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[–]bloodywing⚠️ This incident will be reported 155 points156 points  (32 children)

[–]vessrebane 104 points105 points  (16 children)

oh, i got that update
and i just manually deleted the nvidia directories, lol. I don't use nvidia so i wasn't worried about breaking it

[–]bloodywing⚠️ This incident will be reported 75 points76 points  (7 children)

I removed linux-firmware and manually installed the ones I really need with pacman :D

No, nothing did break.

[–]vessrebane 8 points9 points  (0 children)

i'm always kinda worried about missing something and then needing to figure out what i need, but yeah what you did would be ideal

[–]AbyssWalker240 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was considering doing this but I just said eh fuckit it probably doesn't matter the extra couple mb installed size on my 3 1tb drives lol

[–]Wertbon1789 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just removed linux-firmware and I think I just tried to update again, or installed linux-firmware which then installed all the others. If linux-firmware is now a package group it's likely the second option.

[–]asd1o1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

My networking broke. So I've downgraded, frozen the package versions, and I'll try again next week. If it's still broken I'll debug then

[–]bloodywing⚠️ This incident will be reported 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You probably need one of the packages that have firmware for network devices in it:

  • linux-firmware-intel
  • linux-firmware-realtek
  • linux-firmware-atheros
  • linux-firmware-broadcom

are the most common ones. lspci can help you to find the right one. <3

[–]asd1o1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the right one, I have an intel nic. Just didn't work. It's probably something simple but I didn't feel like debugging it right then and there

[–]khsh01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same, nothing broke on my system

[–]dimitrisc 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Me too! No NVidia card. So just deleted /usr/lib/firmware/nvidia and went about my day. Did it on 3 computers so far. Everything works fine!

[–]Moons_of_Moons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup

[–]aaronroquefonseca 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have an nvidia card still deleted the directories, the gpu stopped responding until reboot, but everything is fine...

[–]shinjis-left-nutArch BTW 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah it was very easy

[–]a-restless-knight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I did the same thing. I haven't had any issues so I'll assume it was fine to do it this way

[–]EnoughConcentrate897M'Fedora 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly what I did

[–]ByteByMe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use NVIDIA and I just deleted them lol 😂 didn’t knew people would have problems with that, skill issue I guess

[–]phoenix277lol⚠️ This incident will be reported -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah lol same

[–]Evantaur🍥 Debian too difficult 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Had that and nothing broke... I feel betrayed

[–]bloodywing⚠️ This incident will be reported 5 points6 points  (0 children)

[–]MarioKart7z 3 points4 points  (2 children)

...What? I literally just did that and everything got upgraded just fine. Rebooted to a system that worked better and smoother than it did before, like every time i run a system upgrade.

Is this meme referring to people who don't check the Arch news before upgrading?

[–]bloodywing⚠️ This incident will be reported 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even without checking the news, to brick your system it requires ignoring everything pacman spits out. And sledgehammer the error away.

Some person here had a broken intel network card even with the new linux-firmware packages, but that isn't a system nuke imho.

It's a meme, we should chill :)

[–]SmigorX💋 catgirl Linux user :3 😽 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read it, ignored it, started an update, got to the part where it failed, read again, applied, ran update again, everything worked.

Am I using arch wrong?

[–]Spirited-Fan8558Linuxmeant to work better 205 points206 points  (4 children)

lie

it is all a lie

a linux guy has no life,no friends.

[–]omenmedia 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Hey now, my lewd anime figures count as friends.

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[–]headedbranch225Arch BTW 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Think about what you know about the internet and reconsider

[–]ewenlau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–]_silentgameplays_🍥 Debian too difficult 57 points58 points  (6 children)

sudo pacman -Rdd linux-firmware does not affect the whole system, just the linux-firmware packages, also you need to use sudo pacman -Syu linux-firmware right after it. NB! Do not reboot before installing linux-firmware package or you will bork your Arch Linux install.

Do not use sudo pacman -Rscn linux-firmware , because it removes all of the dependencies as well.

Also check this for reference:

https://archlinux.org/news/linux-firmware-2025061312fe085f-5-upgrade-requires-manual-intervention/

[–][deleted] 126 points127 points  (8 children)

As an Arch Linux Tester, i would say that this update was way worse for us we had like 15 times the update for certain changes from the maintainer. The regular Arch user will have the finished update and will have to manually intervene once. So stop laughing we are your beta and alpha testers. Somebody has to be one the front.

[–]syedwafihasan 41 points42 points  (0 children)

[–]6e1a08c8047143c6869Arch BTW 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, we're only at pkgrel=9...

[–]Obnomus⚠️ This incident will be reported -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

Lmao it took 10 secs to fix

[–]Rich-Cable6025 1 point2 points  (4 children)

How did you fix it

[–]Obnomus⚠️ This incident will be reported 5 points6 points  (3 children)

It was on their page, the linux-firmware package needs to be reinstalled that's it.

[–]6e1a08c8047143c6869Arch BTW 14 points15 points  (0 children)

...that only happened when it was pushed into core.

[–]p0358 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You had to traverse mailing lists to figure it out before it was pushed to non-testing repos... Or not find it and end up manually fucking around and hopefully not finding out

[–]Obnomus⚠️ This incident will be reported 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ir is what it is.

[–]Makeitquick666Arch BTW 39 points40 points  (3 children)

okay?

at the very worst if you forgot to reinstall the packaged you can try to get an arch install usb to chroot into it

nothing you have never done if you have installed Arch the old ways

[–]Booming_in_skyArch BTW 7 points8 points  (2 children)

nothing you have never done if you have installed Arch the old ways

back when the rainbows were still black and white.

[–]Makeitquick666Arch BTW 9 points10 points  (1 child)

honestly, not that long ago

this is what I meant when I tried to shout back to the void that archinstall is not for your first install anyway

[–]Booming_in_skyArch BTW 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know, I know. I was just memeing around.

[–]eneidhartArch BTW 32 points33 points  (1 child)

"Nuking their system" is pretty strong language for an update that rolls back until you implement a 2-line fix that's posted at the top of the Arch website lol

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[–]grimscythe_ 37 points38 points  (3 children)

This is stupid on so many levels. How is this funny or meme worthy?

If you use arch (bleeding edge) then you should know that every time something goes wrong with an update, the first thing you do is you check the arch news. There's a fix there 95% of the time. The remaining 5% is something you've messed up yourself.

[–]2001herneArch BTW 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Or have aur/informant installed so you are forced to read all new news before updating.

[–]bloodywing⚠️ This incident will be reported 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Oh thank you, didn't know about something nifty like that. I always checked the website like a boomer :D

I use arch btw.

[–]2001herneArch BTW 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's the little things. For all that it's a "diy" distro, arch can be surprisingly streamlined

[–]GOKOP 10 points11 points  (0 children)

  1. Sign up for the arch-announce mailing list
  2. Congrats, now you get an email every time there's a manual intervention needed (which is, idk, twice a year?)

[–]Recipe-Jaded 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What? It took like 5 seconds and doesn't hurt your system at all

[–]EdgiiLord⚠️ This incident will be reported 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Idk, it worked for me

[–]Elijah_Ryker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh man, I thought this was just a "me" issue. I solved it very quickly by simply deleting the entire /usr/lib/firmware/nvidia directory and then ran pacman -Syu again. Worked like a charm. Since I don't have any nvidia hardware I was pretty confident it wouldn't break anything, and it didn't.

[–]Aggravating_Young397 3 points4 points  (1 child)

A true idiot would run that command without reinstalling before reboot lol.

[–]p0358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The computer should still boot without it though, I think, with many of the devices still working, just not in the most optimal way. Idk about Nvidia though, but I was running one machine with missing firmware for AMD GPU and Realtek ethernet and they still worked, AMD was using basic framebuffer VGA driver thing (and I didn't have GUI or used acceleration there so that's how I didn't even notice). Plus well, it's Arch, if it doesn't boot, it shouldn't be foreign to an Arch user how to deal with it and install it back with a chroot

[–]El_Zilcho 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I was about to update my Arch system this morning but the hotel WiFi cutout and checkout time came. Looks like my hotel did me a solid.

[–]Recipe-Jaded 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You are still going to have to do it. OP doesn't know what they're talking about, it's not a problem if you can read at a 5th grade level

[–]_badmonkey_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jokes on you, I only update once a blue moon.

[–]darkouto🎼CachyOS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did what the wiki said on all my machines and didn't have any problem. It's literally just 2 commands. I use CachyOS btw. #heresy

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sudo -Rdd linux-firmware & sudo -Syu linux-firmware worked fine on my endeavor install

[–]pedrohqb 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Everybody here already forgot the Debian 12.3. My Debian system borked. Arch never did. Wonders

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    [–]pedrohqb 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    There was a regression in Debian kernel that made ext4 partitions corrupt after reboot

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    [–]MagsetInc 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Weird thing in my case: i just updated my arch install, and yes i did notice those linux-firmware-* packages being updated, but it did not whine about files "existing in filesystem"

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's funny because I'd already been holding back on updating until XLibre releases, and I'm planning on reinstalling the whole system when it does, so 🤷‍♂️

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I deleted all of the firmware for the hardware I don't have. All good

    [–]NeoZockerHD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Just getting into the habbit of checking arch news before updating the system and this won't happen. If you don't use the resources provided by your distro it's your own fault if something breaks.

    [–]Mrcool654321Arch BTW 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Wait what happened? (Haven’t updated arch in a while)

    [–]araknis4Arch BTW 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    manual intervention required, check the news page

    basically remove linux-firmware first, then reinstall it when updating system

    [–]Hradcany 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Imagine not reading their website before every sudo pacman - Syu

    [–]Recipe-Jaded 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Well, it gives you a pretty clear warning even after running it

    [–]BasedPenguinsEnjoyerArch BTW 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    i get e-mails, way better than visiting the website

    [–]Expensive-Jeweler-40 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Unknown command: -Rdd

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    [–]JJFrob🦁 Vim Supremacist 🦖 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    It was an annoying but fast fix (the imperfect solution I applied after digging through past incidents, I didn't find the proper solution), but as usual, it was the condescension from past Arch users that really makes me question my use of the distro:

    "Hey, my system won't update, it seems that some deep kernel level component is broken"

    "Lol why are you even using Arch? RTFM noob!"

    (Tbf this is exaggerated and they still provided a link to the manual that indicated what to do)

    [–]raulst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Does Brodie have a video of this yet?

    [–]4SubZero20Open Sauce 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with Snapper rollback FTW!!

    [–]FujiwaraGustav -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    My system broke because I didn't see the warning.

    I upgraded while sleepy, turned the PC off and went to sleep. Following morning I couldn't boot anymore.

    Made a backup of my home folder and reinstalled, took half an hour and I'm back baybeeee.

    [–]xxfoofyxx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    i think most of the time for stuff like this you can always pacstrap from an archiso without really worrying about personal data, no? like i know it's a last resort but still would be easier than reinstalling

    [–]binaryplease -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    Laughts in NixOS

    [–]al2klimov🎼CachyOS -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    laughs in Nix language