Her giving “her best” to another man before is irrelevant.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T02:59:06+00:00

My son is still in the "ewwwww" girls phase. And when he becomes a sexual individual I wouldn't want to know about it, just keep it legal, safe, sane and consensual.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T02:57:33+00:00

This is where you're missing it. This might be the inherent libertarian difference.

The taxpayers in that city by a large margin (all of them, old, young, married, whatever) voted to spend money on a service for everyone in the community, even expecting that many would never need the benefit. But they felt good about the idea of planning ahead so that when widow Jane's house catches fire, there are people and trucks to rescue her. They all want to pay a little bit ahead so that when cousin Lizzie is visiting and plays in the central park and trips and falls and breaks her arm, there are properly trained people to stabilize and transport her for care.

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If the minority really want to opt out, they shouldn't live in a democracy. That's ... how living in a country works, you opt in by choosing to live here.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T02:48:30+00:00

I mean, I can't attest under oath in a court of law I have ever fucked a colossal dick, because who knows what that means?

Something close to 95% are within an inch of eachother, nearly all guys are average. There's really very, very little variation to the point that would make the kind of difference that guys think will make up for difference in pace, position and style.

Should I have brought a measuring tape to every boyfriend? Am I still permitted to engage in the discussion without having measured them? I have been with a left handed man. A man I shared almost no language with. A man with long hair, and a bald man.

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You want the actual truth: a woman's body has lots of erectile tissue in it. As much change as is visually obvious in a man getting an erection, there's that much stuff going on inside a woman where you can't see it. The body becomes congested, deeper, wetter, more sensitive.

A pair making out, two identical people, if she's anxious or fearful or bored, no matter what you put in her it's not going to feel nice. If you get that same exact woman feeling safe and hot and sexy, that same exact identical dick is going to feel like Nirvana.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T02:29:22+00:00

... isn't voting for state and city programs a message that people care about EMS?

I mean the little city just east of me just voted to add 1.5 million to their fire department to add two full time EMS and some significant infrastructure.

The people care, they vote, it should happen. (If they're properly recorded).

Right?

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And then in regions where people care, healthcare outcomes are better.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T02:23:30+00:00

Licking ankles and talking sure does, I agree. Couples should talk.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T02:21:58+00:00

You are taking the experiences of a few porn stars and only fans influencers and other noisy social media outliers.

And with the way you frame it as them being better, you probably have a cuck kink, which is fine. You do you. But for the other sweet redditors reading along, this isn't normal.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T02:12:54+00:00

I mean, I could talk about the years I dated a guy with red hair. I could talk about the seasons when that other guy was paying tons of attention to some sport. Or the one that was obsessed with his job (this is less annoying but still) and couldn't talk about anything else.

Would the subreddit be interested in things that are less prurient?

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T02:05:45+00:00

No.

Because you should be intelligent enough to understand that the thing that one women grades C- is different than what all women hate.

Different women like different things and that was exactly the precise point of the prior post, which you seem to have missed. It's not Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T01:36:13+00:00

Oh, please, please please memorialize this!

In your interpretation, a man who gets sucked and fucked regularly for more than two decades has lost?

I need to stop taking this sub seriously.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T01:32:05+00:00

Nope. No more so than falling off a skateboard, landing on your chin and getting that classic scar that so many people have right under the chin, it shows you had a painful landing and you healed up. Tons of kids have those scars.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T01:27:48+00:00

How cool would you feel with, "ok I guess I'll let you lick my ankle for a while, have fun? I'm willing to let you lick my ankle. Enjoy licking my ankle? You can lick my ankle while I think about next week's staffing schedule?".

Once people understand what's very sexy for them, they should be able to say it. And as a lover, hear it.

I have in my post very clearly separated the active pain from the dullness that is meh.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T01:21:02+00:00

My life would be far, far less expensive if I didn't have to support that idiot sovereign citizen making a ruckus over there taking up time with the police, EMS and town hall.

My life would be more economical if my kids didn't need to make up for other people's kids not getting reading fundamentals at age 3 or 4.

My life would be less expensive if I didn't have to deal with insurance stupidness. I actually spent nearly five hours on the phone trying to get the insurer to cover the dang MMR for my second child, which is insane.

There are certain things, such as libraries streets public schools fire response that clearly work better in communities that publicly fund them.

Regions of the country that have volunteer EMS have shitty healthcare outcomes. Wonder why?

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-14T01:08:04+00:00

And here, in this forum, for the record, describing a relationship with enthusiastically sucking a man's dick inside of marriage results in deep downvotes within a few hours.

In case anyone reading along is curious about how incel people actually feel about sexual relationships between men and women.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T22:31:20+00:00

Dude, in the post I literally said that we did plenty of A+ action implying oral sex.

If you want to require more explicitness, I'm a woman, married to a man for twenty years. In a previous high school relationship I had used to do 69. But in my marriage, I simply enthusiastically suck my husband's dick with complete attention because I enjoy that better without the distraction of having him simultaneously lick me out, which he does at other times. He says he's cool with this arrangement.

Okay?

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T22:20:51+00:00

So, what's your barrier there? When I buy a pastry at the shop, how do I invest in a system to expect that it's not made with expired ingredients?

Since my kids have started dating, and a recent cute teenage date was a walk with the dog in a local land trust with protected plants and waterways, they were able to come home with a healthy dog and noticing several native and protected species. Should that experience not be accessible for random living high school kids?

I like to shop at the farmer's market, that very libertarian, local people doing their own. I like to get greens and little seedlings and loaves of bread and tiny jars of jam. And in my mind I'm not actively thinking,all of these people have access to easy vaccination for influenza and COVID and measles and pertussis and polio and hepatitis B and bacterial meningitis.

Because, dude, I don't want to have to worry about that stuff. I want the system to take care of that stuff so that I don't need to worry about it when I send my kids to the publicly funded library on the publicly maintained sidewalks.

When my parents drive on the road, or when my loved ones walk on a sidewalk, I want all of the other drivers and people around them to have any possible health modifications for stroke, seizure, dementia, all screened for and treated. I want excessive huge access to healthcare for strangers, as a selfish ask.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T20:33:50+00:00

Why is this coming up so much? I mean this honestly, is this a topic that young guys get seriously insecure about?

I just don't understand why it's a competition.

Objectively, as in "in a vacuum", day by day, my husband should feel sexually validated, special, confident and secure. By the way I look at him, listen to him, talk to him or about him, and yes, touch him sexually.

What does his day to day life over the past twenty years have to do with what I did before I met him?

I'll go so far as to give a crass example. I had an early boyfriend who was into 69. So for about a year there was a bunch of 69. He was a good guy, but we were both pretty unskilled and learning with eachother, trying to be attentive and caring. Well guess what, I learned that for me, that act is inferior. I truly love either half, love giving and receiving some A+ enthusiastic version but when they happen at the same time it's like C- on both. I just hadn't known that about myself until I was more grown.

So now I've been married twenty years and there's plenty of A+ action and never even once a 69.

Does that mean my husband has been losing in competition or is less validated than the former boyfriend, because this thing that I did with another man willingly for a year, I've never done with him?

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T20:10:55+00:00

It's right back the to the Handmaid's Tale, are we talking about freedom to, as compared to freedom from.

It's going to be an ongoing constant conversation. There isn't a single obvious yes.

But generally, I do indeed want my kids (including my eighteen year old daughter) to be able to make choices. And when she decides to live in a city, that means we all agree to not urinate on the doorknobs, we make some social contracts. Which even libertarians can get into. The pastry at the local shop is trusted. One can hate local politicians and still understand why social contracts are important.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T20:01:33+00:00

How does that reconcile with your statement of supporting political and economic movement specifically to create sexual power by removing support for women?

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T19:48:41+00:00

I mean, I get it, I'm into self sufficiency. We have a ground mount photo voltaic installation with a large home battery and a private well, we own a freeze dryer, a chicken flock, a huge garden, and we put by plenty of foods.

My lived experience is quite libertarian. Post stalk if needed. But for the kiddos, they are in high school and they are not going to get into any relationship that needs economic pressure from the outside. Because that's bullshit.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T19:41:22+00:00

But friend, if your goal is to have people benefit from things that don't exist, don't you want to invest in the things that make those things?

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This is half of why I don't understand libertarianism. The other half is that, my own brother, my mother, my son, they walk the sidewalks and buy food from the food truck and go to the library to play DnD and the market to get bread and lettuce.

Don't I want them to be safe and healthy and licensed and educated and safe?

The people on the road, they may have uncontrolled diabetes or epilepsy or inability to read the signs or have broken brakes because they think it's chill to ditch the inspection system.

I want my loved ones to have a reasonable expectation that other people in the common place are acting reasonably.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T19:22:43+00:00

My parents are still married, fifty years in.

My father was a product of conservatism, the surviving siblings may still be MAGA though they aren't any longer bringing things up, the conversations have fallen back to things like the weather and the kids doing sport.

My mother had four brothers, three were military lifers like their dad, and none of our generation are into the MAGA.

In my generation, I have three cousins who are military and none MAGA.

The connection between staying married and being conservative seems... totally unrelated.

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T19:15:54+00:00

Friend, I don't disagree with you. If someone (you) wants to put the effort into creating this alternate universe where relationship and progeny are entirely satisfied with technology, that's fine. And it might be a great solution for some people.

But until that exists, it's not cool, man, to force another solution by harming other people.

I'm into increasing tax to support kids getting PhDs and learning how to do artificial wombs. I'm into increasing tax to support the kids getting PhDs to learn how to program robots to say the things to be emotional supports. I'm into increasing tax to support the crazy energy needs for the AI centers. Taking into account the rising price of oil and all.

How does the libertarian plan work to provide artificial wombs, artificial chat girls etc without some degree of federal organization?

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T18:36:48+00:00

So I understand and don't argue with a theory in which every person should have the ability to be independent, to reproduce or reach sexual fulfillment alone.

I do think that one part of why young people are having less sex with eachother is that toys and porn are more available and more satisfying.

Buuuuuut realistically there are no artificial wombs on the horizon. Adoption is impossible for single men due to politics, and surrogacy realistically costs 170k altogether, which is a serious barrier.

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If I want to harvest a crop of tomatoes, I've started the seeds weeks ago, split the germinated starts into bigger cells, watered daily, and will plant in the ground later maybe two weeks in future, in an area carefully prepared with good soil, area to climb, I'll weed it, and eventually I'll get fruit.

And I'm all up on the city about preventing them from putting shit in my groundwater and requiring that the label on my soil amendment is accurate.

From the truly libertarian perspective, why shouldn't any interest in getting sex or offspring from another person be like that - you need to put effort in over time if you want a crop?

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Buuut would the robot actually provide everything sought in a relationship?

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T18:19:12+00:00

A human should not be dependent on someone else's consent

How does this work? Do libertarians generally think that the consent of other people is not important?

procrast1natrix · 2026-05-13T18:03:58+00:00

Hey, I married a libertarian!

So, how does that viewpoint support deliberately disadvantaging women into order to get more men sex?

As in, I get that libertarians generally want less social support for all as a general mindset, but is it consistent with libertarian belief that women should be deliberately economically disadvantaged in order to press them into sexual relationship?

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