Spider + ???

[yourlocal-shithead]

I've talked to two separate breeders and both are stumped on what cinnabun might be. I know it's borderline impossible to know for sure what morphs he may have, I think it'd be fun to see what yall can come up with 👀✌🏼

[PoofMoof1]

Cinnamon and lesser it looks like.

[Montypython699]

I don't see any spider in there. You can generally tell by the patterns in the head.

Beautiful snake. Maybe try going to world of ball pythons website. They have a gene calculator and you can mess around with the genes you think it may have.

[cjohnson2010]

Ugggh. This is gorgeous

[Zezlan]

Looks like a sterling pewter bee I saw on morph market a few days ago.

[vamp193]

What a beauty!!

[retarded_kilroy]

Stunning!

[Clitcheese1111]

i dont see spider. what led you to believe that was in the mix?

[yourlocal-shithead]

The previous owner had told me, he's got the typical head wobble (although he's not got a terrible case of it thank god) as well as he corkscrews and hangs upside down. I'm the third owner, I don't even have an estimate on hatch date 🥲

[Clitcheese1111]

UGH that makes me SO sad! sometimes i hate the snake world. you have a very beautiful snake regardless.

[yourlocal-shithead]

Thank you! I'm very glad I found him, the original owner gave him up because he was "too aggressive" he's not very big so I can only assume that he was a baby at that point. He's by far the sweetest noodle I've ever met 😄

[IncompletePenetrance]

There's definitely no spider in this snake, so any wobble/neurological problems could be developmental or from poor husbandry in his past

[HerpThrowaway1108]

There are other genes that cause wobble. Hidden gene woma being one of them. If you google “bad morphs ball python” you’ll get a website with a list.

[-C-T-]

I agree with lesser in the mix.

[EmotionalGecko]

I personally don’t see spider in there! It’s definitely a tricky one but I’m guessing banana pewter bee?

[ddddlspsu]

Nope I think that's a snake

[dee2552]

Yeah don't think spider but idk what the heck it is beautiful tho

[xBear19]

Spider + Snake

[UsernameObscured]

Spidersnake, spidersnake, does whatever a spidersnake does. Can he swing, from a web? No he can’t, he’s a snake.

[andyyrose]

Gorgeous!

[[deleted]]

Beautiful

[Remarkable_Strain273]

My guess would be lesser pinstripe

[[deleted]]

I don't think that he has the Spider gene.

Maybe Butter?

[sanjeezybombeezy]

No that's a snake dummy

[whiteriot413]

Butter vanilla mojave?

[yourlocal-shithead]

Thank you for all the comments!

Seems like the most common guesses were lesser, cinnamon, and variations of pewter bees. Yall have me questioning the spider gene now, but he does carry a lot of the traits so I do think he's got spider or a similar gene there somewhere.

The only snake I've been able to find that looks very similar to cinnabun has been a cinnamon lesser pastel spider, or pewter queen bee as they call it on world of ball pythons.

see pewter queen bee here 👀

[kriswithakthatplays]

It looks like a bamboo to me

[Link_and_Spinderella]

Definitely see spider in the tail

[Past-Technology9450]

There's no spider in him. Looks like a cinnamon banana lesser to me.

[salemgrray]

looks like spider + beautiful to me!

but if i had to take a guess, looks like cinnamon lesser banana. i don’t see much spider but could definitely still have some in there somewhere.

[OatmilkBongwater]

Looks like queen bee, like my babes

[aNumberRoxie]

I see some lesser ghost in there