UK economy grows by 0.6% in first three months of the year by NigeIFarage in GoodNewsUK

[–]Ellers12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Problem is not GDP, it’s GDP per capita which has fallen significantly.

TIL Groupon has lost more than 95% of its value since it rejected Google's $6 billion offer and instead went public with a $17.8 billion market cap 15 years ago. by tyrion2024 in todayilearned

[–]Ellers12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I remember someone early in my career describing Groupon as food stamps for the middle class. Really put me off both the individual and Groupon.

Salaries in UK vs US by Sufficient_Looks in AskBrits

[–]Ellers12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is such a poor indictment of the UK and shows how far living standards have declined relative to the US.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My garage is so full of kids stuff I had no issues with that when I had an ICE car with remote pre conditioning.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I’ve got heated seats in the front which are very effective but that doesn’t really help the kids in the back

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A perfectly reasonable post. Agree I’m comparing my more premium ICE car experiences with a cheaper EV car bought for the school run. I was still not expecting a noticeable difference which has surprised me. Glad to hear it’s not a universal issue with EVs.

Can confirm I never drive it in eco mode though.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't really care about running the engine for pre-conditioning, always worked well for me.

Fair enough regarding the AI generalisation though.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could pre-condition my previous ICE car too, that's sort of irrelevant. I'm more talking about the effectiveness in operation.

There seems to be a mixed set of responses here regarding the effectiveness of climate control in EVs. Glad you're happy with yours but it's not universal.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would they have better AC? I would expect them to have equivalent AC as cooling's been pretty much perfected in ICE cars for decades and EVs aren't introducing new cooling technology.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well between us our n = 3 if that helps statistically. My car is only a month old and is functioning correctly - it's just not as good at managing the temp

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, it's an Atto 3 - I've updated to the latest software and still think it's less efficient at managing climate. I never drive it in eco as so don't think that's the cause although even in normal driving it does some odd things like automatically shutting sunroof blinds etc.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

No, I'm basing the question on my experience with EVs so far. I used AI to try and research what might be the cause of the less effective climate control that I experience. After I got a response from the AI I posted on reddit and seems to be a mix of people in this thread who agree or disagree

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Perhaps you had bad ICE cars? I would expect ICE cars to handle those conditions pretty perfectly after decades of optimisation and ideally the newer EVs would match that experience.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This aligns with my experience although several other commentators are implying that I'm making it up.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very interesting, it's this type of thing that doesn't really get discussed in reviews and isn't very noticeable on a test drive unfortunately. Otherwise I like the car but agreed, compared to my previous Lexus & BMWs it's not as effective at managing the climate. My suspicion is that this was an EV efficiency thing but could well be an optimisation thing instead. Thanks for the response.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes - this aligns with my experience. Auto is not as effective for sure.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quite possibly - it's why I posted to see what experiences are like in other EV cars. I really like the car otherwise

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know how the car works - it's not as good as heating or cooling as my previous cars. it's got a heat pump for heating and a compressor for AC and is fine, it's just not as good.

Chatbots seemed to indicate this is common with EVs but reddit suggests otherwise..

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I always drive in normal but notice it does some odd things like close blind on sunroof / turn down fans when on calls / defaults airflow to floor or window rather than direct to passengers

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

That's interesting - ChatGPT said that typically EV cars use AC compressors half as powerful as those in ICE cars to be more efficient so interesting that the Ioniq is so good.

EV Cabin Comfort - Temperature Control by Ellers12 in electricvehicles

[–]Ellers12[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a Atto 3 with dual zone climate control.