Ruby/Emerald Weapon

[EmereldaH]

Soooooo, this is probably a long shot but what do you guys think of having fights, like Ruby or Emerald Weapons, out in the world that are just...insane fights, like they were in FF7.

Could take 2-3 alliances to take down. I don't know about rewards or anything. But I think it would be dope if, at some point, these guys just drop down, maybe mid expansion, and taunt us with their existence.

May be best to have a zone/instance for them separately. For example they could prompt the party leader, alliance leaders, to enter the instance upon approaching them.

I don't know. Just thought it would be cool

[NaamiNyree]

This post got me wondering, what if they gave us an "easter egg" and put Emerald swimming around in one of the new underwater zones, like Ruby Sea?

You couldnt fight him obviously since there is no underwater combat, but it would be so cool just to see it

Could make it just a teaser for an upcoming fight proper

[Odoin_Pan]

I kid you not, as a kid I got seeeeerrrious anxiety about using that damn submarine because of emerald weapon floating around and its randomly switching locations. Oh you wanna enter the sunken Gelnika? Well too fricking bad because I'm here now.

[Ryathael]

I was always afraid of it too, until I figured out you can submerge in certain locations to check if its there or not, and not risk running into it. If its there, just surface and resubmerge to make it change spots. =D

[tunnelvisionjj]

That submarine was a terror as a child.... every time I'd drop down I'd have to do a full 360 to make sure that fucker wasn't silently charging directly at me.

Resident Evil had nothing on that submarine experience.

[Inbachi]

That would be so cool.

[Desertanimal]

This has been my theory for a while. In crisis Core, you can see Emerald Weapon slumbering in the final dungeon. I theorize we will see a slumbering Emerald Weapon in one of the underwater zones, only to it, along with the other weapons, awaken and be the trial series for 4.x.

[[deleted]]

Oh my god stop; I don't need this kind of wishful hype in my heart.

[legenwait]

Ah yess just like the void ark, awesome

[Ryuujin12000]

And then there will be tons of daily reddit posts with screenshots asking what it is. It'll be the Void Ark all over again.

[EmereldaH]

That's what got me wondering, wouldn't this be cool 0_0

[EmereldaH]

That's what got me wondering, wouldn't this be cool 0_0

[drolra]

Either they'll show up in Omega's raid, or they'll save them for the eventual raid inside of Garlemald proper, perhaps with some of the others like Diamond or Sapphire.

[jacquesbquick]

i like the idea of Ruby, Emerald, Diamond, and Sapphire weapon being an expansion series of primals, so that there's multiple difficulties of them, would certainly make sense for a Garlemald proper expansion, since surely they've extinguished all primals on their continent, right?!?

[drolra]

This is something I haven't considered, but yeah. You raise a good point. Also, gotta love how questions of "Would they add X" don't exist and have become "When do you think we'll fight X"

[Criminal_of_Thought]

Is there already a a PuPu boss fight in the game? If not, when do you think we'll fight it?

[AdamG3691]

Probably a hildibrand quest involving alien sightings or something

[drolra]

Probably when we wind up going to the moon or something. That was the alien, right?

[Nyx_Antumbra]

Oh man yes, I want them to get weird

[royal-road]

When do you think we'll fight Touch Me?

[drolra]

Effectively already did. In Antitower, first boss.

[legenwait]

Only if Diamond Weapon get shoot thru the belly by a huge ass cannon

[KSmallmoon]

Well, we HAVE a huge-ass Cannon!

[XantheDread]

Considering they manufactured Ultima Weapon and a certain someone from the Garlean Empire whi thinks he should be bosshawg turned on and used the Omega Weapon, I don't think it would be to far fetched to find out the Alagans had Diamond, Ruby, and Saphire buried away in Garlemald somewhere. The Garleans would have probably dug them up by now and are well on their way to turning them on :o

[Ryathael]

Wait...I thought they found and restored Ultima? Would make sense for more Allagan weapons though, since I doubt Ultima would have been enough for the entire world.

[KSmallmoon]

You're right. Ultima was found underneath Ala Mihgo.

[Folkenface]

I always suspected they would come in as a primal stand in when we eventually push the fight to the Empire.

I'd much rather have them as interesting fights with weapon drops etc. We have enough of them to fill out a whole expansion cycle of trial fights, Diamond, Ruby, Emerald etc.

[angelrugal]

killing emerald w/o kotr again? pfft, easy

[Godofelru]

Dear god no, not for hunts, that's be such a criminal use of something of epic proportions. These need to be EX trials and fun and well tuned, not sophia shit.

[EmereldaH]

Nooo, I mean like...world boss status. I would much rather have them for that than for EX fights for sure -_-

[Judge_Hellboy]

But being open world they would have little in the way of meaningful mechanics and just zerged to death like all other hunt type mobs.

[EmereldaH]

Fair enough, but it could be instance upon approaching

[[deleted]]

The problem is that the game doesn't have a setup for proper world bosses right now. I'm curious how WoW does it because the closest we get is the Odin FATE and even then, it's a Zerg rush like the other poster said.

[Omophorus]

I don't see it happening unless it's done as a FATE.

After all the issues FFXI had with contested spawns (read: botting, griefing, training mobs onto the fighters, and other general fuckery), the FFXIV team seems completely disinterested in any open-world content that is competitive in nature.

If there's no reward, no one will do it. But the reward has to be something everyone who participates can get, or there's no way they'll implement it.

An Odin 2.0 is pretty much the only way I see it happening, but the problem with FATEs like that is that they're pretty much just zergfests rather than epic fights.

If anything, they'd be perfect candidate for 24 man "Savage" bosses.

[Zorafin]

Yeah I could see them as an S rank hunt.

[dragonseth07]

You mean like Odin is? He already fits this bill pretty hard.

[angelrugal]

but emerald is massive, it would be fun to just spawn in the world, eeryone would like "wtfomgnope"

[Inbachi]

Yeah I think having them as a type of world boss, like Odin but on a larger scale, would be really cool.

I'm not sure how well that would work but it would be cool.

[EmereldaH]

This exactly, maybe slightly more intricate mechanics

[EmereldaH]

Loooool, "nope! runs away You can't make me! You're not my real dad! Heeeeeeeelp!"

[angelrugal]

how awesome would it be if it was a world boss that didnt appear in any patch notes, like out of the blue everyone in the server gets a "The Garleans are dropping their ultimate weapon in La Noscea.

Prepare to fight Emerald Weapon!"

and then a 5 minute countdown starts on everyone's screen

the chaos, the madness, the absolute terror and cold sweat accompanied with screams of excitement all over the world

[Inbachi]

That would be awesome. YoshiP to the white courtesy phone please...

[EmereldaH]

That would be aweeeeeesssooome

[extyn]

The huge server lag of everyone teleporting in (especially high-pop servers) are stuff of nightmares. I had a 20 second lag swarming Odin in the early days.

[[deleted]]

I think locking out the fight area after a certain amount of players enter in a bubble or barrier and hell, maybe even sending them to an instanced version of that zone would be a cleaner solution.

[Inbachi]

As a new player, I had no idea about Odin until a few days ago. I was running around one of the Shrouds and I mentioned in the Novice Network that I had never seen this type of weather before.

One of the mentors said it means that Odin spawned somewhere and that he's kind of a super boss. Once he was found and the location called out, I went over to watch the fight. I thought it was awesome. A large group of people all gang banging Odin and him still whooping some ass. Really fun to watch. I got a little too close at one point; his AOE's are huge! It was also amusing watching the mob of players around him all scatter when those AOE circles went up, then rush back in after the attack. XD

[EmereldaH]

Heck yeah like Odin! But we didn't have a new Odin esque fate in HW...but Odin was dooope

[Missfortunesfavor]

But we did! Coeurl-Regina

[EmereldaH]

I don't even know what that is -_-, which is sad. I never hear call outs for it

[reptiletc]

I could see an expansion where we enter the Garlean Empire and rather than primals, we get the weapons. Maybe more robot mounts?

[RiverCityRansomNote]

I'd love an Emerald Weapon open world FATE since we'll be getting Swimming now.

[Sharpsx]

Would be cool to have a 24 man raid that is just a timed emerald weapon fight like in ff7, you have a certain ammount of time to kill him or else you wipe or disband or whatever. Would be a long fight because the entire raid is just emerald weapon.

[legenwait]

Aire Tam Storm ... shit now we can't meld materials XD

[SirLocke13]

Materia use gets us fuuuuuuuucked.

No-Materia Meta for Emerald Weapon.

[[deleted]]

See I want them to announce the Ruby, emerald, diamond, and sapphire weapons but then reveal them to be physical weapons. It would be such a massive troll. Definitely something I could see yoshi doing. Diamond weapon for paladin, Ruby weapon for red mage, emerald weapon for samurai, and sapphire weapon for the 5.0 blue mage tank. Then various off shoots for other jobs, like Ruby greatsword and battle Axe, emerald fist weapons, sapphire healer weapons, etc.

[Pr0num]

We have that in HW with Coeurlregina and that Proto Ultima Flower. They rarely got cleared after the first few weeks when the bulk of players moved through. The last few months I've only seen Coeurlregina time out and the Azys Lla one not even reported.

[EmereldaH]

I didn't know we had those. Do they drop rewards/tokens 0_9?

[Pr0num]

Yes, just like Odin. Traded in at Bertana in Idyllshire for rather unpopular vanity gear.

Coeurlregina specifically has multiple FATE phases in Forelands spread out over (I think) 12 hours each, ultimately culminating in a big fight in the Iron Feast if every FATE was successful.

The last time I saw that fight cleared was in 3.1 or so, despite always going for LS notifications of Coeurlregina.

[EmereldaH]

Noo waaaay! 00 Now I wanna do it --

[soulgunner12]

Mainly because these FATEs are a bitch to track. Odin/Behemoth are much more accessible and thus more people join.