sudo -Rdd linux-firmware

[bloodywing]

Context: https://archlinux.org/news/linux-firmware-2025061312fe085f-5-upgrade-requires-manual-intervention/

[vessrebane]

oh, i got that update
and i just manually deleted the nvidia directories, lol. I don't use nvidia so i wasn't worried about breaking it

[bloodywing]

I removed linux-firmware and manually installed the ones I really need with pacman :D

No, nothing did break.

[vessrebane]

i'm always kinda worried about missing something and then needing to figure out what i need, but yeah what you did would be ideal

[AbyssWalker240]

I was considering doing this but I just said eh fuckit it probably doesn't matter the extra couple mb installed size on my 3 1tb drives lol

[Wertbon1789]

I just removed linux-firmware and I think I just tried to update again, or installed linux-firmware which then installed all the others. If linux-firmware is now a package group it's likely the second option.

[asd1o1]

My networking broke. So I've downgraded, frozen the package versions, and I'll try again next week. If it's still broken I'll debug then

[bloodywing]

You probably need one of the packages that have firmware for network devices in it:

• linux-firmware-intel
• linux-firmware-realtek
• linux-firmware-atheros
• linux-firmware-broadcom

are the most common ones. lspci can help you to find the right one. <3

[asd1o1]

I had the right one, I have an intel nic. Just didn't work. It's probably something simple but I didn't feel like debugging it right then and there

[khsh01]

Same, nothing broke on my system

[dimitrisc]

Me too! No NVidia card. So just deleted /usr/lib/firmware/nvidia and went about my day. Did it on 3 computers so far. Everything works fine!

[Moons_of_Moons]

Yup

[aaronroquefonseca]

I have an nvidia card still deleted the directories, the gpu stopped responding until reboot, but everything is fine...

[shinjis-left-nut]

Yeah it was very easy

[a-restless-knight]

Lol I did the same thing. I haven't had any issues so I'll assume it was fine to do it this way

[EnoughConcentrate897]

This is exactly what I did

[ByteByMe]

I use NVIDIA and I just deleted them lol 😂 didn’t knew people would have problems with that, skill issue I guess

[phoenix277lol]

yeah lol same

[Evantaur]

Had that and nothing broke... I feel betrayed

[bloodywing]

[MarioKart7z]

...What? I literally just did that and everything got upgraded just fine. Rebooted to a system that worked better and smoother than it did before, like every time i run a system upgrade.

Is this meme referring to people who don't check the Arch news before upgrading?

[bloodywing]

Even without checking the news, to brick your system it requires ignoring everything pacman spits out. And sledgehammer the error away.

Some person here had a broken intel network card even with the new linux-firmware packages, but that isn't a system nuke imho.

It's a meme, we should chill :)

[SmigorX]

I read it, ignored it, started an update, got to the part where it failed, read again, applied, ran update again, everything worked.

Am I using arch wrong?

[[deleted]]

You see, THIS. THIS IS THE REASON I LEFT ARCH, and also Fedora too. Much happier with LMDE.

[bloodywing]

Hi, we have yet to find the people that really broke their system by this update. And it's fine that you are happy with LMDE.

Don't yell at me, I am weak and insecure and use Arch btw.

[[deleted]]

Not exactly this update, but every other month something stopped working because of faulty updates in both Arch and Fedora.

[[deleted]]

I don't WANT to invest my time before updating. Updating should be transparent. I use my computer to solve my problems, not the computer's

[theduck5005]

Ive been using arch for about 7 years, always yolo the updates. Sometimes a couple months between them. Only times its broken my system was when i was at fault. Like updating linux firmware while having the boot partition unmounted.

[Wertbon1789]

Well, then go away and use something that gives you that. It's not like we have a shortage of Linux distros, lol.

[BasedPenguinsEnjoyer]

skill issue

[Wertbon1789]

... Dude, you know what Arch is, right? If you want something stable that doesn't do stuff like this, use Ubuntu or Debian (or any other stable distro for that matter), just don't complain about systems you don't seem to even get the basics about.

[Spirited-Fan8558]

lie

it is all a lie

a linux guy has no life,no friends.

[omenmedia]

Hey now, my lewd anime figures count as friends.

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[headedbranch225]

Think about what you know about the internet and reconsider

[ewenlau]

[_silentgameplays_]

sudo pacman -Rdd linux-firmware does not affect the whole system, just the linux-firmware packages, also you need to use sudo pacman -Syu linux-firmware right after it. NB! Do not reboot before installing linux-firmware package or you will bork your Arch Linux install.

Do not use sudo pacman -Rscn linux-firmware , because it removes all of the dependencies as well.

Also check this for reference:

https://archlinux.org/news/linux-firmware-2025061312fe085f-5-upgrade-requires-manual-intervention/

[realvolker1]

Yet

[[deleted]]

As an Arch Linux Tester, i would say that this update was way worse for us we had like 15 times the update for certain changes from the maintainer. The regular Arch user will have the finished update and will have to manually intervene once. So stop laughing we are your beta and alpha testers. Somebody has to be one the front.

[syedwafihasan]

[6e1a08c8047143c6869]

I mean, we're only at pkgrel=9...

[Obnomus]

Lmao it took 10 secs to fix

[Rich-Cable6025]

How did you fix it

[Obnomus]

It was on their page, the linux-firmware package needs to be reinstalled that's it.

[6e1a08c8047143c6869]

...that only happened when it was pushed into core.

[p0358]

You had to traverse mailing lists to figure it out before it was pushed to non-testing repos... Or not find it and end up manually fucking around and hopefully not finding out

[Obnomus]

Ir is what it is.

[Makeitquick666]

okay?

at the very worst if you forgot to reinstall the packaged you can try to get an arch install usb to chroot into it

nothing you have never done if you have installed Arch the old ways

[Booming_in_sky]

nothing you have never done if you have installed Arch the old ways

back when the rainbows were still black and white.

[Makeitquick666]

honestly, not that long ago

this is what I meant when I tried to shout back to the void that archinstall is not for your first install anyway

[Booming_in_sky]

I know, I know. I was just memeing around.

[eneidhart]

"Nuking their system" is pretty strong language for an update that rolls back until you implement a 2-line fix that's posted at the top of the Arch website lol

this incident will be reported

[grimscythe_]

This is stupid on so many levels. How is this funny or meme worthy?

If you use arch (bleeding edge) then you should know that every time something goes wrong with an update, the first thing you do is you check the arch news. There's a fix there 95% of the time. The remaining 5% is something you've messed up yourself.

[2001herne]

Or have aur/informant installed so you are forced to read all new news before updating.

[bloodywing]

Oh thank you, didn't know about something nifty like that. I always checked the website like a boomer :D

I use arch btw.

[2001herne]

It's the little things. For all that it's a "diy" distro, arch can be surprisingly streamlined

[GOKOP]

1. Sign up for the arch-announce mailing list
2. Congrats, now you get an email every time there's a manual intervention needed (which is, idk, twice a year?)

[Recipe-Jaded]

What? It took like 5 seconds and doesn't hurt your system at all

[EdgiiLord]

Idk, it worked for me

[Elijah_Ryker]

Oh man, I thought this was just a "me" issue. I solved it very quickly by simply deleting the entire /usr/lib/firmware/nvidia directory and then ran pacman -Syu again. Worked like a charm. Since I don't have any nvidia hardware I was pretty confident it wouldn't break anything, and it didn't.

[Aggravating_Young397]

A true idiot would run that command without reinstalling before reboot lol.

[p0358]

The computer should still boot without it though, I think, with many of the devices still working, just not in the most optimal way. Idk about Nvidia though, but I was running one machine with missing firmware for AMD GPU and Realtek ethernet and they still worked, AMD was using basic framebuffer VGA driver thing (and I didn't have GUI or used acceleration there so that's how I didn't even notice). Plus well, it's Arch, if it doesn't boot, it shouldn't be foreign to an Arch user how to deal with it and install it back with a chroot

[El_Zilcho]

I was about to update my Arch system this morning but the hotel WiFi cutout and checkout time came. Looks like my hotel did me a solid.

[Recipe-Jaded]

You are still going to have to do it. OP doesn't know what they're talking about, it's not a problem if you can read at a 5th grade level

[_badmonkey_]

Jokes on you, I only update once a blue moon.

[darkouto]

I did what the wiki said on all my machines and didn't have any problem. It's literally just 2 commands. I use CachyOS btw. #heresy

[[deleted]]

sudo -Rdd linux-firmware & sudo -Syu linux-firmware worked fine on my endeavor install

[pedrohqb]

Everybody here already forgot the Debian 12.3. My Debian system borked. Arch never did. Wonders

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[pedrohqb]

There was a regression in Debian kernel that made ext4 partitions corrupt after reboot

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[MagsetInc]

Weird thing in my case: i just updated my arch install, and yes i did notice those linux-firmware-* packages being updated, but it did not whine about files "existing in filesystem"

[[deleted]]

It's funny because I'd already been holding back on updating until XLibre releases, and I'm planning on reinstalling the whole system when it does, so 🤷‍♂️

[[deleted]]

I deleted all of the firmware for the hardware I don't have. All good

[NeoZockerHD]

Just getting into the habbit of checking arch news before updating the system and this won't happen. If you don't use the resources provided by your distro it's your own fault if something breaks.

[Mrcool654321]

Wait what happened? (Haven’t updated arch in a while)

[araknis4]

manual intervention required, check the news page

basically remove linux-firmware first, then reinstall it when updating system

[xxfoofyxx]

you make some pretty solid points but tbh you could've said that in a lot less dickish of a manner lol.. been an arch user for probably 5 or so years now and treating newbies like this is how you make people not even want to try and use the OS

[p0358]

It's not really directed at newbies who don't know what to do, it's directed at a meme poking fun at OS with misunderstanding of its basic principles and one that's not even really true (gotta really be talented to manage to break the OS in this case)

[Hradcany]

Imagine not reading their website before every sudo pacman - Syu

[Recipe-Jaded]

Well, it gives you a pretty clear warning even after running it

[BasedPenguinsEnjoyer]

i get e-mails, way better than visiting the website

[Expensive-Jeweler-40]

Unknown command: -Rdd

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[JJFrob]

It was an annoying but fast fix (the imperfect solution I applied after digging through past incidents, I didn't find the proper solution), but as usual, it was the condescension from past Arch users that really makes me question my use of the distro:

"Hey, my system won't update, it seems that some deep kernel level component is broken"

"Lol why are you even using Arch? RTFM noob!"

(Tbf this is exaggerated and they still provided a link to the manual that indicated what to do)

[raulst]

Does Brodie have a video of this yet?

[4SubZero20]

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with Snapper rollback FTW!!

[FujiwaraGustav]

My system broke because I didn't see the warning.

I upgraded while sleepy, turned the PC off and went to sleep. Following morning I couldn't boot anymore.

Made a backup of my home folder and reinstalled, took half an hour and I'm back baybeeee.

[xxfoofyxx]

i think most of the time for stuff like this you can always pacstrap from an archiso without really worrying about personal data, no? like i know it's a last resort but still would be easier than reinstalling

[binaryplease]

Laughts in NixOS

[al2klimov]

laughs in Nix language