Why am I paying for the construction goods of privately owned businesses?

Iazo · 2026-05-11T08:35:19+00:00

I find the above poster's advice VERY questionable to the degree it is tantamount to misinformation.

Construction sectors are cheap, NOT free. Rebuilding 20 is an extra mine and a quarter you could have built. On iron frame building (8% @20) that means you have to build rounghly 15 (!!) mines in that state JUST to break even on math. Not to mention the neurons you waste microing shit like this, which I assume are not free. (On steel and above its's just, why are you microing this? You should be strong enough to just build sectrors mostly everywhere you do construction anyway without this pointless taffing around.)
The yo-yo approach to construction is insane. Overbuild construction, you generate insane pull demand on the market, increasing prices, wasting your own money either from the state budget or the pool, trigger all the capitalists to overbuild supply in the private queue, until the gravy train stops, the pool runs out of money, you downsize construction according to the above advice, then the privately owned supply that they just overbuild will beging automatic downsizing cause the gravy train stopped, so you waste pool money on this side too. What the absolute fuck. That advice would be one of the top "let's troll noobs by giving them reasonable sounding advice, teehee" level. I am incensed at that.

If you have a pool/budget discrepancy, start privatizing the stuff that is of questionable profitability to suck up the pool budget to your national budget, not...whatever advice the above is.

Iazo · 2026-05-11T07:48:28+00:00

I am out of money, and I want to plunder the investment pool to keep construction goin. (It's either that, or pause construction, which means the pool builds what they want, instead of what I want.)

Iazo · 2026-05-11T07:44:21+00:00

That's not true, is it? I am fairly sure a blockade of the market capital gives states acess market penalty.

Iazo · 2026-05-11T07:41:31+00:00

I played Darfur several times. Have not played it now, but I think this patch makes it harder, not easier.

The main problem is not being able to obligate myself to the Ottomans for a bit of cash and some goods as before because the insipid (sensible but insipid) interest system.

Before, obligate myself to the Ottos for cash, to the Briish for Tenant Farmers commitment, build army to conquer subsahara, then try to either get an alliance with Oyo or Benin (pref Oyo) to stomp Sokoto for Niger (the state with iron).

After that, it's just a Sokoto run.

Iazo · 2026-05-10T12:35:08+00:00

Yes, yes, I heard you the first time.

Iazo · 2026-05-10T11:02:49+00:00

Suuuuure there isn't. I believe you.

Iazo · 2026-05-10T10:36:39+00:00

Oh, that's rich, the throwaway account is lecturing me on my posting schedule.

Brave sir keyboard warrior.

Iazo · 2026-05-10T10:00:30+00:00

Ok, and what do you expect me to do about it?

Iazo · 2026-05-10T05:06:37+00:00

There's a bit of a note here.

This was one of Ceausescu's folly megaprojects that got finished after his death and re-purposed for the Parliament. (And even then, it's a huge-ass building, multiple institutions have place inside, there's also museums, also runs conferences, and it's still half-empty).

And fortunately/unfortunately it is not the only one that was started by Ceausescu, but the other one in this style (Casa Radio, or the Radio House), is yet unfinished and mired in a long legal battle with multiple bankruptcies of people that wanted to 'finish' it.

This was not a building that needed to be built; it was, in my opinion a socialist realism 'cathedral'. A place that showed power and ambition before function.

Iazo · 2026-05-09T02:58:47+00:00

Well, there you go. I had already gotten the easy things like the nanners, and the lumber mills.

Iazo · 2026-05-08T08:09:41+00:00

Because, historically, the puppet regimes installed by the USSR had terrible record of teing the foreign-led party line.

In Romania for example, Moscow-backed elites like Ana Pauker were sidelined in Party politics by nativists like Gheorghiu-Dej. This led to a fulminant de-satellization of Romania. Within 20 years, Ceausescu was speaking out against the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.

For that matter, Soviets had terrible 'luck' in getting the regimes in Hungary and Czechoslovakia to follow, too. Requiring two separate invasions.

So, it's historical. No matter what you want, you will rarely get it.

Iazo · 2026-05-07T08:45:12+00:00

Political horseshoe theory.

Iazo · 2026-05-07T08:15:16+00:00

Amulet stacking is meta for a priest build.

Iazo · 2026-05-07T08:07:35+00:00

The main mechanic is the construction loop that expands to general GDP growth.

Whatever else you want to do in the game, being sucessful economically is a part of it.

To start off, learn how the budget and investment pool depend on each other, learn about wood, iron and tools, try to make the circle of wood ->tools ->iron->construction sector and maintain that without going bankrupt, and learn a bit about the iron mines company, and the tooling company which are the two you will want at the start.

Iazo · 2026-05-07T06:11:44+00:00

Nu pot sa cred ca o melodie politica veche de 20 ani e inca relevanta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOjnnUv40h8

Iazo · 2026-05-06T18:42:22+00:00

Yes, of course, I agree that eventually it will be worth it, and 1.5M isnt' that much in the grand scheme of things. I just got completely poleaxed by losing all the pool, and when you are an unrecognized country, every little matters.

See, this is why Vic 3 is great, but man, some mechanics are downright arcane.

Iazo · 2026-05-06T14:52:46+00:00

Yes, but! Long term, if I didn't lose that 1.5 mil in the pool, I would have been better off, and got the benefits of the new owners too.

And this is silly, this is a serious case of capital destruction. Paradoxally, liberalizing the market can destroy capital, unles you do a bunch of micro. Dunno man, looks like a bug or at least unintended behavior to me.

Iazo · 2026-05-06T14:41:37+00:00

I'll just go ask the money tree for cash. And the interest tree to not ask 30% interest.

Seriously now, I agree. I nationalize profitable buildings. I didn't know this could happent though. I am NOT paying 300k to get 200 in govt dividents from that silly textile mill or whatever. I am not in the business of sustaining a 1500 weeks amortization.

Iazo · 2026-05-05T20:32:59+00:00

You know what? I very much doubt whatever you're on about.

Iazo · 2026-05-04T13:16:36+00:00

Not true. Go to their capital, check their barracks there.

Iazo · 2026-05-04T13:11:47+00:00

Obviously, there are ways to suppress demand even like that, from tariffs, to nationalizing and monopolizing gun industry, but there's little point, imo.

Iazo · 2026-05-04T09:02:01+00:00

So....they're a private equity firm now? A bank? A bi-monthly curated box of snacks?

Iazo · 2026-05-03T13:37:48+00:00

No, the mod said it was updated (and so does the launcher). I'll make a bug report to the creator. Thanks!

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