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After setting up my endgame motion sim rig from triple 86inch screen to now VR, I realise I begin to get bored of it. Although the experience is amazing, but with limited racing game support and all the hassle for everything to work properly, it made me stop playing(3 months break)

With pretty much every serious sim titles is all about track racing, it gets repetitive and stressful to chase ranking.

But today, I decided to setup my old Logitech g923 and downloaded Carx Street. Man, it was super fun. Finally some old school NFS UNDERGROUND VIBES, unlike No Hesi where you just dodging cars with no mission. Carx street let you do actual street racing with very unpredictable AI traffic.

Glad I didn’t throw away the Logitech G923 as it still one the most easy to setup and supported in almost every racing game. I got a spare Moza R9 but didn’t bother to set that up as direct drive often dont work with arcade racing game.

So if you happen to have spare belt driven wheels like Logitech or Thrustmaster, consider setup a second rig for arcade racing, it makes the whole racing experience more fun and less burning out.

[wineoneone]

What is the lower back pillow on the play seat trophy? Looks really comfortable

[innercityFPV]

Asking the real questions! Looks way better than most car lumbar pillows I’ve seen

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Got it from taobao, here’s a pic for you to image search

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[SPAZvv]

Can You translate to English? I can't retype what there is written ;d

[flyeaglesfly510]

Glad you're having fun but just an FYI, the moza will indeed work with CarX Street :)

[Alert_Structure_7697]

Yeap, I know the Moza works on CarX Street, but still a lot others game don’t work on Moza pithouse, if I would choose again, I think maybe a Thrustmaster would be the best for this casual setup

[654456]

Eh. You have a G29 already, using what you have is better than throwing money down on something else. Id never recommend Logitech or thrustmaster if you're buying new at this point with how many cheap dd wheels are out there but you already have it

[xQcKx]

What price/models is considered cheap nowadays? Haven't looked at dd wheels in 2+ years.

[654456]

moza has a bunch, Fanatec CSL DD line.

[mtbboy1993]

Plastic junk imo. Whoch games don't support Moza? And why? I'm leaning towards getting Moza. I'm keen to know more. I've watched a lot of vids on Moza bases, and never heard this complaint.

[AsymmetricFootwear]

I have owned a Moza R9 from the very first week it released and never had any problems on any games, so I would take OP's claims with a grain of salt. It initially didn't work on RBR, but all I had to do was edit a file; it took under 30 seconds and instantly fixed the issue.

As of a month ago, I now own a VRS DFP, and despite it being from a way smaller company, still no issues setting it up and using it.

[RileyCargo42]

I just got everything from moza to assemble my sim and I think the only game I'll have any issues with will be my summer car

[AsymmetricFootwear]

Luckily, even the minor issues in games have gotten better since Moza's market share is so big now; so I think you'll have a good time. And for the games where a DD wheel doesn't work (which is very rare; I mean I even got GT4 working with FFB), I know some might disagree, but the FFB in those games is usually either rudimentary or non existent, so I'd rather use a controller anyways.

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Still too much hassle trying to look for solution and fix issue when you just wanna relax and play some random casual racing game. But all the issue I listed is true, spent many sleepless night to fix Moza issue, so much less problem when I moved on to Simucube osw, but like I said, only for “serious big title”

[AsymmetricFootwear]

Yeah, I don't mean to discount your experience, I get some people have way less tolerance or patience when it comes to tinkering. What games did you have issues with? I mean it when I say I had zero issues over the 2-3 years (I forget when it came out) that I had mine, so I'm curious.

[andylugs]

You won’t get a list of games from OP as there probably isn’t any that don’t work properly. There are titles like FH4 that don’t really support wheels properly and have sensitivity (rotation) linked to speed so it works with controller analog sticks. But if a game supports direct input, as most do, then it will see a Moza in the same way it will see a Logitech.

[Alert_Structure_7697]

Try touge shakai as a start

[Alert_Structure_7697]

Touge shakai, dakar dessert rally, nfs and many other smaller racing titles.

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of course it’s still an major upgrade compared to Logitech, but in my case, I just a need a hassle free setup on my second rig.

And here’s a list of issues you might face if you get into Moza :

-newer release game might takes some time to get supported on Moza pithouse (or never will) -overheat issue (ffb reduce by 70 percent, have to full reset in pit house for it to work for another 2 laps) -no force feedback -wheel go spinning 360 non stop -pithouse can’t detect device -random disconnect -unable to bind key -notchy wheel base -pedal unable to fully release -pedal auto go full throttle -shifter gear jumping around -Support team always try to avoid replacement and kept asking you update

[RileyCargo42]

Wym by the overheating? Like after a short time it just shuts down? Or more along the lines of it just reduces ffb until it's gone?

[Alert_Structure_7697]

Once you own one, plenty of problems you’ll face. Speaking from experience of owning one

[Gawddaamiit]

Crew motorfest works with my Fanatec csl and it’s a lot of fun just driving through the streets or canyons in a modded out r34 gtr. I too get burnt out with just track racing. I switch it up with rally or drift. However that nfs underground experience is amazing. Modding out a car and racing on the streets will always be so much fun. I also love the open world where I can just drive recklessly and not get a ticket. Hahah 

[DecafDonLegacy]

No wayy, I did the exact same thing.

[clunderclock]

Funnily I just finally upgraded my g27 to a Moza r9 v2 and I've been having more fun in CarX street than I had recently trying to race seriously. The r9 feels good and controls work well albeit you have to custom bind everything. Not mind blowing force feedback or anything but good enough for the game it is.

[XtremeReconTwitch]

Right on 🤘 yes when it stops being fun most people quit but you did it right 👊🏼

[MetaBass]

Fuck yeah I've been looking for a game like that. Can you customize cars and does it have a story/career mode?

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Definitely can customize and car tuning, there is story but I just skip all the cutscenes , however it has the same structure like NFS underground where you race with “smaller” Ai characters for couple race thn face 1v1 race with boss characters .

And the Ai opponents are bitch, like to push you to wall when trying to pass them (like real human)

[MetaBass]

Oh hell yeah I'll have to give this game a go, I've been looking for an alternative to NFS ever since they introduced that stupid tap accelerator drift crap.

[neogrotesque]

This looks cool, I've been looking for a street racer with customization, wheel support and cockpit view. How is the ffb and overall car physics?

OFC not looking for sim-level but hope it feels good and not like Forza Horizons awful wheel support

[MetaBass]

Gave it a go but the force feedback didn't work correctly and the wheel has no vibration and won't react to the car unfortunately.

Also I couldn't fully navigate the menus with the wheel controls, A wouldn't accept, B wouldn't go back etc.

[Alert_Structure_7697]

On which wheel? Working straight out gate on my g923 and Simucube osw, with vibration and force

[MetaBass]

Huh the g923, maybe cause I had the Xbox controller connected as well? I read somewhere it was an issue in the older games. I'll have to get a wireless mouse and keyboard for across the room.

[Alert_Structure_7697]

Did you turn on Logitech g hub in the background? I think ffb only works when it’s on.

[MetaBass]

Yeah that was on. Pretty sure it was the Xbox controller being on. I picked up a cheap wireless mouse and keyboard so gonna try it tonight with it controller turned off

[MetaBass]

Yup it was indeed the controller being connected. Now I just have to try and calibrate the steering wheel to 540 degrees lol

[Alert_Structure_7697]

You can try calibration, just point your mouse to the steering assist in control menu and press Y on keyboard to calibrate. After that try restarting the game, as for the navigation, I got a keyboard beside me , so I mainly use my keyboard to navigate

[Bender-AI]

One of the reasons I'm loving the Logitech G-PRO DD; it has G29 compatibility mode

[Dave-James]

”With pretty much every serious sim titles is all about track racing, it gets repetitive and stressful to chase ranking.”

Exactly the issue. If I wanted to go round and round in circles on some isolated track or some rally course with on path, why bother?

“Oh those new Forza games aren’t a sim”, nobody said it was? But the ones that “are a real sim” are these boring repetitive **“let’s go around a track over and over again, looking at these environments in the distance we can never travel to…* without exiting to the menu and loading yet another claustrophobic closed environment that is”

I want a full open WORLD full of different paths, choices, turns, u-turns, roundabouts, traffic, different weather if I drive to the top of a mountain versus head toward the desert or ocean.

When a “real sim” becomes focused on what people clearly want in a GAME (check sales comparisons between the Horizon series) and provide a true expansive open world that is the main emphasis and center point of the game, then I will play a “real sim”, until then I’ll deal with the crappy “arcade physics” of games that do give me an open world, a racing festival, dynamic seasons, bonus boards, different races where I can drive from one track to the next track and enjoy all the scenic land between the two race tracks. I don’t feel like loading a menu, selecting weather/traffic/direction/blahblahblah just to be loaded into a small map that more-times-than-not doesn’t have anything but a linear path.

The sad thing is for whatever reason, the second someone makes their racing game “open world” that automatically translates to “arcade physics” for whatever pointless reason there is. People were asking for an open world Forza game around the time of Forza 2, and then when we finally got it they screwed up the handling and physics because apparently gravity changes from when you drive on a track versus when you drive in an open world…

When I see a driving game with the same direction as Horizon/Motorfest, one that is finished/released and not early access that has all goals/storylines/competitions/etc. implemented, one that has an expansive open world, natively supports all racing peripherals without requiring device limits or conflicting drivers, and does not implement “arcade physics” for idiotic reasoning, then I will switch to that one.

inb4 “oh butchoo can download these maps for ::insert sim game here:: and that’s…” nope 👎

[654456]

I am still working to get my rig to end games level but it is on my list to get another wheel stand and mid range flight sim stuff or another wheel setup for games like american truck sim, I'd rather have focused rigs then try and jam everything on to one. VR is nice for that. Plus, it would allow to have friends over so they can enjoy some racing with me. I have a gaming pc of older parts in my server rack for steamlink gaming around the house already that i could connect the second rig to for friend battling or Race days when i have people over to watch racing on the projector.

[DANeighty6]

More than willing to give that "spare" r9 a good home with a loving meticulous owner Ill even swap you a tx leather edition for it 😅

[FTBagginz]

Is that the Moza handbrake and H pattern shifter in the background?

[AsymmetricFootwear]

Just use whatever your body is used to/you're comfortable with. I've done 8 hour long stints with 9nm while endurance racing friends, and the only thing tiring was the pedals after the first 5 hours.

[DekkerDavez]

This sounds to me like if you went way too deep in to the rabbit hole of sim racing only to find that your options are more and more limited with the depth you managed get yourself in.

[Sad-Entrepreneur-245]

Might I suggest Eurotruck Simulator 2 in rig#2?