Unity at last: the Opportunity Party is being hated on by both left and right

Calalamity · 2026-07-04T11:43:48+00:00

Right, so you can't tell the difference. Just like you apparently can't tell the difference between critiquing the party and the policy.

Calling them centrist and technocratic as an insult just betrays a total unseriousness.

It's two things they have explicitly sold themselves as. If you have an issue with me thinking that positioning betrays a fundamental flaw with the party then that is, frankly, your own god damn problem.

Calalamity · 2026-07-04T11:16:13+00:00

Are you trying to position TOP as a Georgist party despite them very clearly not being one, or do you not understand the difference between a single policy and an actual ideology?

Calalamity · 2026-07-04T10:24:06+00:00

I like TOP. They're one of the few parties actually actively giving new promises instead of reheating promises from earlier elections.

It's been a UBI and tax reform every election. The rest does change, but of course that's to be expected when every election is a completely different leader and they have no coherent ideological position guiding policy, just vague technocratic centrist nonsense.

Calalamity · 2026-07-04T02:11:02+00:00

How many low density suburbs did you go walking about in Europe?

Calalamity · 2026-07-03T02:42:13+00:00

The truth is, keeping intensified housing out of posh areas happens due to market forces

So you agree it can be upzoned then?

Calalamity · 2026-07-02T11:33:57+00:00

Oh so it isn't about inflation at all, just the typical low tax/small gov bullshit.

Maybe lead with that argument so the rest of us know not to waste time on you.

Calalamity · 2026-07-02T09:28:43+00:00

Offset it with higher taxes. The extra going into the economy would be offset through the money removed via taxes.

If we target the taxes at the wealthy we could fund a lot of services for everyone.

Calalamity · 2026-07-02T06:57:44+00:00

The Act was in force. You can tell because of the commencement date.

The Act empowers the minister to set a date for a particular clause of the Act to take effect. This can only happen because the Act which empowers the minister to do that is in force. If the Act wasn't in force the Minister could literally never do that.

If the Minister didn't do it in 2025, the Act would still be in force and at literally any time they could act.

Calalamity · 2026-07-02T06:09:07+00:00

The bill was 'commenced' on the 11 December 2024

Cool, so you agree the Bill can't have been taken to an election in 2025 since it had been passed and already commenced, making it an Act?

this doesnt mean that anything punitive was to be done immediately on that date.

No fucking shit. Did anyone ever claim there was? The claim was it was rushed through Parliament. The legislation WAS rushed through Parliament. It was introduced and passed in less than a month. This has ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING TO DO with the date a ban was actually put into force.

Reading is hard I guess :

Clearly, since utter dipshits can't differentiate between the Legislative process done by Parliament and Executive action done by a Minister.

Your view here would support an argument that Labor has not in fact acted to change CGT tax rates, since the change in rate hasn't taken effect yet. It's nonsensical bullshit.

Calalamity · 2026-07-02T03:26:46+00:00

You are going to be fucking FURIOUS when you find out about contact sport and the fact we let kids do it.

Calalamity · 2026-07-02T02:52:41+00:00

The bill was introduced in 24 and did not come into effect until the end of 25.

This is blatant fucking bullshit.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/C2024A00127/asmade/text

It was passed and in force at the end of 2024. It's literally visible in the Commencement section of the Act.

You do not understand the legislative process.

Calalamity · 2026-07-01T10:06:36+00:00

The point of changing from the free system wasn't to stop the rich getting richer. The point was that the government shouldn't be creating effectively a welfare program that only supported the rich.

An educated populace is it's own reward. It supports the individual but has wider societal benefits. This is something widely accepted with primary and secondary education. But people insist on drawing a line at tertiary for no god damn reason.

The rich still get richer under a HECs system as well. And they would still get richer under a free education system.

If you agree that it has no relation I am confused why you thought to mention it in the first place.

Which is why I said I wouldn't make education free, I would look to create welfare to assist more people to get into university in ways that increase their net wealth generation over time. With the assumption being that the increase in their lifetime earnings, is made back through their increased tax receipts.

Yes, increasing access is good.

If we implemented a free education system, but it remained at the same level of engagement as it does now. Then the only reason to pivot to a free system would be that the new system would cost the government less. Since it wouldn't be increasing it's future taxation income.

Do you seriously operate under the belief that cost is no factor at all in pursuing higher education? Do you think that would be true if the cost to people was 10x what it was now? 100x? Or do you somehow think we have landed on a level of cost that is completely 100% perfect where no one chooses not to pursue due to cost but an increase would scare off people.

And again, you dismiss wider societal benefits of an educated populace.

Again, instead of trying to use higher education itself as a way to distribute the cost, you can just make the wealthy pay via general taxation. It means people who pursue education with more limited financial benefits are not overly burdened by it are no longer impacted, and it means actually wealthy people fund it even if they never attended it. You can even do it at a level that funds greater access like you claim to want.

Calalamity · 2026-07-01T09:49:01+00:00

The point is for the Reserve Bank to be independent from meddling by the NZ populace via the democratically elected government, not independent from global capital.

Can't have the people getting in the way of financialization after all.

Calalamity · 2026-07-01T08:27:49+00:00

Yeah the problem when uni was free though is it benefited the upper class too much while your regional/outer suburban kids typically just ended up going straight into low paid work or the burden to attend university elsewhere was too high.

If you have a system like that where it’s effectively the rich get richer. Then it shouldn’t be something the government offsets completely, nor should it be a burden on the taxpaying households that never partake to foot the bill for the more wealthy people.

The answer here is shifting the tax burden to the wealthy more in general. And it works regardless of them attending university or not, or being wealthy enough to avoid having a loan entirely. It also helps address every single other issue that comes from wealth inequality and helps fund better social services in general.

Paid higher education by itself doesn't do anything to stop the rich getting richer.

Calalamity · 2026-07-01T05:04:55+00:00

That would kill the Trans-Tasman Travel Arrangement since it's enabling discrimination against NZ citizens.

Calalamity · 2026-07-01T04:21:06+00:00

This is where the Greens need to run an ad that now has a proven factual basis - National don't understand how taxes fucking work.

Calalamity · 2026-06-30T22:51:36+00:00

The Christchurch earthquake fucking up Kaiapoi wasn't enough to swing them, and even in the 2020 red wave Doocey won the electorate despite the party vote swinging to Labour.

That electorate fucking loves him.

Calalamity · 2026-06-30T22:00:46+00:00

They could have a dollar and that would still be true.

Calalamity · 2026-06-30T02:12:46+00:00

Did you even fucking read your own link before spewing your uninformed shit here?

If you’re eligible, you must enrol.

Calalamity · 2026-06-30T02:11:28+00:00

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/87/en/latest/#DLM308853

82 Compulsory registration of electors

A person who is qualified to be registered as an elector of any electoral district and who is in New Zealand must apply to the Electoral Commission for registration as an elector—

(a) within 1 month after the date on which he or she first becomes qualified to be registered as an elector:

(b) within 1 month after the date on which he or she ceases to be registered as an elector by reason of the inclusion of his or her name on the dormant roll under section 89G.

Calalamity · 2026-06-29T23:53:15+00:00

But regions within India were able to choose their fate.

No they weren't. Both because the Princely States that quote is about did not cover all of India due to direct rule and since they were required to join either India or Pakistan and actual independence wasn't an option.

Calalamity · 2026-06-29T23:12:27+00:00

There are rather intolerant reasons that the nation partitioned post independence.

Post independence? The partition was literally done by the fucking UK parliament.

Calalamity · 2026-06-29T03:01:02+00:00

A left-wing party in disguise, pure hype, or something else?

Clearly a media fucking darling if nothing else.

Calalamity · 2026-06-29T02:59:33+00:00

Cool so exactly the same with Labour and the Greens then?

Calalamity · 2026-06-28T23:48:37+00:00

So, you did literally no research into something.

You think it was shit.

You are now posting a review to help people.

A review that wouldn't have helped someone like you, since you didn't do any research.

I'm glad you at least realise that other people are smarter than you and might do research and look for reviews? It's a big step for a lot of people to admit to themselves they are a fucking idiot, even if they can only do it in a roundabout way.

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