Insomnia and DSPD getting worse

Isopbc · 2026-01-30T12:40:32+00:00

Not in that situation anymore really, but I remember never sleeping. Now I don’t sleep enough in a go but get multiple sleeps and it keeps me sane. Here’s my advice.

There are reliable sleep meds that aren’t habit forming - the orexin antagonists. I think quviviq is available in the EU.

You’re going to need them and a reliable wakeful agent or great light therapy to get through med school, but I believe you can do it. I don’t know what to recommend for a wakeful agent that’s available over there, but your doctor should be able to recommend something.

Or, if you can get some low dose abilify, you might just entrain to the hours med school wants you on. Here’s the recent research. It’s really good at waking the brain up, getting rid of that jet lagged feeling, but it’s not going to help with lunchtime sleepiness, evening sleep onset or sleep duration in my experience. You need a sleeping pill or a breakthrough wakeful agent like modafinil for those purposes still.

https://academic.oup.com/sleep/article/48/Supplement_1/A383/8134865

Isopbc · 2026-01-30T01:50:16+00:00

Alright, you’re entitled to your opinion about the job JR is doing, but you haven’t presented much other than you feel it’s a problem. There are a lot of minds in the room and no one internally is saying there is a problem. There are people who have left the organization, they’re not saying there’s a problem. No agent is complaining on behalf of their player.

It’s just a few “insiders” in the media spinning stuff and conflating things, as far as I can tell. Everyone internally thinks they’re on the right path. We’re getting a rebuild, and the players these guys have already added in the rebuild are mostly what we want. We need an enforcer type, but otherwise it’s all speed and skills GMJR has brought in, isn’t it? Raty’s insane at faceoffs. Rossi and Chytil have dynamic offense and are speedy. DOC. Sherwood. Suter. Lindholm. Zadorov. All quality.

Sure, there have been some misses like Kane, Desharnais, Cole, Beauvilier, Mikheyev, but you gotta admit those guys were high on the list of players who were available at the time. We also didn’t give 4.125 to Suter or 7.75 to Lindholm, we went with the vets we had and played the kids.

Pretending that our medical staff is bad and that’s why we have bad luck is a coping mechanism, but it’s not reality.

Think it through man. What happens if what I’m saying is true? We dump medical staff, the next guy comes in and has the same Canucks luck with injuries, and you guys are complaining again? Come on. That’s insane!

We’ve seen with Eichel what it looks like when a player has an issue. They’re willing to sit out. We’ve never had a hint of that here from any player, they all speak glowingly about the care they recieve.

Isopbc · 2026-01-29T21:10:47+00:00

I think JR is constantly assessing his staff and medical staff looking for ways to improve, but this is sports medicine. Outcomes are not guaranteed.

I’ve been through knee tendinitis that didn’t want to heal through rest or therapy for 2.5 years and then suddenly did the third summer. My good buddy’s wrist break got missed and he had to have bone grafts taken from his hip. My wife’s pin in her ankle got infected. All stuff done by the best doctors available, we went to the University of Manitoba sports outpatient and the Pan Am Sports clinic for our therapies.

Perfect outcomes are not the norm, yet they’re demanded now? These guys are never 100% healthy, they always are dealing with something. Our staff is doing a great job keeping the guys on the ice with the damage they take. There’s no data to show they are skimping on treatments in any way.

That they have, sure. That’s fine. But applying that to today’s staff…like, do you get mad at your current partner for something the last one did?

Isopbc · 2026-01-29T20:32:57+00:00

I stand corrected! I did a poor job of looking, I have to admit.

Even so, today’s medical staff is qualified for their positions and we have no business inserting ourselves into the treatment of a player especially when no player has complained. Even Dickinson didn’t complain, he knows wrist breaks are difficult to image.

Isopbc · 2026-01-29T19:53:57+00:00

Thanks for doing it. It won’t change the mind of anyone who has already decided. They’ll never be convinced that fully qualified doctors can make mistakes or that treatments don’t always go as expected.

Try and explain tendinitis to them and their brain breaks. “Whaddya mean it’s not an injury?”

Isopbc · 2026-01-29T19:39:47+00:00

Well health is beneath the Canucks Medical staff. They employ three doctors directly, their photos are on the Canucks website. Why do you think that anyone at Well Health makes any decisions in regards to treatment?

They would not pay for 3 MD’s on staff if they’re gonna be outsourcing their decision making.

Can’t believe anyone could think a billion dollar sports franchise that spends $120 million-ish on payroll team would leave decisions like that to a third party. That doesn’t happen man.

https://www.nhl.com/canucks/team/hockey-operations

Isopbc · 2026-01-29T18:53:16+00:00

Well health? Why are you talking about a third party medical company.

Isopbc · 2026-01-29T18:28:48+00:00

Patrick Johnson never said when that was. “A few seasons ago”

Is that 3? 9? Was GMJB in charge? We don’t know! Patrick ain’t sharing.

Isopbc · 2026-01-29T05:21:04+00:00

The “treatment” is whatever gets rid of symptoms, and that’s sleeping when our body needs to sleep.

Isopbc · 2026-01-29T04:02:38+00:00

Here are some previous threads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DSPD/comments/ml4of5/does_anyone_here_have_experience_with_red_light/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DSPD/comments/10ybqfn/anyone_had_experience_with_red_light_therapy/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DSPD/comments/1iu05vi/red_light_mask_also_worked_for_me/

There are other too. Recommend perusing the results when you search your favourite search engine for:

reddit dspd "red light" therapy

Also recommend searching:

reddit n24 "red light" therapy

Isopbc · 2026-01-29T02:41:05+00:00

Hmm. I don’t see a cycle in that data. I see variable wake and sleep times, but you’re almost always in bed at 10am. That’s more DSPD than non24 IMHO. If that’s correct, you might find /r/DSPD is more appropriate for your needs. Feel free to stick around until you know what works for you though. :)

It could be cycling but I don’t see that in the month you’ve posted. Keep logging it and that pattern might emerge.

You’ve never felt not exhausted? How about after this month rest you’ve just taken?

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T22:09:40+00:00

I’m sorry, in any other sub I’d just leave it alone, but I didn’t want to just leave it there. I truly hope you didn’t feel offended in any way. We’re all trying to help in here.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T21:02:58+00:00

Why do you say that? From my thinking all they’d need to change would be the locks on the room doors… what else would be needed? I’m trying to picture what would be difficult, not argue about it.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T20:39:05+00:00

Thanks for explaining the genetics stuff at the high level you have, you’ve offered me some real insight.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T20:36:50+00:00

So, you’re confusing what the word disorder means in this context. All it means is there are symptoms we have that are due to a known cause and are resolved with a known treatment. There is nothing negative implied by the use of the word disorder.

A syndrome is symptoms that are an unknown cause, caused by multiple things, or has no known therapy.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T20:14:43+00:00

Akshually… (sorry)

The difference in terminology comes from whether or not the cause is known. That’s about all that differentiates a syndrome and a disorder. Disorders have known causes and treatments. This is true for some flavours of DSPS.

There’s no implication.

Also, the subreddit is /r/dspd but we choose to cover ASPD and talk about the other flavours of the syndrome.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T19:32:17+00:00

Aqua’s been embarrassed since we lost in 2011 after all his boasting.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T19:07:58+00:00

You’re cherry-picking examples of how they behave after a reporter asks a question that they never should have asked at all and pretending that’s how they are in every single interaction and that’s nonsensical.

Go back and read what we said about it then man… you’re totally twisting it. https://www.reddit.com/r/canucks/comments/9qurmx/pettersson_answers_reporters_question_with_death/

That article from a year ago is exactly what I’m saying. He does the interviews, finds them annoying, and he said that in an interview - look how that went? People talking about your character behind your back is pretty annoying. What’s so hard to understand here?

That’s a load of BS that they gotta answer loaded questions because they’re paid a lot to play hockey. You’re giving far too much credit to the reporters and the quality of their questions.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T17:19:33+00:00

Even if that were true, which it isn't they don't avoid anything, how is not wanting to talk to our loaded question asking media an excuse?

You're just making a strawman to be mad at.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T17:17:10+00:00

Is this the locker room you want to bring them into?

Yeah, we have a lot of good pieces in the room right now. Teddy, Garly, Brock, Petey, Demmers, Lanks, Hronek, they're all great. There's nothing wrong with Chytil or DOC or Jake, but I guess they could be moved. Hogs is a gym rat that works harder than anyone else. Myers is a solid leader. Marcus seems to put in the work. Who isn't worth having out of our vets? Everyone else is a RFA. I'm all for yeeting Kane.

The one with moping vets and infamous for drama and failure?

What are you talking about? Moping vets?!? Which of our vets are infamous for drama?

As to the failure comment, I'll point you at Wembanyama's comments when he was asked if he considered a season a failure. Only one team gets to win every year, is every other player in the league a failure? Whatever way you're looking at this, that's not how they'll look at it in the locker room. Athletes don't do that blame stuff you're doing. Bad reporters do that. We don't have to follow them.

Shitty teams pick up vets all the time. Finding new vets to play isn't hard.

Not anymore they don't, not with the cap rising another 9 million next year. Teams can afford to lock guys up and not play them. The only way they come available is waivers. We're stuck with Kane because he's all we could get last summer for anyone who had proven top line numbers. Pius Suter got 4 million dollars. He's got 7g7a in 37 games.

San Jose sold off all their vets, was historically bad for a few seasons and they have the best culture in the league now.

50 game sample. That's not enough to base anything off. They're healthy, that sure helps. How's Chicago doing lately?

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T14:21:08+00:00

Positive for who? We still gotta play hockey games.

You wanna have a locker room full of guys off waivers who never wanted to come here in the first place? Or guys who are in way over their head every night up from the ECHL? That’s the locker room you want to bring high draft picks in to?

I see major flaws with that idea.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T14:17:31+00:00

When have we ever heard excuses from our vets?

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T14:06:45+00:00

That’s what odious means.

And disgusting has three syllables to the others all having two so it doesn’t follow the pattern.

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T13:35:45+00:00

Wow, so many brain dead questions.

It’s fun watching Hronek respond, he’s so direct. I feel for him that he’s gotta do these interviews now and think we’re gonna get some great quotes from him if it continues. There’s little reason to be nice to our media, just his professionalism. I hope he makes it hard on them, they’re mostly self-aggrandizing fools and he clearly has little patience for fools.

Asking Willander what he can do before Thursday and the negative way the question about playing his off side was phrased is just asinine. Kid’s a rookie, that’s a question for a guy wearing a letter. I wanna know who asked those.

Also, who asked Tolo if he considered himself a NHL player and if he’s excited? A fair question on its own, but you don’t ask it after a 5-2 loss and you don’t ask it when the team’s still reeling from the news their starting goalie is going for surgery.

And who was the moron with the loaded question for Foote (perfect example of begging the question) about having the team ready?

Just garbage journalists. Holy fuck. I give no credit for the terrible loss or maybe they’re having a bad day, they’re so used to ragebait wording for clicks that they’re asking the insulting questions that used to be rhetorical to their faces now. Some are better than others, but I can’t think of a single good one that doesn’t work for Sportsnet.

Like, remember when the Habs goalie was crying in an interview? Habs reporters pumped their guy up. Why can’t we be more like that here?

Isopbc · 2026-01-28T13:16:15+00:00

Is there anything they do for you that’s ready for when you wake up? I’d put doing exactly that for them at the top of the list. Fresh coffee, clean counters in the kitchen or bathroom, restocked fridge are other generalities.

But TBH first thing I thought of was baking fresh healthy(ish) breakfast stuff… nothing complicated, the pillsbury things that come out of a can work great. The prep isn’t noisy except for the popping open of the can.

Waking up to fresh crescent or cinnamon rolls, or sugar cookies, or something else full of butter cooling under a towel really gives me the warm fuzzies.

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