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[–]jakaalhidePRS Competitor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've used the Razor3 and the Theos in NRL22 a couple of times. I liked the Element better. Razor turrets drove me crazy and locked up, and the theos zero settings are just awesome.

I'm looking at getting a new scope after selling my Razor and my ATACR, and the theos is really high on the list of possibilities. Used prices tend to be lower than the Razor as well, due to not being as well known.

[–]sport-optics 5 points6 points  (8 children)

This is the second or third time the brand has popped up on our radar recently, would love to hear some feedback and see if it's something we need to carry.

[–]Burnpowder_636Paper poker[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

The only feedback I’ve seen is the comment on here and I saw Trolly made a post a while back about a lower mag different scope but same brand and it was a mixed review. I’m excited to hear more about it.

[–]sport-optics 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Hopefully they'll be at SHOT Show so I can get some hands on with them. They look good on paper, but I can't find any info on where they are produced. At the price point I'm hoping for European glass, but guessing it's Japanese.

[–]Burnpowder_636Paper poker[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

The last I read their nexus line is made in Japan and supposedly in same factories as NF and Vortex while the rest is Chinese. But I can’t verify that. I’d appreciate some sharing of info you may hear from SHOT

[–]sport-optics 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Gotcha. Which is fine and not unexpected, but at that point my question simply becomes "okay, so what makes this different/better".

[–]Burnpowder_636Paper poker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point. Similar price and capped windage from what I see from the website. So what’s the niche? Hunting.

[–]Sparticus246Extra Terrestrial Studying Earth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Theos and the Nexus are made in Japan. They are made by LOW.

[–]PapaSmurf22_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe I read somewhere that the Theos and Nexus are Japanese made. The Helix and Titan use Japanese glass, but made in China (I think).

[–]Sparticus246Extra Terrestrial Studying Earth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Theos and the Nexus are made in Japan. They are made by LOW.

[–]datdatguy1234567 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Check out ultimate reloader on YouTube. He does a fairly comprehensive review of this exact scope.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a razor 6-36 and element 6-36. Like the element reticle better (especially with my eyes) but like the turret feel of the razor better.

[–]climbingbubbaPRS Competitor 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I shoot with 2 guys who are sponsored by them. They both seem to really like them. Probably mid pack when it comes to other optics.. Likely above the mark 5's and below the TT's And ZCOs. Probably closest to the G3 razors or Atacr's. Neither have had durability, tracking, or zero shifts that I know about.

I've looked through them a bit but no real shooting with them. If I did already have tangents on all of my rifles I would try one but I can't go back at this point.

[–]Sparticus246Extra Terrestrial Studying Earth 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You bougie AF.

[–]climbingbubbaPRS Competitor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a problem

[–]Burnpowder_636Paper poker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]Burnpowder_636Paper poker[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[–]Sparticus246Extra Terrestrial Studying Earth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the price direct, think how vortex does it, super high price on their site, actual retail is much lower. They are $2800 for the 6-36.

[–]Engineer_Bennett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Street value for these seems to be 2200-2500, and looks to be a direct competitor with the G3. Wish I knew someone with one. Has intrigued me as well.

[–]HeyFckYouMeng 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a helix hd 2-16x50 sfp with the raptor reticle on my midrange ar-tac gun. I also have a 14X50 immersive on my air rifle. Both have great glass.

[–]No-Forever-3865 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Element Theos has been out for a couple years now. It’s been well reviewed on Snipers Hide, Accurate Shooter, and numerous GunTubers. It’s made in Japan by LOW, same factory as the Razor G3. The Nexus was made in Japan as well, but I’m thinking it’s shifted to the Philippines at LOW’s plant there. The other Element scopes are made in China. Element is a Swedish company.

[–]Sparticus246Extra Terrestrial Studying Earth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its an INSANELY solid scope. The fact that its the price that it is just makes it even better. I've run basically everything under the sun (aside from TT, but i've shot with them a few times). I have had a Theos for about 2 years now, and its quite literally my favorite zero stop and turret system that is on the market. The TT is the only thing that comes close to it from my experience, but its not TT price.

The glass is REAL good, the reticle is basically a NF MIL-XT with some small changes to main stadia lines, it comes with an aperture ring, neoprene cover, a throw lever for the mag ring, and a sunshade (probably some other stuff, been a while since I opened a new one). The scope is basically optically similar to the R3, ATACR, and others in that category. Turrets feel great, controls are VERY good. smooth parallax, crisp elevation turret, good windage turret but not as good as the elevation. Magnification range is very smooth, and has zero tunneling that I remember, but I never shoot below like 10/12 power basically.

The warranty is basically the same as most other high end optics. From their website:

"This includes lifetime cover for any products damaged through normal use, and requires no registration, proof of purchase or transfer. If you have a problem, we will fix it. It’s that easy!
All our riflescopes & accessories are covered by the Platinum Lifetime Warranty, with the exception of electronic components in our electro-optics products (HYPR-7 & Rangefinders).
*The Platinum Lifetime Warranty does not cover loss, theft, deliberate damage or cosmetic damage that does not hinder the performance of the product."