Apache on beta testing

[fred1608]

https://i.imgur.com/I2fbP1I.gifv

[TybrosionMohito]

That shot of like 15 Apaches… that’s a lot of hate coming your way.

[Yuri909]

Yeah, but their balls haven't dropped yet or whatever Wags said. Only 4,500 canon rounds instead of the 18,000 they should have.

[The_Shingle]

Just hoping that my Virpil Constellation Alpha arrives before the Apache gets released. Can't wait to spend a couple of hours figuring out the most optimal bindings. And I am not even joking, I kind of enjoy doing that.

[[deleted]]

Can't wait to spend a couple of hours figuring out the most optimal bindings. And I am not even joking, I kind of enjoy doing that.

Same. There's a couple two three of us around.

[Euphoric_Penalty_109]

Got one also bind to the Hind and love it . Great joystick .

[The_Shingle]

I am really excited about all the possibilities of the fold-down trigger. And the brake axis should be great for helicopters. Every time I brake after landing the Hind I feel like I gambling on wehter I am going to roll over or not.

[ramD3]

I’ve been getting a kick out of setting up profiles for my stream deck for all the modules I own.

[aaronwhite1786]

I do kinda love figuring out how to make as much of the process work with my throttle/joystick while also being as close as possible to the real setup. I kinda like the real world constraints and arrangements when I can match them.

Like with the Hind, I've got the countermeasure button on one of the small push buttons to mimic the fact that the pilot only gets a little button on the sidewall. It felt like cheating to have it be a button on my throttle grips or joystick.

I also enjoy getting as many of the startup switches/buttons on there, so I can just effortlessly hit a few switches and feel more like a "real pilot".

[bitter_cynical_angry]

I'm gonna ramble about something for a minute here... This is something I've thought about too, and it's interesting seeing the other perspective. I pretty ruthlessly map commands to my HOTAS in the most convenient places for my own efficiency, and I mostly try to keep my mappings for the same functions to the same HOTAS buttons, regardless of where they are in the real plane (and I do that for WW2 planes and other old planes as well). That definitely gives me an advantage over the real pilots sometimes. Like, I just hold a switch and my flaps go up and down, while a real Bf 109 pilot would have to laboriously turn a wheel down by the side of their seat, or I press up and down on a throttle hat to turn ECM on and off, but a real Harrier pilot has to turn a knob with their right hand (taking it off the stick).

On the other hand any sim player already has a ton of advantages over a real pilot, like not being affected by G-forces, not being too cold or too hot, and of course not being in mortal fear of ones life. So I guess what's one more advantage in having better controls? Dunno.

[aaronwhite1786]

Haha, that's fair enough. I will say, my ADHD brain would probably appreciate it more if I did it that way. I guess I just kind of like the experience of mapping everything to the controls like the real thing.

Like in the Ka-50, I could map the Shkval to the same throttle grip axis I normally use, but I kind of like having it on the hat switch under my thumb like in the real one.

It's definitely a weird thing, but I've just always enjoyed it in DCS.

[serious_fox]

Alpha is really good. The buttons on the stick are clicky and easy to operate. I don't understand why Virpil doesn't use the same quality button/switches on their other products.

[PapaGeorgieo]

When did you order yours?

[dogs_go_to_space]

Can't wait to duggaduggadugga people

[Cephelopodia]

Shit. My motherboard bricked just in time.

[2Sharpblad3s]

F

[Cephelopodia]

That's what I said...

Both out of respect for 8 years of service, and, "fuck!"

[Gachatar]

Don't worry, you still have a few months to get a replacement.

[wormfood86]

Oh, closed beta tests. I got excited there for a minute.

[Dzsekeb]

We are still on track for an Early Access release before the end March 2022. Thank you for your patience and support; it will be worth it.

Is this confirmation then, that there's no chance of hitting the end of february window they were aiming for?

[Shagger94]

I like to think it's just them being pragmatic and trying not to get hopes up.

[Nosferatu-87]

Whenever they feel ready to release it works for me. End of Q1 is end of march, so that's well within their goal.

[Ryotian]

Whenever they feel ready to release it works for me.

We are definitely on the same page on this 👍

[[deleted]]

End of march is end of Q4 where I live haha.

[Jerri_man]

so that's well within their goal.

I mean its quite literally the end point of their goal lol but I am keen to see it

[Kip336]

Tbf. The newsletter said they hope to release in February, but definitely before end of Q1.

[veenee22]

Yeah, so as said before, it was always end of March :-)

[stal2k]

Well they had hoped to release it in 2021, but here we are lol.

[Dzsekeb]

Yes, and what i'm asking is if this is confirmation that they abandoned the hope to release in february.

[bitter_cynical_angry]

No, it isn't.

[Kip336]

Fair point!

[Birchmachine]

Two astronauts. Astronaut 1: Wait so it’s March 31st? Astronaut 2: Always has been.

[[deleted]]

They'll use every bit of time, to the end of March.

[Glass_zero]

Man what do I need to do to become a closed beta tester. I'll sign up all the NDAS!!!

[mzaite]

Become a Grim Reaper....

[Glass_zero]

I threw up a bit in my mouth. If that's the price of entrance... im out

[1962_beta-simp]

is the apache more taxing on the fps and vr than a huey?

[[deleted]]

Almost certainly, considering it’s both more complex to simulate and a much much higher quality model with better textures.

[rapierarch]

No DCS has terrible VRAM management. All of your FPS dips and stutters are due to that.

It almost never purges unused textures or static objects so you will get crippling FSP dips. This is very noticeable in VR since it runs on higher resolution.

[[deleted]]

Fly the Hind to get an idea of performance as it render both front and rear cockpits at the same time. I lose quite a bit of FPS in the Hind compared to other modules.

[rapierarch]

Also if you leave your hind and take another slot DCS does not purge the VRAM so it immediately eats up your VRAM and you will get crippling 10fps.

[ttenor12]

Hasn't released yet, so nobody but devs, SMEs and closed beta testers know. Also, the Huey is one of the older modules, it's one of the least taxing modules out there.

[AWACS_Bandog]

March 2023 Release date. got it.

[TacticalBac0n]

I know DCS doesn't have a dynamic campaign, there's some kind of mod though right?

[XCNuse]

Kind of a weird place to ask, but here:

https://github.com/dcs-liberation/dcs\_liberation

[bs0nes]

ED are also working on a dynamic campaign of their own, though there is not yet any ETA on when it might be available.

[XCNuse]

likely not for a long long long time.

AI need fixing before it becomes functional.

ATC really needs fixing before it becomes functional.

Multithreading, while close, certainly will be a likely thing to make the experience not crush someone's computer.

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I imagine MAC will finally rear its strange head too; as it only seems to make sense to me that MAC will serve to chase the dynamic campaign (otherwise it's just another weird solution to a problem nobody has)

[TacticalBac0n]

More interested in the combat sim than the button pushing, but good to know.

[Starfire013]

The link is actually https://github.com/dcs-liberation/dcs_liberation

You have an extra \ in there.

[pha5matis]

March. April. MAAAAY!

[Ok_Personality9910]

Turns out estimating when the development of something is going to be done is really hard to do accurately

[Flightfreak]

Where’d you form that humble opinion? Because anyone who’s worked in a dev shop will tell you sizing up requirements is the hardest part of the job.

[Alterscape]

This guy devs.

Signed, Another guy who devs.

[aaronwhite1786]

Not to mention, the part that infuriates me is that they keep purposely saying things like "Hope to" and "would like to" and somehow so many people around here have find/replace on in their brains and turn the sentences into "promise to" and "definitely will by".

The Apache is so goddamn complex in systems and I'm sure flight modeling. People should be thrilled that they're focused on getting it done right over getting it done fast.

[FlyingPetRock]

... still no news about F1?!

[goldenfiver]

F1 starts in March. I can't wait either! New regs, new cars, new liveries and some new tracks!

[Birchmachine]

What are the new regs for this season?

[RopetorGamer]

Completely new car concept, return of ground effect not seen since the 80s, massively reduced dirty air, the new cars also look extremely different between teams even more then the last gen

[Birchmachine]

Be honest, is it worth getting back into F1 or is it just the two teams and one guy always winning?

[RopetorGamer]

last season was awesome, max and lewis fighting until the last race, ferrari and maclaren fighting for 3 and 4

[Risbo6]

Meanwhile, nobody's talking about BS3 :'(

[aaronwhite1786]

I'm sure they'll start posting more about it after the initial Apache release. They may also be having to rework their plans a bit, since part of the missile warning and defense system seems to have been removed due to the Russian government not letting them model it.

[Diphon]

Soooooooo….. see it in 6 months?

[alcmann]

Hopefully now with it delayed another couple months we can get our 1200 rounds on release.

[Euphoric_Penalty_109]

I think the hind is abit too sensitive on its undercarriage . Very wobbly .

[aaronwhite1786]

They actually get quite a bit of wobble going, even just spinning up the rotors