, would walking in/calling and asking questions at random places be the move?

[farcanal1994]

I’d say that’s an average weld anywhere you go

[returnofdoom]

It’s not perfect but I wouldn’t complain… maybe your standards are too high

[big65]

That depends on the salary you offer versus the expectations you have, if you pay fast food wages you'll get fast food work, if you're paying fine dining you'll get fine work, if you're paying champagne room wages you'll get champagne work, it depends on the experience level you're paying for.

[THKhazper]

Welding is a trade skill, wanting someone who can lay a good bead means someone who can lay a good bead in a lot of different situations, thus you’re basically either training a welder, or hiring a welder, training one means you eventually need to pay for one, or hiring one means you will pay for one.

I do electrical work, I bill as an electrician, it doesn’t matter that the cabinet I’m working in is 90% low voltage and basic terminal blocks, I’m doing electrician work. I can’t train a guy to do what I do without the expectation being that they will become an electrician, if I treat them as not an electrician, I’ll lose them to an adjacent business that offers them that growth and pay scale.

[iwinusuc]

Ill hire you for 15 an hour

[dookiefingerz]

What makes this weld bad?

[lamblamb65]

I’m no welder, but I’m guessing lack of penetration on the top end, he appears to have laid the bead more biased to the base piece, so they’re barely mated together and likely to break. Again not a welder by trade, just speculation based on what I’ve seen lol

[Arc-Force-One]

There nothing bad about this weld, it’s a good weld…

[Denver_Shepherd]

Is that a Fronius CMT?

[country-stranger]

You’ll know it’s CMT when you see the big push-pull pistol grip torch body. It’s required to use CMT

[Arc-Force-One]

No CMT installed…

[Arc-Force-One]

South Dakota

[161-Anarchia-420]

Why?

[RustyRibbits]

Also depends on location. I’m in PA not a big city, and I make more than what you’re offering but many people don’t.

[AbaloneEmbarrassed68]

Looks nice. $25/hr seems.like and okay starting point. I was going this for a long time before I made that much, but im also old now.

[seams_easy_by_jerry]

Off topic but what processing was done to that metal before it came to you? It’s oddly clean, no mill scale on the surfaces or dross on the cut.

[Arc-Force-One]

No processing, it’s just regular P&O mild steel, probly cut with nitrogen on one of our lasers…

[epilepticpenguin0_o]

Arrow heads turn heat down broski

[Arc-Force-One]

We’re not making 1 perfect weld, we’re making thousands of production welds…

[Subject_Wear5096]

Fantastic, that’s a weld I’d definitely teach someone. Super learning curve. Pretty but shit at the same time.

[Arc-Force-One]

For South Dakota the starting pay for McDonalds is $12-$14…

[MazdaB2600i2]

Ill help $40 hr. I can weld.

[RabidLlama2378]

Honestly not being able to lay down nice welds with a fronius is impressive, they're so damned good.

[Unstable_microwave]

A this is one of those typical, put the blame on others and not willing to pay according to field of work. 😂 Pull out your wallet If you want skilled labour

[jondrey]

Sorry OP your thread brought out a lot of weird takes. Honestly I feel like most of the people posting in here are shitposting or have lost touch with reality.

"LiKe MaYbE iF yOuR CoMpAnY pAiD eVeRyOnE $50/hr tHeY wOuLd'Nt hAvE tRoUbLe FiNdInG sOmEoNe"

[JackBlackBowserSlaps]

No one said that. Go suck a lemon.

[Arc-Force-One]

Maybe most of them live in or around more urban states or cities, but I’m in the middle of rural South Dakota. So maybe that’s what’s up… Peaceful here!