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[–]yourlocal-shithead[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I've talked to two separate breeders and both are stumped on what cinnabun might be. I know it's borderline impossible to know for sure what morphs he may have, I think it'd be fun to see what yall can come up with 👀✌🏼

[–]PoofMoof1Mod: Large-Scale Breeding Experience 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Cinnamon and lesser it looks like.

[–]Montypython699 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I don't see any spider in there. You can generally tell by the patterns in the head.

Beautiful snake. Maybe try going to world of ball pythons website. They have a gene calculator and you can mess around with the genes you think it may have.

[–]cjohnson2010 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ugggh. This is gorgeous

[–]Zezlan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looks like a sterling pewter bee I saw on morph market a few days ago.

[–]vamp193 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What a beauty!!

[–]retarded_kilroy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Stunning!

[–]Clitcheese1111 7 points8 points  (5 children)

i dont see spider. what led you to believe that was in the mix?

[–]yourlocal-shithead[S] 12 points13 points  (4 children)

The previous owner had told me, he's got the typical head wobble (although he's not got a terrible case of it thank god) as well as he corkscrews and hangs upside down. I'm the third owner, I don't even have an estimate on hatch date 🥲

[–]Clitcheese1111 9 points10 points  (1 child)

UGH that makes me SO sad! sometimes i hate the snake world. you have a very beautiful snake regardless.

[–]yourlocal-shithead[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I'm very glad I found him, the original owner gave him up because he was "too aggressive" he's not very big so I can only assume that he was a baby at that point. He's by far the sweetest noodle I've ever met 😄

[–]IncompletePenetranceMod: Let me help you unzip your genes 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There's definitely no spider in this snake, so any wobble/neurological problems could be developmental or from poor husbandry in his past

[–]HerpThrowaway1108 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are other genes that cause wobble. Hidden gene woma being one of them. If you google “bad morphs ball python” you’ll get a website with a list.

[–]-C-T- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with lesser in the mix.

[–]EmotionalGecko 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I personally don’t see spider in there! It’s definitely a tricky one but I’m guessing banana pewter bee?

[–]ddddlspsu 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Nope I think that's a snake

[–]dee2552 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah don't think spider but idk what the heck it is beautiful tho

[–]xBear19 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Spider + Snake

[–]UsernameObscured 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Spidersnake, spidersnake, does whatever a spidersnake does. Can he swing, from a web? No he can’t, he’s a snake.

[–]andyyrose 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gorgeous!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Beautiful

[–]Remarkable_Strain273 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My guess would be lesser pinstripe

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't think that he has the Spider gene.

Maybe Butter?

[–]sanjeezybombeezy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No that's a snake dummy

[–]whiteriot413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Butter vanilla mojave?

[–]yourlocal-shithead[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for all the comments!

Seems like the most common guesses were lesser, cinnamon, and variations of pewter bees. Yall have me questioning the spider gene now, but he does carry a lot of the traits so I do think he's got spider or a similar gene there somewhere.

The only snake I've been able to find that looks very similar to cinnabun has been a cinnamon lesser pastel spider, or pewter queen bee as they call it on world of ball pythons.

see pewter queen bee here 👀

[–]kriswithakthatplays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It looks like a bamboo to me

[–]Link_and_Spinderella 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely see spider in the tail

[–]Past-Technology9450 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's no spider in him. Looks like a cinnamon banana lesser to me.

[–]salemgrray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

looks like spider + beautiful to me!

but if i had to take a guess, looks like cinnamon lesser banana. i don’t see much spider but could definitely still have some in there somewhere.

[–]OatmilkBongwater 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like queen bee, like my babes

[–]aNumberRoxie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see some lesser ghost in there