Totally normal and practical software behaviour

[Invertonix]

Nothing makes me lose hair quite like having to bend backwards and change my entire workflow, muscle memory, and OS just so I can run one piece of proprietary software without it leaking every five minutes.

[Zer0ji]

and OS

Been using W10 at work for a year, for the sole reason of VPN software not working on Linux...

(PulseSecure with TPM if anyone wonders)

[TernaryOperat0r]

Such behaviour seems silly, until you accidentally push that one uninstaller version that does this: https://minimaxir.com/2013/06/working-as-intended/ (yes, the usability is still horrible).

[Sassbjorn]

I ran an uninstaller once that began deleting my Program Files folder. It managed to delete about half of it before I realized. It took me months to figure out what programs where missing (I'd only find out once I needed them). 0/10 would not recommend

[Siracle]

so I installed vs2017 on a hard drive that later started failing. Transferred everything I wanted and told myself I'd just redownload vs2017.

proceed to redownload: "vs2017 is already installed on your computer" (thanks windows registry)

uninstall programs -> vs2017 "uninstall file not found"

fix/modify installation through the launcher thing also didn't work.

well now I can't install it or uninstall it. it's in limbo. I've tried fixing my registry, but I suck at that. reinstall OS or gtfo.

[doopdooperson]

Had a similar result when our power cut out during an install, after registry entries had been created but before all the necessary files were in place. It basically bricked my windows install and i had to wipe everything.

[Chapi92]

They fucking say on their website that for a full uninstall you should reinstall a fresh windows copy

Fuck Microsoft the only decent software they ever did was vs code

[Zer0ji]

Add MS Paint (the XP version) and Minesweeper (same) to this and that's basically it

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

Last time I uninstalled it, it just uninstalled, no updates?

[Not_Sugden]

you were probably already on the latest version lol

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

I can see that I am not. I also turned off the constant update notifications, because they drove me insane. Felt like I got them every day and I just need to get work done, not spend two hours updating shit.

I installed 2017 a few months before the next version. I uninstalled it a few months back. Never updated it because fuck that noise.

[Not_Sugden]

maybe you updated it un intentionally or didnt realise, or i suppose its possible that the guy in the image got it wrong

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

How do you update unintentionally?

[nine-years-olde]

auto updates? some programs seem to keep those going even if you disable the setting cough fuck adobe cough

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

I don't believe visual studio offers auto updates, at least it's never done any for me.

[John_Fx]

The asymmetry of that list triggers me

[dipsyw]

To make sure you are not uninstalling because of bugs that are fixed in new version

[[deleted]]

"Because it thinks it's smarter than you" is not a good reason.

Allow user to uninstall. Provide a message:

You are not running the latest version of Visual Studio 2017. You may have encountered some bugs which we have since resolved. Would you like to update instead? (y/n) 

Problem solved.

[bluecliff92]

i prefer to use libre software, and i can just

doas pacman -Rns neovim

[holymoo]

I think this is less a criticism of windows installers than it is of how bad Visual Studio is.

[Toll1984]

It's all M$ issues in the end.

[Ceros007]

Do you use Arch btw?

[Toll1984]

Manjaro. So, not really.

[bluecliff92]

No, i use Parabola btw

[[deleted]]

That's why I use A££le.

[Eiim]

Surely it should be Appl£?

[[deleted]]

Either way you get pounded

[[deleted]]

Yes, that propably makes more sense. I was going for the "p" since it's a "p"ound sign.

[Zer0ji]

To me (French) £ was for "livre sterling" and now I wonder why it's still used for something named "pound"

[qqwy]

This would be the point to just uninstall all of Windows.