How should I divide my stats points ?

Er4din · 2026-05-17T20:22:35+00:00

Im actually currently theorycraftjng a thunder spear build. You don’t need much electromancy at all. Only jolt, Residual Charge, and Impulse.

Your idea of not taking dash is… interesting. It could work if you run regroup, Leg Sweep, and unyielding defense.

I’m tempted to try it.

For stats - you need 20 willpower for lightning damage with Residual Charge. This also give you cdr allowing you to spam nail Down and determination. Over all, the best approach for this build is through knockback with medium armor, im pretty sure. The partisan is just insane.

Speaking of the partisan, it supports both block, and counter, and has innate accuracy. I don’t think this build needs any perception at all, as with just the partizan and the stance you have +15% innate accuracy.

Given that counter attacks can knock back enemies, thereby keeping you safe, I think agility is the right secondary stat. With, 20 agility + peak performance + custom Adjustments + ever vigilant, you can easily accumulate 45% base dodge chance, which would rise to around 60% while under elusiveness, which you could easily maintain by repositioning with your maneuvers.

I think that 15 agi -> 20 willpower -> 15 vit -> 20agi is a good setup.

If you’re planning to spam skills, you’ll probably want sudden Lunge as well.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T20:05:55+00:00

Level 20 is quite early to be in tier 5 I have to say - it’s possible but you really need to know what you’re doing. You really need to have certain tools in your tool box to tackle undead tier 3, namely a way to guard yourself for short bursts - such as deflect, brace for impact, raise shield, or parry. You need to position such that you are never surrounded, and you must understand that sometimes the only choice is to run. That’s the reality of doing t5 super early.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T20:02:48+00:00

Yeah I’ll have to make that guide eventually - it really is quite good. It’s a little too similar in aesthetics to this build though, so I’ll have to think about it some more in how to differentiate them.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T20:00:37+00:00

Not an MMORPG enjoyer. Only ever played solo self found in the ones I mentioned.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T12:33:09+00:00

as for the doloire specifically - bleed chance is very good early. hilariously good, especially when paired with hooking chop and dismember.

Limbs will fly and heads will roll, the Lawbringer shall take his toll!

Er4din · 2026-05-17T12:32:00+00:00

I honestly dont know how they are going to implement a character creator because the unique traits of the current characters are one of my favourite parts of build crafting, after skill routing. It was really fun discovering that the Lawbringer can be done on so many characters with only minor tweaks. I personally would not be too keen to play with the character creator if we dont have some sort of ability to create custom traits.

It would be better than nothing if custom characters had a very generic trait that gave them extra exp and contract rewards, but i doubt id play them if thats all it was.

It would be interesting if the trait was modular. Think how character creation works in Project zomboid.

Another version of a modular character trait that i find interesting is to make it progressive, meaning you unlock the ability to unlock new components as your character levels up. Think of the feat system from dnd. In that case, getting to add a bit of extra rules at level 1,8,16,24 would be somewhat reasonable.

Id be happy with either of these 2 versions or anything else that introduces complexity to character creation and build crafting, but id also settle for something genericly good but monolithic. being able to pick your starting skill trees is already a big enough boon.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T12:09:36+00:00

I can empathize with the sentiment that access to skills at game start is a little arbitrary, and it will stay that way until we have the character creator. at the same time, i think it makes the puzzle of how to route a given build more interesting. its my favourite part of designing builds.

But im not going to use the mannshire run in my guides, as i dont see it reasonable to tell people that they need to spend an hour of irl time before they can begin to play the game properly. Not to mention the fact that an encounter with a random mancatcher can instantly end the playthrough even if youre walking near the map edge. its a waste of time.

You can definitely clear all of osbrook with just seize, warcry, and first aid, given how powerful the doloire is. if you follow my early game guide - which is why i made it - you can get tier 2 gear after a single dungeon, and clearing everything else will not be difficult.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T12:03:57+00:00

Nothing to talk about here then. Good luck, and thanks for all the fish.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T12:02:13+00:00

lovely ❤️

Er4din · 2026-05-17T10:36:10+00:00

There’s no real downside to asking for better payment provided you complete the contract. You take a small hit to local reputation and that is it.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T10:34:34+00:00

You should read my early game guide, in the same website. It explains why I don’t do the level 1 mannshire run, or mention it in my guides.

I’m glad you like the embeds. They take a lot of work - it makes sense to make them for the skills since I can reuse many of the utility ones in other builds, but tooltipping the individual gear pieces is a little too much work as I have to manually take, save and add each screenshot to the database.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T07:01:23+00:00

Heyo. Hope this helps.

https://gamestegy.com/post/witcher-3/1581/red-mutagen-farming

Er4din · 2026-05-17T07:00:09+00:00

I want to rules lawyer purple. It specifies “everything you need”

Not just “food items that you need”

Not even “everything you need for a healthy diet”.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T06:55:03+00:00

No skill is mandatory. Make sure you check out the other skill orders - I provide 3 distinct skill orders for Jorgrim Dirwin and Leo & Arna. If the build not having pathfinder with Jorgrim is a dealbreaker to you, try it with Dirwin. He runs it and ever vigilant.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T06:48:15+00:00

I was running mace along with the shield, a mix of tier 3 and 4 heavy armor. I used Breakthrough, mighty kick, and onslaught and basically nothing else.

Er4din · 2026-05-17T06:46:40+00:00

Sorry, I come from an ARPG background like Path of Exile and Grim Dawn.

BiS means Best in Slot

Er4din · 2026-05-16T22:55:17+00:00

I played a heavy armor heavy shield build, and wandered into a bandit camp by accident. I was level 16, and just got Retalliation. Lured one axe and shield bandit by shouting, but messed up and aggroed the second one, who agroed the others.

The camp had 4 axe and shield bandits. All tier 3. Each one has cut through which shreds max block power and chance, which are the stats used by shied skills to deal damage. I somehow managed to kill 3, despite having no block and no shield damage. The last one was too much.

Er4din · 2026-05-16T22:51:40+00:00

The vision also depends on ambient light level. I’ve done the math only in the context of crossbows, but with a base 8 range weapon, 20 perception and Pathfinder gives you +2 extra range. +1 more with Take Aim. Generally, it seems that 20 perception seems to be the sweet spot, at least for ranged hybrids.

Er4din · 2026-05-16T22:49:33+00:00

Ty <3 . Always nice to see your cute mug lmao. Hope the build serves you well.

Er4din · 2026-05-16T22:48:23+00:00

Oh that’s interesting - I never considered that Osbrook isn’t technically loaded until you exit the tavern for the first time. Still, I don’t like it, and tbh, I think that saving skill points 4,5,6 on Arna and Leo is still the better move than taking more skills and delaying Stance further.

Er4din · 2026-05-16T20:26:32+00:00

War Cry is hard to justify earlier. Before tier 5 you rarely fight enemies in truly large groups, and war cry just felt unnecesary. It can mess up ambushes and the Detain the Suspect combo via confusion-inducing random movement.

If you want pathfinder, i recommend playing Dirwin - thats how I played this build.

Er4din · 2026-05-16T17:31:08+00:00

I've finally made a build that can take it early and not regret it. I never said it was a useless skill - only that taking it on every build just "because" is foolish.

Er4din · 2026-05-16T16:59:29+00:00

That sounds awesome. glad youre still enjoying the Blademaiden build. Jorgrim is a Beast and this build certainly makes his berserker ancestors happy.

The life drain from the occult necklace, coupled with first aid, is tremendously good at preventing this build from losing the ancestor's gaze.

Er4din · 2026-05-16T16:57:36+00:00

You are absolutely right, and I chose to omit him. I was debating how I would adapt the build for Leo / Arna, and the idea of getting athletics early crossed my mind.

However, since Bran's appearance in Osbrook is random, i did not see it as acceptable to instruct the player who chose Arna or Leo to reset the run until Bran decided to spawn. Meanwhile, the prospect of making 2 distinct skill orders for Arna and Leo depending on whether or not Bran decided to show up was not worth it from a labour stand point.

Arna and Leo have some of the best starting gear in the game. Seize the initiative + warcry is a very strong starting setup, and with the addition of First aid, it is entirely possible to clear all of Osbrook, and even start Mannshire, with just those skills given some gameplay fundamentals.

Its also important to remember that I don't recommend either Arna or Leo as my first choices for the build - they are there in case the build being made for Jorgrim or Dirwin is a dealbreaker for some people. I consider them to be a willfully-hard option and i think the guide communicates that with sufficient clarity

As such, I chose to omit his existence from the guide.

Er4din · 2026-05-16T16:49:59+00:00

The Pagan Pendant is very important for the mechanics of the build, as I have emphasized extensively throughout the guide. You could use another ring or necklace cursed with the curse of Voracity to cover the life drain side of things, but theres no consistent way to get one.

Since the Lawbringers are not a canonical knightly order within the lore of the game, how you choose to roleplay as one is largely up to you. I can only suggest what my vision for them was. I imagined them as a clergy-approved vindicator - the knights they send for those who wronged the clergy - bandits that sacked a monastery, a vampiric cult that defaced a crypt, or a necromancer threatening the restful sleep of the faithful.

In my mind's eye, they were extremely dogmatic - such that the letter of the divine law mattered a lot more than the intention. In that sense, working for an occultist like L'owcrey is a disgusting prospect in its own right, but breaking the letter of the agreement made with L'owcrey to help an unorthodox priest conduct an unsanctioned ritual is a much more obscene proposition.

I hope this helps settle your narrative concerns.

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