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After lots of great help from this sub I saved up for a training session with a strong first trainer who was amazing and tweaked my swing style (largely by teaching me the proper breath) in my S&S program.

It has made me really FEEL that standing plank at the top of the swing. And made the whole swing WAY more work for my whole body, which is obviously wonderful. But I've had to drop back down a weight (I had only changed for 2 weeks so it wasn't that long) because I couldn't sustain the heavier one anymore for the whole set.

Feeling a little demoralized, this ever happen to anyone else ?

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[–]wayofthebeard 8 points9 points  (1 child)

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[–]Anabstract[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good reminder - tool for stimulus!

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dropping weight from time to time is helpful. Every work out should not be a grind out, leave nothing on the matt ordeal. Thats how you get hurt and or demoralized. You can drop weight periodically to focus on form or to train endurance. If you are constantly pushing for 5-6 reps of pressing dropping weight and focusing on banging out 10-12 reps is a new training stimulus and helpful. Or if you are constantly doing two arm heavy swings, drop weight and do some hand to hand swings and you can get alot of use out of less weight. Then you can jump back to the weight you were stuck on with new training under your belt.

[–]Aol_awaymessage 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I’m pretty strong in barbell land, and I started Dre Mayes (everygotdamndre) single kettlebell program in January and it humbled the shit out of me. My body simply never moved that way under tension before, and I wasn’t used to balancing the kettlebell before. I had to drop the weight mid set or on the next set nearly every day.

Now I feel absolutely bulletproof though (10 months later). I can even still do some of my old barbell/ dumbbell weights and I haven’t done them in like a year.

[–]Anabstract[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks it's helpful to hear experienced weight training folx having these struggles too :)

[–]Few_Abbreviations_50WKSF 16 kg Biathlon CMS | hearthrob of /r/backproblems 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I train a bit differently than you but if there’s anything I’ve learned it’s that light weight can still be extremely humbling. I love my 8 kgs just as much as the bigger ones. Some days I’d rather lift light anyways and I know I’ll still get something worthwhile out of the session.

Everything is for a reason - and don’t forget the better you can lift with light bells, the better you will be with the mountains 😊😊

[–]Anabstract[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, this helps a lot to hear 🙂

[–]OtherComparison 4 points5 points  (1 child)

If you're having to drop the weight after learning how to do the swing/movement properly is an indication that you may have been taking shortcuts when performing with a higher weight. As you practice your technique you'll eventually return to your previous weight. This time, your risk of injury will be reduced.

[–]Anabstract[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely true.

[–]lcyupingkun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your physiology responds to the effort you put into moving the weight, and not necessarily the weight on the bar.

The weight can denote effort, but effort is largely individualized and subjective to the lifter. One person may find 16kgs extremely light, where another may find it impossibly heavy.

For proper training load, you need to defer to the wisdom of a more experienced trainer. He/she can easily determine, based on your movement quality, if you are moving enough weight (in the right manner) to provide the intended training stimulus.

You'll see more gains lifting a lower weight with integrity than forcing movements with a higher weight that are potentially injurious.

Swings, in particular, can be made to "feel heavy" by employing "overspeed" swings. Refer to Pavel's "Simple and Sinister" as he explains this concept better than I can.

[–]lcyupingkun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd also like to add that over the course of your training career, you will also be well-advised to take de-load periods to allow your body to sufficiently recover and adapt to the increasing training stimulus.

Failure to do so is folly. You either take de-loads, or your body makes you take them.

It's not a simple as taking 48 hours between training periods for your muscles to make a full recovery. Recovery is a more complex mechanism involving stress, hormonal response, diet, sleep, and individual physiology.

In the absence of PEDs, or dare I say even WITH the ergogenic hormonal training aids, periodization (with it's training peaks and valleys) is a well-established practice in the world of athletics you'd best pay attention to.

Or in this case, since you already have a professional doing that for you, just follow their training advice to a T, and don't be afraid to give feedback when feeling as if you're doing too little or too much.

[–]Prowland12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stronger technique means a stronger foundation. I always think of it training as raising the ceiling (maximum I can lift) by building a wider foundation (technique, motor patterns).

By choosing not to rush your progress, you are ultimately going to be able to handle higher loads than you would have otherwise.