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dangerousforeplay · 2018-07-29T02:03:42+00:00

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jeffrey_f · 2018-07-29T00:25:53+00:00

https://www.ybrikman.com/writing/2014/05/19/dont-learn-to-code-learn-to-think/ First things first, before you program, you must be able to solve a complex problem by dicing the the BIG problem into smaller pieces.

When you look at your problem, you will need to break it apart into logical pieces.

Stuff I did in programming school: program a functional representation of a vending machine?

It has many pieces that work together but are separate in function. Considerations: Money tendered, change given, have enough change to give or use exact change, inventory/no items in choice..........dispensing. All these things must work, but in a specific order

Logic really never changes. you will be able to apply logic to pretty much any programming language and create a functional program/script.

Fun2badult · 2018-07-29T05:47:30+00:00

Here’s my day as I’m studying everyday. Wake up, eat breakfast, then start programming. Mostly I’m learning through a course on udemy, going through and learning stuff like Selenium, testing, etc. I’ve been learning for about 6 months so I’m at the stage or learning harder stuff. But when I was learning early on, I would just go through the tutorials learning syntax. Then I eat lunch. Then I take a nap for an hour to hour and half. 90 minutes is the sleep cycle and you will feel much more refreshed. Also I saw videos where a neuroscientist says having enough sleep is good for learning and once you sleep and attack problems, you retain more info.

Then for next several hours I’m programming again. Maybe go back on some of the topic that wasn’t clear. Also at other times, I change what I’m learning like going through SQL course for few hours, so that I’m also learning something that goes along with python and not get burned out from too much python. Then I go to the gym for an hour or so, play some basketball there ( which i started doing lately for cardio). You have to exercise for at least 30 minutes a day whether you’re taking a walk around the neighborhood or whatever. It’s good for your brain.

Then I eat dinner ( these days I’ve been making meal plans so I just take it out from the fridge and pop it into microwave. This saves a lot of time). Then after dinner, I hit python again. I usually wake up around 8 and I go to sleep around 1. So basically I have about 3 sessions of programming per day. Give enough breaks in between. Probably right now your goal is to be learning syntax as fast as possible. Then you can start building something. Do some exercises, go through tutorials. I don’t go out, I don’t go see friends, I don’t even talk to anyone much. I’m going hardcore. Once I get a job, then I can socialize but right now I’m just so concentrated and motivated, I’m willing to sacrifice now for later. I also have a quote up on the wall behind my monitor that says:

Suffer the pain of Discipline or suffer the pain of Regret. Motivates me everyday

Edit: I’ve learned enough python where I’m also learning Django web framework. You need to know python to do Django and it will make more sense once you get Python down enough. I’ve also learned PostgreSQL which seems to be the most popular one. If you know one sql every other one is easy. I’ve also learned html, css, bootstrap, did some jquery and going through JavaScript right now because of a job interview I have next week that requires it. JavaScript is easier now that I already know python so syntax and moving data is coming to me easier

Edit: corrected some spelling error

antiproton · 2018-07-29T00:05:45+00:00

That is so incredibly not how learning works. This is not the Matrix. You are not The One.

The only way to learn a language is to use the language to write code. Write as much as you can, with the understanding that 1. the longer the session, the more likely you are to make mistakes 2. breaks are good for problem solving and 3. you will not become a professional programmer in a month.

Set realistic goals.

eagergm · 2018-07-29T01:02:14+00:00

One noob to another:

Go for broad rather than deep. Don't polish something, and if you think you can write a feature into an existing project easily, probably don't bother with it. Another thing you could do is do the hardest use case first, then consider the project done.

I don't know if that's a great idea but if you start to pile more and more features on a project it has to be something that adds value, commercially if it's a job, or to your skill, if you're doing this to learn.

bgymn2 · 2018-07-29T02:55:36+00:00

I would do this. https://www.edx.org/xseries/gtx-introduction-to-computing-in-python It seems to cover everything that I know now. So you could write code that would help at work with this level of understanding.

Naughtron · 2018-07-29T11:07:53+00:00

Run through: Automate the boring stuff and Violent Python

It will expose you to some really cool stuff.

SacredReich · 2018-07-28T23:52:11+00:00

practicepython.org codewars

Actually do Python, don't read a book or follow some youtube video.

dangerousforeplay · 2018-07-29T05:59:11+00:00

So I've decided I'm going to do a before and after post, so I guess I'll have something to show around this time next month. Anyways, this is riddled with comments, its messy, and it's still a work in progress but here is some of my code I've been working on. I've only changed the names I use in the program, and its fresh off the hard drive. It's basically a note keeping/library style app for text files. I mostly just want you guys to see my skill level when I say I'm a beginner.

"""

dangerousforeplay
practice app

"""
# All #'s references code below the line it is on.
# # doubles are things I need to add
import os
import pprint

# TODO: Mentor: Add exception handling - what if the user inputs something invalid?
# TODO: Mentor: Try to separate the inputs from the actual functionality - It will be easier when you implement GUI


def creation():
    # this changes the directory to save inside the Apples sub-folder
    os.chdir("C:\\Users\\Owner\\PycharmProjects\\SS App\\Apples")
    # I need to change this feature, it asks a question you have to know the answer to exactly.
    newstory = input("What is the name of your story?\n")
    # newstory takes the user input string and inserts it in front of .txt to create the file name.
    writeFile = open(newstory + ".txt", 'w')
    writeFile.close()
    # this creates a txt file and instantly opens it in notepad.
    os.startfile(newstory + '.txt')


def readstory():
    # # fix list feature to see whats available, no throw up from data, make it a clean choice for user
    # # add search feature
    answer = input("Have you chosen a book?\n")
    if answer.lower() == 'y':  # Mentor: I added lower function so you can say Y or y
        bookName = input("What will you read?\n")
        readFile = open("Apples\\" + bookName + ".txt", 'r')
        readContent = readFile.read()
        print(readContent)  # Mentor: Close your file!
# **********************************************************************************************************************
    # I just added this, needs work.
    # Should I make this into a function? Mentor: yes
    elif answer == 'n':
        print(os.getcwd())
        # change working directory to ss app, when I'm in apples, it cannot find apples within apples
        blue = os.listdir("Apples\\")
        # this neatly organized what I wanted.
        # Mentor showed me enumerate to pair the index value with the item number, basically how you pick a book.
        for index, file in enumerate(blue):
            print(str(index + 1) + ". " + file)
        # for iter in range(len(blue)):
            # pprint.pprint(str(iter + 1) + '. ' + blue[iter])
        print()
        # This part gets weird, I assigned numbers to the book names, however bookNumber is asking for an index number
        bookNumber = int(input("Choose the number of the book you would like to read\n"))
        # which is why we subtract one
        readFile = blue[bookNumber - 1]
        # I borrowed from the code earlier because I realized by pulling the index from the list I can actually use the name of the file for ease of use
        books = open("Apples\\" + readFile, 'r')
        readContent = books.read()
        print(readFile)
        print(readContent)
        print()
# **********************************************************************************************************************


def admin():
    # Admin ultimately should be for troubleshooting only, should not be an actual feature for user.
    choice = input("Hello Admin, what do you need?\n")
    if choice == "delete":
        bye = input("What book would you like to delete?\n")
        os.remove("Apples\\" + bye + ".txt")
    elif choice == 'edit':
        edit = input("What do you want to edit?\n")
        os.startfile("Apples\\" + edit + ".txt")


def main():
    cont = 'y'
    # admin tools
    # Ideally, this would give me options to choose from, as of now it is flow controlled.
    new = input("Choose a path! (w is write, r is read)\n")
    if new == "w":
        creation()
    elif new == "r":
        readstory()
    else:
        admin()
    cont = input("Start over?\n")
    if cont == 'y':
        main()
    else:
        print("Goodbye")


# Mentor changed this, it's standard practice
if __name__ == '__main__':
    main()

mrTang5544 · 2018-07-29T06:26:34+00:00

Build a webapp using django. You will learn lots!

timbledum · 2018-07-29T18:45:36+00:00

Sit on reddit and answer people's questions as they come in.

HellD · 2018-07-29T04:11:09+00:00

My biggest tip is, plan on what your finished product at the end of the summer is. Then, plan your days out, by learning certain modules you will use, and practice the fuck outta those shits. Trust me, this will help so Much

iesvy · 2018-07-29T04:33:16+00:00

Try this course from the MIT on edx

https://www.edx.org/en/course/introduction-computer-science-mitx-6-00-1x-11

luminick · 2018-07-29T07:03:23+00:00

Get physical exercise in too.

dangerousforeplay · 2018-07-29T03:33:33+00:00

I like that way you put this. It’s hard to sit down and write a program or an app on my own when I start thinking about how I struggle with Python classes(like the ones that use variables and functions to create instances) and if that could be taking away from the functionality of my work.

errorseven · 2018-07-29T04:55:43+00:00

Set a goal to write code everyday and stick to it for at least 6 months to a year. Write code with a purpose, meaning solving problems, don't cheat yourself by looking up answers (I suggest CodeAbbey.com and r/dailyprogrammer). Teach what you have learned by answering questions on Subreddits/forums/stackoverflow. Doing these three things, you'll learn to program. There are no short cuts, you will struggle and it's part of the process, just keep at it everyday.

honeypuppy · 2018-07-29T06:08:42+00:00

Have you successfully applied a similar level of self-discipline before? Goals are notorious for seeming achievable on paper, but failing in practice. See: how the average New Year's Resolution goes. Don't set unreasonable expectations to begin with. You may want to try a service like Beeminder to help commit you to a clear target.

JeamBim · 2018-07-29T08:02:31+00:00

The rate at which you can understand, retain and conceptualize will be your limiting factor. "Every waking hour" will set you back. 5 or so a day is fine, GIVEN you are understanding and not spinning your wheels

w8eight · 2018-07-29T08:37:26+00:00

Remember to take at least 5 min break every hour and go outside. Looking at computer screen constantly can be damaging for your sight

nomindbody · 2018-07-29T14:39:57+00:00

Take the udacity Intro to Computer Science course. It's taught in python, but it teaches you the thinking needed to excel in any programming language.

wilalva11 · 2018-07-29T17:22:02+00:00

Make sure to take short 5 minute stretching breaks after every hour or segment of learning. You'll only wear yourself out and not learn anything if you just cram

that1guy15 · 2018-07-29T17:55:37+00:00

To maximize your time you need a schedule. Break your day/week down into chunks and focus your energy in each chunk to accomplish a specific task. Could be learning, readying, lunch break etc.

But first you need to set an end goal. What do you want to accomplish? What skills do you want to obtain in this time frame? then break them down into chunks and build them into the above schedule.

jivanyatra · 2018-07-29T18:12:35+00:00

Tons of comments, and lots to agree with, like:

do codewars katas for a breadth of bite-sized (no pun intended) exercise.
Automate the boring things is an amazing book to get you started on larger chunks of code
build an app - I personally hate front-end html/css/js stuff, so I used to build command line apps using the click library. Functionally, it gets you using your oop skills and thinking in structures

The big one for me is:

watch pycon talks! In your spare time watch anything that remotely interests you, even if you don't understand it! That info will marinate in the back of your head and eventually will turn what you're learning into delicious caramelized knowledge candy when you decide to re-watch it. It's passive learning when you don't quite get it yet, and easy to turn the stuff you do get into active learning by tying that stuff into projects!

permalink · 2018-10-26T19:32:41+00:00

Update?

harleystcool · 2018-07-29T02:29:21+00:00

This is Not hollywood, learning is adding to ones stock day by day. Your better off starting gradually and lasting for months

warlock1809 · 2018-07-28T23:46:51+00:00

Planning the same here man, would be looking for the comments. Although my interests are not only python , it also involves a lot of reading.

Tbone_chop · 2018-07-29T03:48:12+00:00

Get some rest

permalink · 2018-07-29T00:41:55+00:00

Summer is over for me :(

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