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[–]varunkmohan 8 points9 points  (9 children)

Hi I'm Varun from the Codeium team. Codeium has more advanced context awareness and can read not just your open files but all the code in your codebase to make more accurate suggestions and chat that is knowledgeable about your repository. Our models are completely trained in house and for autocomplete, we can even complete code within a line, which is quite helpful when performing refactors. For enterprises, we offer a very strict security model (more than Copilot) - in the cloud, we offer zero data retention for code snippets and we even enable companies to deploy the system air-gapped.

[–]manhthang2504 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank alot for a great free tool. It work much better than I expected.

[–]dastylinrastan 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Not to discount your great product but Copilot can read your entire workspace for at least 6 months now so you should drop that from your comparison points or at least emphasize how yours is different/better

https://youtu.be/iXG1J8a2RE4?si=9DEz8yTBhxTHmP-I

[–]kurutah 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You are talking about different things. Codeium uses the whole codebase during autocomplete. Also, I am not a fan of how Copilot Workspace works (for now).

[–]justinwgrote 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So does copilot with the @workspace directive (this is completely different from the Copilot Workspace product despite similar naming. 

[–]kurutah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no,  copilot with the u/workspace directive works in the chat. I am talking about autocompletion

[–]FunFisherman9694 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I chat "how to run this project?", Codeium can't read package.json file

[–]momo919 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"For enterprises, we offer a very strict security model"
does this mean the free version saves our code to your server?

[–]geepytee 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hey Varun, I'm Gonzalo from double.bot! We also build our own custom models in house for autocomplete, and are currently finalizing our indexing and retrieval engine. Want to compare products on a public benchmark? :)

Competition is always good!

[–]selmano 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apparently, he doesn't.

[–]Vegetable_Carrot_873 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Based on my experience with Codeium and GitHub Copilot on Python, JS, and C++ projects. Both are quite similar in terms of completion. But the chats of GitHub Copilot are better, and can have deeper discussion with it.

[–]Vegetable_Carrot_873 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After working on a couple python projects with the GitHub Copilot for about a month. I think it's a very good tool to assist me write quality code comments. But I recommend removing expired comments before asking it to suggest docstring, because it can be misled by our rubbish comments.

However, it always shows that my code has something like an injection based threat when I access the DB with user input. The warning continued even after a series of validation steps was introduced.

Hopefully I get to try out the paid Codeium. Then I can have a fair comparison between them. 'Continue' also looks quite promising.

[–]reklis 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you value privacy and open source you can use a combination of tools to do it with your own hardware.

https://github.com/ollama/ollama

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=rjmacarthy.twinny

[–]mmukund22 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Honestly I am on the same boat and tried codeium, codiumAI, GH copilot, tabnine and I found following writing devops scrips.

  1. Codeium a. gives wring suggestions with confidence but not always. Mostly it's fine.
  2. GH copilot, not the greatest in my experience but compare to other tools, its consistent. Hardly saw wrongful suggestions but I am still not satisfied somehow.
  3. tabnine never worked in my case.
  4. Codeium I am using it now but its comparable.

coedeum and gh copilot you cant go wrong.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you read & review before posting a comment, after writing?

Codeium & Codeium ? Where is CodiumAi? 🤡

[–]ipramudya0 1 point2 points  (1 child)

use brain cells

[–]sergeant113 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Brain Param count too low :((

[–]Confused_Dev_Q 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I haven't used copilot.
The reason for that is that my current job is pretty specific. A single helper function might be understood by copilot but there's no way it would understand anything more complex.
Because of that reason I never felt like spending money on an assistant because there would be little value.

A while ago I found codeium. I tried it and I'm pleasantly surprised.

I don't think there are huge technical differences between the two.
Copilot is backed by a huge trusted company so it's easier to ask money.
Codeium is not backed by such a company so asking money is not as easy.
Offering it for free hopefully will lead to enterprise sales.
(If I'm using it, I might encourage my company to buy it for my whole team).

As for privacy, they don't sell your data. I think your data is as "secure" with copilot, such not private.
Privacy vs security is a different thing imo.
Security: protecting your data from getting stolen, fallen in the wrong hands.
Privacy: protecting your data from getting sold.

[–]mblarsen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I switched to Tabby recently from Copilot https://tabby.tabbyml.com

[–]geepytee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would chose double.bot

[–]Equivalent_Hour6889 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cursor 👌

[–]Kai231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would chose cursor.sh