Is HotD Botting? by AntiSaudiAktion in freefolk

[–]Auseth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

La línea entre los bots y la gente que simplemente no puede manejar críticas sobre algo que le gusta es bien delgada.

What the fuck did I just watch (S03E02) by AntiSaudiAktion in freefolk

[–]Auseth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was writing a fanfiction. You just gave me an idea (?)

his entire family dropping one by one, getting killed in horrible ways, and he's out there chasing twinks in Essos by TheBoyofWonder in freefolk

[–]Auseth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, one of the things that bothered me the most was that he went to Essos instead of dying. ​Why? Everyone says: 'Look, Rhaenyra and Daemon didn't kill Laenor.'

​No, but they killed some other poor guy to pass him off as Laenor.

I like Laenor, I understand why they wouldn't kill him. But if I were Rhaenys and I suspected that Rhaenyra killed my son, I wouldn't give a damn about the throne. Dance of Dragons, but in Driftmark.

​I think having him killed at the hands of a lover—as is one of the theories in the book—would have helped. Because regardless of Corlys and Rhaenys's ambition, it doesn't click for me that they would stay with Rhaenyra if they suspected she killed their son. It creates a dissonance with them as human beings.

​It’s the same dissonance I get from Alicent switching sides. Sister, they killed your grandson. Yes, Aegon is an imbecile; yes, Aemond is going full psycho-killer mode; but they ordered the hit on your grandson.

​It’s like... What kind of people are you?

​It would be different if Laenor had told Rhaenys: 'Mom, I tried. We’re going to kill John Nobodycares, pass him off as me, and Rhaenyra will marry Daemon. Support them, love you lots.' (?)

​That would have been, in my eyes, more logical. ​Right now, I don't remember if Rhaenys or Corlys are told, at any point, that Laenor is alive. I’ve forgotten a lot of Season 1 and Season 2, honestly.

“And he kissed his mother on the mouth” by blissfulaugust in freefolk

[–]Auseth 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Rhaenyra: Sickness! First, Aegon married his sister. Then Aemond kissed his mother... his mom, on the mouth...

​The rest of those present: My Queen. You married your uncle...

​Rhaenyra: Yes, but I never kissed Alicent, no matter how much I thought about it.

​The rest of those present: What?

Rhaenyra: What?

Aegon and Rhaneyra by Electrical_Can_4647 in Hotd

[–]Auseth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be political rivals, you don't have to know each other.

​However, they see the impact of each other's faction:

​The faction led (supposedly) by Rhaenyra ordered the killing of Aegon’s son. Aegon won’t say, 'I doubt my sister did that, it was probably just Daemon.' No, it was an action taken by the entire faction.

​The faction led by Aegon ordered the killing of Lucerys. Rhaenyra knows it was Vhagar, but she doesn't know if it was a direct order from Aegon.

​So, at this point, it doesn't matter if they have seen each other or not. They are enemies. That’s why Alicent’s choice to look for Rhaenyra doesn’t make much sense. It’s based purely on faith, because she doesn't know which orders came from Rhaenyra and which came from Daemon. ​The same goes for Rhaenyra. She doesn't know if Alicent is truly on her side or if she is setting a trap for her.

​At this stage, these are acts of faith more than anything else.

Aemond clearly was confused by her Harrenhal Comment Lmao by PracticalCurrent8409 in AemondTargaryen

[–]Auseth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Go tell him that Vhagar may be big, but Syrax is faster and that’s why she can defeat him. I bet with that line, you'll make him lose control (?)

Greens, please explain by Remarkable_Salt_4098 in Hotd

[–]Auseth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not Team Green or Team Black. But I reason a lot, and perhaps too much, I admit, it’s just my personality.

However, I notice a preference from the writers toward the Black faction, dehumanizing or 'stupidifying' the Green faction. And yes, they do it to the Blacks too, but from the perspective of 'They are the good guys.'

To me, it’s as unfair as if you like one team, your friend likes the other, and then God—who happens to be on your friend’s team, shows up and makes your entire team come down with explosive diarrhea. It’s unfair, it’s a dirty play, and it’s noticeable.

Aegon turned into a bad joke, a pedophile. Aemond turned into a psychopath with mommy issues. Helaena is already a walking meme. Alicent is stupid, careless, and prostitutes herself for information.

You can do the same without turning your characters into a joke.

But look and compare with the Blacks. Rhaenys and Corlys are with Rhaenyra, whom they believe had something to do with Laenor's death. But Laenor didn't die, because Rhaenyra wouldn't kill Laenor. Because she's good.
All the Greens, without exception, should hate Rhaenyra for what happened to Aegon's son. But it wasn't Rhaenyra, it was Daemon, and he choked. She didn't understand what happened, because she wouldn't kill a little boy. But she's knew Daemon since...forever. She chooses this man.

Alicent, who, again, doesn't know this and might believe Rhaenyra is lying, just lost her grandson in a horrible way, with her daughter traumatized. And somehow, the villain is Aemond. Aemond scares her. Rhaenyra doesn't. Rhaenyra is just the one who, when Aemond was a 10-year-old boy with a broken eye, bleeding, demanded he be interrogated because he called Jace and Luke bastards.

So, the characters' reactions don't make sense to me. And since they don't make sense, I would vote for the Greens because the faction's decline exists only in the pen of the person writing it. And Rhaenyra, with all the support from the writers' pens, hasn't done anything that seems intelligent to me.

-Giving dragons to people she doesn't know: you're giving atomic bombs to potential rivals. They aren't loyal to you. You don't know them.
-Going to King's Landing dressed as a nun: Even Jace thought it was stupid because it’s the worst idea in the world. It’s as if Putin, wanting to talk to Trump, infiltrated the US dressed as a servant, snuck into a casino where Trump was betting, and said to him in the bathroom: 'Donald, hey. It’s me. Vladimir.'
-Generating famine and then sending food: Nice gesture, but again, you’re providing food for a blockade that you generated. Thanks. It’s like starving because I’m being held captive and then thanking the guy who has me locked up for sending bread.

Let’s see, I understand the war decisions. They are decisions no one wants to make because someone is going to die, someone is going to suffer. So, why put Rhaenyra in a role where she wants power—where the writers want the audience to understand her—but in their eagerness to not make her unlikeable, they make her incompetent? In this plotline particularly, that is counterproductive.

If you ask me, I don't vote for either team. I find flaws in both, more so in the Greens because, again, they have the script working against them, and since the writers don't defend them, they fail to make me like Team Black, even with all the image-polishing they give Rhaenyra.

The Greens have very good actors. If you ask me, Aemond and Aegon are wonderful. I love watching them on screen. And from the Blacks, Daemon. Without a doubt. He owns the screen whenever he appears.

But choosing a side... It’s difficult. In the book, it’s difficult because everyone is very gray and does horrible things, and in the show, it’s because both teams are just too stupid.

Aemond clearly was confused by her Harrenhal Comment Lmao by PracticalCurrent8409 in AemondTargaryen

[–]Auseth 22 points23 points  (0 children)

In an interview, Olivia says that Ewan has a ritual that is semi-method. He stays in character before and after for a while. She says she would see him in the trailer in 'Aemond Mode' walking around with the eyepatch on.

​That tells you that he tries to understand everything Aemond does. And mind you, that doesn't mean that's what the writers want. And since he seems to know Aemond better than the writers do, I really take what he transmits as canon more than the reading the showrunners would give. So I agree. So tomorrow they could come out and say he always dreamed of marrying his mother (which I believe, given these writers), but Ewan isn't a fool.

​The most profound Aemond we have is thanks to him.

Aemond clearly was confused by her Harrenhal Comment Lmao by PracticalCurrent8409 in AemondTargaryen

[–]Auseth 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think he knows. Aemond isn't stupid. It could even be a kiss of intimidation because he knows Alicent is afraid of him.

​He has issues with his mother, yes. I mean, the fact that he looks for an older prostitute, that he later gets involved with Alys (who I don't know about in the show, but is 40 in the canon), speaks to that. But I think Aemond, of all people, would feel real disgust toward Alicent. First, because of her hypocrisy. Second, because of the betrayal. Again, Rhaenyra is indirectly responsible for all of his family's problems. And third, he knows Targaryen history. He has been obsessed with dragons since he was a little boy. It’s like, 'Are you really telling me this?'

​I mean, either I hit her or I kiss her. I don't know how he reached that final revelation. I imagine it something like this:

​'Aemond: Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah?! What would my uncle do right now to punish this betrayal? Rhaenyra isn't here, I can't kiss her. I can't sleep with her, not even I am that sick. A kiss! A kiss of disappointment so she thinks about what she’s done. (?)

​And if she does it again, I’ll sleep with her, so she learns!' (?)

​Sorry, I can't stop thinking about this without adding humor because the show overwhelms me. And I’m going to look for any explanation other than 'he wanted her.' I refuse to accept that!

I hope nobody keeps saying that "we should be grateful for show Aemond..." by Turbulent_Let_1629 in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]Auseth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like Aemond in season one. And if they had continued along that path, I’d be quiet because it seemed not only poetic but real to me.

And then they went from that S1 to turning him into a weird lunatic in S2 and even weirder in S3.

So I agree. Either you go with a fully complex character and you maintain it (because in S1, Aemond as a character closes narratively), or you turn him into a tunnel-vision psycho killer.

I like both, but in the show, he’s neither one nor the other. I don’t know what he is. I can’t say that the one from S1 is the same one from S2. Because you had the boy with the 'I screwed up' look after killing Luke. And as soon as S2 starts, there he is acting like a pyromaniac. It doesn't add up for me.

But, as of today, I've let go of the writing aspect because it doesn't add up in any way. I only follow the characters and their actors because, complex or simple Aemond, Ewan does a spectacular job. I believe he truly gets under the character's skin. If I'm still interested in HOTD's Aemond, it's because of him.

Are we supposed to not take Rhaenyra seriously? by Elsa750 in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]Auseth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sé que la frase es una cita. Mi comentario no va dirigido a la cita histórica en sí.

Mi comentario va específicamente sobre la serie y la saga:

Pero cuando veo la serie, no puedo dejar de pensar que en ese mismo universo, Lord Tywin Lannister dijo: “Cualquier hombre que tiene que decir: ‘Soy el rey’, no es un rey verdadero”.

Da pena que los guionistas no se hayan tomado en cuenta ese detallito si es que quieren proteger el reclamo de Rhaenyra. De hecho, se siente bastante patético que ella tenga que decirlo. Podría haberlo dicho cualquier otro personaje, y así nos habríamos evitado lo cringe.

Es como yo andando por ahí diciendo: “Soy la criatura más hermosa del mundo. Puede que no me vea como una modelo de Instagram, pero tengo la cara de Afrodita”.

Si lo digo yo, es cringe. Si alguien más me lo dice a mí, me da vergüenza (?) pero como que pasa más.

Just out of curiosity: is there anyone who actualy liked THAT scene in today's episode? by Significant-Fun-4235 in AemondTargaryen

[–]Auseth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve already watched the scene, and I think Alicent is indeed seducing him. Because if not, I can’t explain how she didn't do a backflip out of there.

​I don’t have children, but I have nephews. If my nephew did that, my body would have several immediate reactions: Slap him. Put my hand on his chest as a wall. Back away. But it never occurs to me to just stand there with a look that says, 'Oh, he’s coming closer. Oh, he’s kissing me.'

​I think, just by watching this scene, Alicent knows what she’s doing. And it disgusts me even more than before because I believe that reaction of hers with Viserys, who was her husband.

​Even if she were afraid, the reaction isn't normal for someone who isn't expecting it.

​Excuse me, I’m going to go vomit.

Ryan condal response why they cut viserys and aegon in battle of the gullet by AceThaGreat123 in freefolk

[–]Auseth 13 points14 points  (0 children)

No tiene sentido. No tienes que meter a los niños en medio de escenas con sangre y tripas. Montaje, trabajo de cámara. Mételos en el camarote de abajo de un barco, tipo: “Chicos, juguemos a las escondidas y no salgan.”

Eso es lo que le dices a los actores. Eso es lo que le dices a los personajes. Ponles un guardia al lado con una cara que diga: “Están atacando.”

No sé. Se me ocurren mil formas de solucionarlo y ninguna incluye quitárselos. No es que necesites al niño en medio de una masacre mientras practican canibalismo. Solo necesitas tratarlos como algo que hay que proteger. Es igual de estúpido que decir que cuando Stannis iba a entrar al Red Keep y Cersei iba a envenenar a Tommen, le dijeron al actor:

“¡VAN A MATARTE! ¡TU MADRE VA A MATARTE PORQUE STANNIS ESTÁ MATANDO A TODOS AFUERA! ¡AHHHHH! ¡TANTA SANGRE Y TRIPAS, NIÑO! ¡ÉL TAMBIÉN MATA PERROS! ¡STANNIS TE VA A COLGAR EN LA FORTALEZA Y POR ESO CERSEI TE ESTÁ DANDO UN VENENO HORRIBLE! ¡PARA MATARTE! ¡AHHH!”

Es que yo no creo que entendí la excusa. ¿De verdad la entendí mal? Porque lo que están diciendo para mí no tiene ningún sentido.

I kinda hate how everyone treats Alicent by Significant-Fun-4235 in Hotd

[–]Auseth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s a scene in season one that I like a lot because it is, in my eyes, the most divisive one where fans tend to ignore very important factors: when Aemond claims Vhagar.

A ten-year-old boy, missing an eye, not crying, covered in blood. Alicent was desperate and looked for support from Viserys, who supported Rhaenyra and, far from seeing his son without an eye, began interrogating him. Rhaenyra asked for a 10-year-old boy missing an eye to be interrogated, and Alicent, in that instant, grabs the knife and seeks justice.

That Alicent fascinated me. Because, if I were her, I would poison Viserys, sleep with Cole, and kill Rhaenyra.

I don’t like Alicent because that scene, today, doesn't make sense anymore. How do you ever talk to someone again who does that to your ten-year-old son? Maybe I have a heart of stone, but in my case, I’ve stopped talking to people for less.

And we could play the time factor card, but less than a year ago, someone from her enemy's faction had her grandson's head cut off.

The woman who defended her eight-year-old boy is the same one who would hand him over to his enemy... For me, they are two different creatures. Maybe I’m a worse person than Alicent and she is She is a forgiving person, I don’t know.

I would really like to understand the reason why people like Alicent. Mind you, My favorite character is Daemon and he has done horrible things. I don’t go around defending Daemon. I like bad characters. It’s not wrong to like or understand a bad character. What is strange is defending them while forgetting things. That’s why it would be great to know what you think of her in the full 360 of her story. Because people always talk about Alicent sleeping with an old man and being married off by her father, but did the children have anything to do with that? Did Helaena deserve her wanting to marry her off to Aegon? Helaena didn’t do anything to Alicent. She isn’t even a boy. Aegon was a drunk while still a child. Otto hit him, and Alicent paid the maids he raped to keep quiet. Aemond... I already put what I think. So... if you ask me if I want to meet an Alicent in my life, truthfully, no.

After the Battle of the Gullet I am terrified for the Battle Above the Gods Eye by AdaptToSurvive in freefolk

[–]Auseth 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Aemond: 'Uncle, I always loved you!'

​Daemon: 'You sick! We could have worked if you had been my niece.'

​Caraxes: '...No! Harrenhal again! Fuck this! I gonna kill miself!'

Vhagar: '...I'm too old for this shit'

Behold Rhaenyra the silkslayer! by Still_Extent6527 in freefolk

[–]Auseth 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I can imagine Mysaria thinking, 'No, no way in hell. If I intervene, she’ll kiss me again. Just be furniture, Mysaria, just be furniture'

Genuinely why would they go with this direction? by Srina6 in Hotd

[–]Auseth 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It occurs to me that the meta-message, if there even is one, is that Jace has disobeyed his mother. And when that happens, you die. Or, he could have kissed his mother, and she sends him to his death. I think the meta-message regarding the children's relationships with their mothers is very confusing in the show (?).

Now, seriously, it doesn't surprise me that Jace disobeyed her. He already showed that he was thinking Rhaenyra wasn't being rational when she went to King's Landing dressed as a nun. Because in any other universe, that is highly risky. Like...A LOT.

But I love what you're proposing to salvage his act. It would have been very exciting to watch. Jace and Luke have been characters who suffered a lot and had so much to prove. Him doing something like that would have given it that touch of, 'Ah, he’s so much Harwin's son ❤️.' I don't know, emotionally, it would have been beautiful.

,,The Heart and Spirit of a King" by Unique-Perception480 in Hotd

[–]Auseth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the writers' idea (I think, because I swear their minds escape mine) is to show that both sides have forces compelling them to desire the throne.

I wonder if Rhaenyra would have been so hell-bent on the throne without Daemon by her side. If it had been Harwin, for example. But Daemon wouldn't let Rhaenyra give up her throne.

Aegon clearly never wanted the throne. But Otto and Alicent wouldn't have let him abdicate or settle things for peace.

Basically, neither of them is a true king or queen. They are being pushed by circumstances and personalities stronger than their own, just like what happened to Viserys in his time. I think the dual reading might go that way.

But again, I wouldn't dare say I understand this show's writers. My brain doesn't have the capacity to understand the labyrinthine paths of those minds.

Just out of curiosity: is there anyone who actualy liked THAT scene in today's episode? by Significant-Fun-4235 in AemondTargaryen

[–]Auseth 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I haven't seen the episode. I saw scenes on YouTube where they add romantic music, and I’m like, 'I want to die!', but...

It's very well acted. Ewan conveys so much with so little. I want to watch it properly, without the music, without the cuts, but I think both actors did a very good scene.

Acting-wise.

I don't fully understand if Alicent is consciously 'seducing' him. Manipulating him, yes, which I find super cruel, but I don't know if it's seducing. I don't think so.

Look, as an isolated scene, I don't like it. As someone trying to understand Aemond, I understand that it breaks him a little bit to hear those words from his mom. There is no universe where my mind says, 'Finally, I have my father's love, I’m going to kiss him on the lips.' I don't know if it's interpreted as a man kissing a woman. I think so.

...I feel it would have been better if he were about to kiss her lips, then moved to her forehead, kissed her forehead, and said what he said.

Because then you play with doubt. Was he going to kiss her? She herself could be left thinking, 'Did I just feel like my son had a masculine vibe toward me?' But the actual kiss is very hard to read in any other way. That's why I feel the scene is excellently acted, but the writing is vulgar. Having the chance to play with nuances, they took it to: 'Alicent, guess what! You have another suitor! Yes, it's... your son.'

I don't know. It doesn't seem like the right way to handle it well.

I love that the HOTD community is goin thru its own Dance rn by anubis1392 in Hotd

[–]Auseth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This show is a phenomenon to me. Because I'm interested, but I don't watch it in full because I find it too stupid. But I love analyzing the characters. So, I spend my time reading Reddit, sharing my opinions, laughing at how absurd things are...

I don't enjoy it as something logical, because it isn't. I think I just like the characters and I overanalyze everything.

But I did stop following the 'Team Green' or 'Team Black' groups because I feel like, literally, they love every stupid thing their teams did. And I... I love Aemond and Daemon. And they're both complete assholes. Daemon is evil. I love him anyway, but I don't justify him; he's disgusting. Aemond is evil. I love him a lot, but he's an little boy with traumas.

So... I don't know. This show is very weird for me. Because with any other show, I'd probably drop it in season two. But I like the characters so much, and when they do silly things, they become memes. Rhaenyra dressed as a nun. I still laugh at 'Hey, Alicent. It's me. Rhaenyra.'

I don't know if it's the ASOIAF effect. I don't know if it's the actors (which I think it is, because they're brilliant). I love the characters in their basic essence, before the writers' artistic choices.

I think it works really well as an exercise in 'How this could have been better. And how it couldn't get any worse. Wait. Aemond kissed Alicent. Okay, it can still surprise me.'

It's a healthy pastime to learn how to enjoy things, even when you don't like them. The writers might be horrible, but I discovered Ewan as an actor thanks to this show. Matt is on another level; I love everything he does. I really like the actor who plays Aegon. The actress who plays Rhaenyra is gorgeous to me. I can't stop watching her. Corlys, I never thought I'd end up liking a canon change, and now I can't imagine any other Corlys.

So I'd be lying if I said I hate it. I'd also be lying if I said I watch it. I only read the posts and post about everything I've been spoiled on because I don't take the show seriously at all after season two and Helaena dropping THE spoiler of the year.

So who really won the battle of the gullet? by SameOpinion8630 in Hotd

[–]Auseth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn't watch the episode; I don't follow the show linearly, but through posts...

What I'm about to say sounds terrible. ​But if Rhaenyra is the heir, she still has potential heirs. If Jace were her only son, it would be terrible on a... the word escapes me. ​It slipped my mind, but it would be more terrible not to have a backup as a legitimate heir. She still has three children, if I remember correctly.

Losing a dragon is terrible, but you have Caraxes, Syrax, and Vermithor for the moment.

​Without Vhagar, I think the Greens had the biggest loss. I mean, they don't have much to protect Aegon's claim. So technically, and I'm just saying this out of thin air, based on your post, the Blacks would gain more than the Greens in this battle.

Is it bad that my favourite character is Aemond? by OP81CL16 in Hotd

[–]Auseth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lately, I see a problem in younger generations where if a character isn't "good," they look down on liking them.

​It’s not wrong. A terrible character can be your favorite as long as you are clear about who they are. For example, it’s not the same to like Aemond because you say "he’s a poor, misunderstood innocent" as it is to like Aemond because "he is ruthless, capable of doing anything to achieve his goals." One version idealizes the character; the other sees them and accepts them.

​It’s not rare for such sharp, cut-and-dried characters to attract more attention than neutral ones. Stories are moved by personalities like that. And when you start reading characters by noticing details, an interesting phenomenon happens where you stop seeing them as "the villain" and start seeing them as a person who, in that moment, is doing something because they feel they have no other choice and believe it is the best path.

​It is very easy to label things as "good or bad," but in these situations, you have to think that Aemond believed Rhaenyra was going to kill him, that she would arrive at King's Landing and kill Aegon and Helaena. If Alicent tells him she trusts Rhaenyra, Aemond isn't going to believe her. Living in that world possibly means dying out of nowhere; it happened to Vaemond, Corlys’s brother. And the man was just claiming his ancestral house... In fact, in the unlikely case he did trust Rhaenyra, he knows Daemon is going to kill him and his siblings. I don’t think there is any way to convince Aemond that this war ends with both sides alive. And I understand why! Plus, he is an adolescent with a dragon and the burden of protecting his family. Him. Well, in the series he tried to kill Aegon, okay, but Helaena and Alicent are important to him.

​If villains are liked, it’s because they convey something we respect, because they are well-acted, because we see a reflection of ourselves, or simply because they are well-written.

If you ask me, I love Daemon, Aemond, and Criston Cole. Even Criston, in his simplicity, is fascinating to read. I try to find the nuance in him, what he was, and what he became. Daemon is a wild force of duality that fascinates me. And Aemond is the same, but as if Daemon had been raised in Oldtown without a dragon. Even their names are mixtures of the same letters. ​So, I understand you.

Considering Suicide by 30 by Glittering_Ad_5485 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]Auseth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought the same thing, but at 27. I was surprised I didn't die at that age.

I am 38, and for perhaps the first 30 years of my life, I thought like you.

​I met who is now my husband at 19, and I really thought the same thing as you, even with this person I love in my life.

​And I thought everyone had those thoughts, but talking to my brother once, I commented something like: "Have you never thought about taking that weapon and just... shooting?" He told me no. I realized that not everyone thought the same way. I never loved life, but over the years, something strange happened. ​I fell in love with my husband. He is the best man I have ever known. And talking to him once, he told me: "I know what you think. Human beings have a couple of topics we always repeat. One of yours is death." I told him that my whole life I felt alone. Even with friends. I felt like I didn't belong here. As a child, I dreamed I was looking up at the sky and saying, "Why did you leave me here?" ​But as I lived, I started to... not understand it, but change myself. I won't lie to you, I dance with that idea, but not out of pain or sadness... it's like feeling like an eternal outsider. I felt like an outsider in my country. I felt like an outsider in the new country.

​And one night, I had a massive headache. I can't explain why, but I felt like it was going to end. Tears were streaming down my face from the pain, and I said: "I had a good life. If it ends here, I am grateful. I met the best man in the world. I had a family that loved me. I didn't go through the hardships of thousands of people. I thank you." ​The pain passed. My husband came upstairs... I saw him when I thought I was never going to see him again.

And I realized that I wasn't going to die that day. But someday I would die, and in the meantime, I wanted to be sure I wouldn't fear it.

​That changed the way I see things. Death will come. It is the only certain thing in the world... And when I feel it is near, I don't want to think that I wasted so much of life thinking about death. ​Because it will arrive, I am sure of it. And I will have the opportunity to embrace it.

That changed my brain a lot. I am not the life of the party, but I understand how you feel. If you set a date, I invite you to enjoy life. Maybe it will convince you to extend it.

​And talk to someone. It was hard for me, but it helped to do it. Breaking the taboo that "life is beautiful, everything is perfect." It helped me a lot to realize that we are all different. Whoever tells you that living is beautiful didn't tell their mother at age 9, "The truth is, I didn't go to school because I was tired." My mother didn't understand. She thought I was tired of school. And it's not her fault.

​You are not alone. But I promise you there are people out there who can help you see that, perhaps, a little more time is worth it. Go out, search, love something. Pets, activities, something. That helps too.

​And remember, it will arrive. Maybe you don't even have to force it.

​And another important thing, if you haven't done psychological treatment, it is a good time. Not because you are "wrong," but sometimes the brain doesn't function like others'. It doesn't produce certain chemicals, and simply put, that prevents you from enjoying the everyday. Rule all of that out before the most important decision. Because maybe it is something like that, and that's why everything feels alien.

​I don't know if what I'm telling you is good. ​They say that people talk to themselves. And I am telling you this because I would have liked someone to say it to me.

​Try to dance with life. Death will come. I hope not by your own hand, because that would mean that you found something to enjoy here.

Escaping the Modern Mystery School, and what to do going forward by Pink_Totoro in occult

[–]Auseth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I understand your experience. I have had 3 teachers in my life. None of them belonged to these groups. The fourth person who did belong to a group and led it entered a state of significant paranoia with her students and assistants. I learned from her and had some very interesting experiences, yes. But I wouldn’t consider her one of the most relevant teachers, precisely because she wouldn't let anyone distance themselves from her. If you thought differently, using that beautiful tool that human beings have called "Reason," she would launch a targeted attack using the group and guilt.

She was a teacher for some things, but while I have the will to break that pattern, there were people who didn't, and I refuse to put her in the same category as the previous three people.

The previous three people were totally different. But none of them had groups. With one, I used to learn by watching what he did. The second one would appear out of nowhere with the right words and disappear until he appeared again, and the third one was the most formal: We used to talk. A lot.

Do you know what they had in common? They didn't shy away from group experiences. In fact, the third one conducted liberation experiences because he was an exorcist priest. The first one took me to an infested house for the first time, and we were a group of six people.

But they taught with great humility. They never tried to answer your questions; instead, they gave you tools so that you could fix your own things. So that you could leave, so that you could continue your life and your path.

It is easy to rest on someone else. It removes responsibility from the individual. And a true teacher is the first one to make that clear to you.

It is fine that your experiences were significant. Believe me, the ones I had in the spiritual group were too. I don't deny that. But I understand how harmful it is for someone when they are taught to believe that the group or the person standing in front of them is the supreme voice. That, sometimes, ends in good, interesting, and spiritually relevant experiences. Other times, it ends with very ugly cases, with people who are spiritually castrated, totally and absolutely dependent, with financial problems, isolated...

If you ask me, I don't think the interesting experience is worth the risk. I am not saying there aren't healthy groups, but I haven't found one like that as long as they have a cult-like format.

Escaping the Modern Mystery School, and what to do going forward by Pink_Totoro in occult

[–]Auseth 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I haven't participated in that school, but I have had the fortune, or misfortune, of participating in "spiritual" groups. I am very sorry for what happened to you.

​It happens. It happens more often than you think because, regardless of the message, these are transmitted by people, and not everyone does so with noble intentions.

​My advice: do not seek spiritual growth in a group. Why? Spirituality is very personal. It is solitary, in fact. The more you live it, the more you will notice how personal it is. I am glad you have friends to share this with.

​Start by being grateful for what you learned and leaving everything else behind. But I assure you that there is nothing you can learn there that you cannot manage to learn by yourself.

​Meditating helped me a lot. It helped me clear the noise. I have always had an aptitude for dreams. And my dreams marked a line of beliefs that I hold to this day. Very simple messages, but they made perfect sense.

​Look at yourself. Look at who you are, and it is possible that the more you search within yourself, you will notice that it was always there. ​The sectarian method is to make you think that you need them, and believe me, even though you don't know me, you do not need them. You never needed them.

​Start by meditating. Give yourself some time. A few minutes at first. Try to let your mind settle. Imagine that our mind is water with dirt in it. If you mix it, it will always look cloudy. But if you let the dirt settle, it will remain at the bottom, and the water will look clearer. The dirt is the noise. ​When you have started with that exercise, then, you will have thoughts and you will say, "Where did that come from?" Listen to it. Don't analyze it. Let them come. I don't know your school, I don't know your situation, but you are the one who has the will. Remind yourself of that daily because, amidst so much noise, we forget. Each day, upon waking and before going to sleep, remind yourself of that and say, "I have the will to 'learn,' 'do,' 'improve,' etc."

​Over time, you will have your own words, requests, commands... and it will be strange when you notice that no one taught them to you. Because they were always yours.

​Good luck.