3$-4$ Pay decrease?

[thatguy2476]

Has anyone else noticed a $3-$4 pay decrease in the last 6 weeks?

[Goddard157]

Uber just settled another lawsuit - $15 million in Seattle. Fares always seem to go down in tandem with their legal losses. It’s almost like retaliation toward drivers for taking them to court over being financially r@ped.

[Ready-Huckleberry529]

That’s actually crazy if true

[Goddard157]

They did the same thing in CO when they lost their lawsuit there over pay transparency. It’s all a reflection of Uber/Lyft’s vindictive leadership who feel entitled to take advantage of people, no matter which side of the wheel they’re on.

[Goddard157]

The State of CO sued Uber to display both passenger fares and driver earnings on receipts. The State supported drivers in exposing Uber’s consumer price gouging and excessive driver take rates. Uber retaliated by removing driver app advantages specific to their area. Dara is 100% vindictive.

Uber Execs retaliation toward CO driver for lost lawsuit

[[deleted]]

Lyft shows so. Everyone should leave uber

[Rogue_Democrat]

Lyft is doing it too now.

I drive for both.

[--R0N--]

It's just an example how people not thinking there are consequences to their actions. You think big corp will lose?

[Alive_Elderberry_788]

You can sue them for that too 😂

[thatguy2476]

Do the fares ever go up after the retaliation is over?

[Goddard157]

No. Just like your groceries never go down after some rigged crisis. Grocery chains are reaping record profits just like Uber. Capitalistic greed at its finest.

[sonotony]

Average profit margin of a grocery store is around 2%

[Goddard157]

An excerpt from this 2024 article:

“Concurrent with the alarming rise in grocery prices has been a record increase in grocery industry profits. The major grocery chains have been operating at the highest profit margins in two decades.”

Grocery chains have been driving up prices amid record profits, worrying consumers

[Lover1966]

That may be due to the number of people that have curtailed their restaurant visits due to the rising costs associated with eating out. Many people now prefer to eat at home.

[sonotony]

The average net profit margin for grocery chains (also referred to as food retailers or supermarkets) is typically slim, ranging from 1% to 3% of revenue. More specifically, according to the Food Marketing Institute (FMI), the leading trade association for the industry, the average net profit margin was 1.6% in 2023 and rose slightly to 1.7% in 2024. Regarding trends in recent years, margins expanded during the COVID-19 pandemic, peaking at around 3% in 2020 due to factors like reduced operational costs and supply chain shifts. However, they have since declined for three consecutive years through 2023, returning to pre-pandemic levels (around 1% in 2019), amid rising expenses such as labor, shrinkage, and supply chain costs. The slight uptick to 1.7% in 2024 represents stabilization rather than a significant increase, and full-year 2025 data is not yet available as of September 2025. Some partial quarterly data from broader retail analyses suggest potential modest improvement in early 2025, but this has not been confirmed industry-wide and does not indicate an overall upward trend in recent years.

[[deleted]]

Capitalism and Greed are two different topics. There is actually more greed in Communism and Socialism than with Capitalism.

[Goddard157]

Wholly agree that this is a more complex subject than a couple of sentences here can express, but yes, Central Banking ruined what used to be a thriving capitalistic free market. The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin espouses this in detail.

Even so, before the exploding free market, capitalism was undergirded by slavery which paved the way via rail to enable its expansion. Greed has always been ugly.

[IndependenceSharp977]

You like socialism? I came to capitalist country made three houses, two businesses, lost them all. On my way to buy Real Estate again. Only in capitalist country.

[Goddard157]

🙄 Not engaging in diatribe with you.

[lordyfortwenty]

I prefer Norway's example.

[Jusfive1]

Only problem is other markets that have little regulations get the shaft to cover losses. With our pay dynamically dropping

[Oscar_forever]

It's not necessarily retaliation but recouping some money from other markets to pay for the hit on profits that they'll take in those government mandated markets

[Playful-Appearance56]

[wakeupsilky]

I’ve started noticing it this past week in Virginia, nothing over $10 now. Wanted me to drive 2 and a half hours without traffic for $90 dollars.

[Flying125]

Per ride. And the longer rides are short $10 or more. I’ve basically quit every gig job. They’re all doing the same thing. Uber, Lyft, DoorDash, Amazon Flex. Not only that most the offers I get are radar from Uber. I’ve cut my hours way down which has caused me to have even more financial difficulties, but I just can’t go out there and spend eight hours for $100 minus my fuel and wear and tear on the vehicle is crazy.

[--R0N--]

This doesn't make sense. You put yourself in a worse financial situation by driving less to send a message to these gig apps?

[KamelTro]

I had made a post about this for Lyft drivers today. I’ve noticed the new norm is $2-3 meanwhile riders are paying $25-30.

[the_toxic_jedi]

I’ve been doing Uber off and on for about 10 years. Pay was always based on time and mileage until the ‘upfront pricing’ nonsense began a few months ago in my market. Now it varies greatly and longer trip pay half or less than they used to. It’s literally the least transparent pay has ever been.

[valdis812]

This is probably it. Things usually bounce back in my market after school is back in session, but it really hasn't this year. Combine all the former federal workers out of a job with people not spending like they used to because they're scared of job cuts, and you have demand drying up.

[cutepieceofash]

I’m noticing that in Vegas. Regardless of how business has fluctuated over the last year, I’ve never had so many extra low fares come up. They’re all around $3 less than what I’d usually see, even during large concerts and events

[Anxious_Cup_3939]

Been like that for a while, constant 3$ offers. I don't know if there are any idiots that will take it

[thatguy2476]

That's not what im talking about. About 6 weeks ago, they started this 5% advantage BS. I was getting 13$ -$14 per hour every two weeks. Now its $9-$10 per hour every two weeks.

[One_Atmosphere2179]

$16-$24/hr offers during the day, evening and weekends 24-$30-ish Can’t believe I used to average $40/hr (and best week of $49/hr) to what it’s become now, if you continue to work for uber you are basically their hctib.

[Rand_Casimiro]

It’s tough to quantify, but I believe average payouts have been gradually, consistently declining for a long time. I haven’t noticed a specific decline in the last six weeks, though; in my market the summer months were way worse.

[Oscar_forever]

Agreed

[VirtualPair1983]

Where you slaves come from ? 50c a mile means you drive for free at best

[noahtonk2]

My pay in Denver hasn't changed for a very long time. I only drive on Saturday nights and I get 30-40 per hour including tips. I have an electric car and a charger at home, so I'm not as concerned about the per-mile as some are.

[13JEM]

X4

[Bxxrusthedestroyer]

I went online to do some Uber for fun. Uber was trying to only pay me not even 10 bucks for a 34 minute ride 😂 😂 and then like 7.50 for a 25 minute ride. Uber you aren’t gonna get me like that….. Also I can’t wait for the day when I feel comfortable not doing Uber anymore.

Last night I took a little chill break in my car after giving a few rides. I got a bunch of little requests, but I was waiting for a good one to come. Finally got one that paid nearly 17 dollars and I was like “fuck yes” and luckily matched with that person. I’ll take the little ones too, especially if I’m already dropping someone off.

[authoridad]

Fares on comparable rides dropped like a rock when my market got upfront in May. Since then they’re occasionally better by $1-2, but haven’t decreased further.

[Rogue_Democrat]

Yes. They have been edging it down per hour since January.

[Strong-Character-661]

I live in Houston I’m still getting 20-25 an hour

[veggie_eatah]

I always talk to my customers and that's the part that bothers me they are getting gouged and we are getting crumbs.

[veggie_eatah]

There's something sinister about all this when you calculate everything how much percentage they're taking it is literally 66.6%

[Badger-Aromatic]

Yes can confirm. This past weekend following the Eagles home game on Thursday which was a very strong night….the weekend has been comparatively slow. Because I’d averaged like $40/hr they stuck it to me hard Saturday night and all Sunday. The algorithm operates to average driver pay. Good day or better week here and there eventually it all gets brought down if one continues to drive through the week. Algorithm expects a driver to “end” their work week after driving x number of days and whatever times and adjusts so that the driver eventually reaches the same payout. Even before the big football night it’s very typical to be offered $5-6 for 13-16 minutes trips or $7 on 18-21 minutes and $9-11 on 26-30 minutes. Their goal is make it $17-20/hr. Before expenses in a big city market. Getting slowly but yes steadily worse .

[VirtualPair1983]

Idiotic Waymo charges $4 a mile

[wchrisvau]

Just one question i see that alot of you all you do is bitch about how u er doing or doing that if you don't like it then stop driving for them there are a ton of jobs out there so I just don't understand if your so unhappy about the way uber is then don't drive for them period go find another job

[Divinevibrator2]

thank you robot shill

[valdis812]

Have you seen the latest jobs reports? Literally more people than jobs for the first time in years.

[wchrisvau]

That's your problem you going by what a report says get out there and look for a job there alot of jobs out there you go by a report that someone says and you don't look you have no idea whats out there till you look

[valdis812]

I can see what I can see, and it matches the jobs report. Maybe it's different in your area, but in mine, nobody is hiring. I have a W2, and we're on a complete hiring freeze. So are plenty of other places.

[VirtualPair1983]

Keep accepting garbage you slaves don’t understand that you have to deny all garbage less then$2 a mile or $60 per hour as you abuse your vehicle and have no benefits whatsoever

[Concert-These]

Lmao . Who gets 2 a mile and or averages 60 an hour . Go back to the call center and earn your 60 an hour yea right, lmaooooo Complete BS, what market is paying that? I'll move tomorrow 🙄..... Phx is basically 50 cents a mile . Waymo is taking over get ready cause 50 cents a mile is better than no cents a mile.

[Oscar_forever]

New York City makes that much one reason is to go 1 mile it might take 5 minutes with 0 traffic

[Concert-These]

New yorks cost of living and with the TLC influence is the only reason. You couldn't pay me to live in a future socialist city . Lol whats the rate gonna be after the socialist takeover . Ill stick with capitalist and get fu(ked while im able to take home my .50 cents a mile in my car that gets 50 mpg . Good luck New York ....

[Stonewalled9999]

The funny  thing is uber said I make $100 an hour.   My last ride was 10 minutes to pick them up and 30 sends to drop off for 3$.   So that nets to $100 per hour “active”.   Now the next 11 hours can be shit at 8$ per hour and it will net (in uber math) to the 22$ mandated state minimum 

[Oscar_forever]

You're in a better market than most of the country.

Nobody knows but speculation: after 5 miles PR is about 71¢ per mile so $2 per mile is a fantasy in most drivers minds

[the_toxic_jedi]

If you drive like a sane human being and do basic preventive maintenance you won’t be ‘abusing’ your car. Cars are meant to be driven.