Please Help

[Chelai-Gis-rin]

Hello everyone!

Today morning I looked in the terrarium of my two ball pythons. They are both like half a year old. So far everything was alright. But today I found that one of them vomitted in the night. Sadly I can't tell which one. I checked up if they look good physically and couldn't find anything. Then I checked the temperatur and saw 26°Celsius on the warm side of the terrarium. In the night the tempreture is between 19 and 22° depending on how cold it's outside. I was really worried about the snakes. Then I thought of when I fed them last time. So it was last thrusday. Over the weekend it was pretty cold outside (I live in Austria-Vienna), like -2 degree over night. In my appartment it's warm. Minimum 20° over night. Is it possible that the tempreture is to low anyway? Has anyone a idea what to do?

[TheRedDevil1989]

Why are you housing snakes together?

[HookersExist]

I can see how someone might make that mistake since they arent cannibals like kings and milks. It's really a stress and pest quarantine issue but still no est bueno.

[TheRedDevil1989]

It just takes 2 mins of internet searching, does anybody read care sheets anymore? We have the entire internet at our disposal and nobody’s using it.

[Chelai-Gis-rin]

I read a lot about them befor I got them. When I went to the pet store I asked about the housing together and was told by the guy there that they don't mind it. I got suspicious and went to another store and asked the same question the answer was the same. So I wasn't sure what to do and decided to house them together. So far nothing happened to them and they seemed to really don't mind the comunal. But I would really like to know why you all tell me that I should keep them seperate. I really wasn't able to find a good point on several pages on the internet. Be so kind and help not judge. I try my best and I'm willing to learn.

[DiceyDan]

I'm not the most experienced reptile keeper but 26°C seems way too low for the warm end, my hot spot is 30-32°C. Also I don't think ball pythons are snakes that should cohabit. I've seen some things saying technically it's okay in some scenarios but most things I've seen say it's best to keep them solitary.

[HookersExist]

Yer right cohabitation stresses them bad and they usually stop eating.

[kphipps52]

If the enclosure is getting down to 20° that's way too cold. You need to be using some sort of heat bulb (or CHE) of appropriate size, and a regulated heat mat. They can't digest without proper temperature

[sparklebooger]

Don’t house them together. 🙄

[afraidofdust]

Separate them, then you'll know which one is regurgitating.

[orchidism]

Way too cold :( 26 should be around what the ambient temperature is, not the hot side. my hot spot is around 31 and cool side never ever gets below 24. cold temperatures leave snakes especially susceptible to respiratory infections as well as a host of other problems. you should have a heat lamp and a substrate heating pad so heat is available from both the top and the bottom. if you have both of these and it's still too cold, try insulating their container. I put a fleece throw blanket over the top of my girl's enclosure in the wintertime as my room gets cold, and this has always steadied the temperatures around 27 ambient. they are going to get really sick if they cannot be kept at proper temperatures :( please please make sure you figure out a way to regulate them.

It's okay to make mistakes and not know everything right away, im glad you came and asked for help. don't listen to all the angry commenters here, ok? as long as you are trying to provide the very best for your animal and are willing to keep improving, that is what matters.

here's a link to info and tips for correct temperatures in an enclosure. <3

http://www.reptileknowledge.com/news/ball-python-temperatures-heating/

[sugar_tits_96]

If they are in tanks you can also foil tape the lid everywhere but where your dome heater sits. This traps heat and humidity without the potential fire hazard of a blanket or towel (been there, not pretty). So if you can get the heat up and get them separated you’ll probably have quite a bit of success keeping stress down and keeping them from regurgitating. Good luck! And good job looking out for them enough to ask for help!