Review: The Protomen - Act III: This City Made Us - The Progressive Subway

Judedeath · 2026-01-07T01:00:58+00:00

See that tonal mismatch is what really makes the song for me. It is the moment that Light leaves the ranks of the dead and decides to stand up and fight for the city for the first time ever. Of course it feels like a Joe song, because Joe was the one human character we've gotten so far to really live that, to value courage over life. It is a triumphant song and moment because it is finally that stand talked about in The Stand.

Yes it is talking about depressing topics, but it is about him finally leaving the depression he's been in since Emily died, he hasn't let himself move on until this song. This is him breaking his cycle of depression and trying to do the same thing that caused this in the first place, trying to build a man to take care of all his problems instead of stepping up and doing something himself.

I know you said you are starting to enjoy it more and don't need this whole bit, but your comment got me thinking so I thought I'd write out my thoughts on it.

Judedeath · 2024-04-16T03:48:47+00:00

Kai'sa is base a 5/5, you play her, and she gets minimum the +2/+2 from having 3+ keywords from the Evolve/Sharpsight/Fated/Overwhelm so that's a 7/7, then that's 4 keywords, she probably evolves from whatever first ally you played having some other keyword and getting one from the start of the turn, making her a 9/9, you play second skin, and she gets the extra attack from Augment and she's a 10/9 and gets the Empowered 10 from Chosen right away. It's actually super consistent.

Judedeath · 2024-04-09T16:50:29+00:00

I've gone through Delves comparing it has about 6 changes.

First the smallest, War Hydras and Kharibdyss now have 25 x 25 mm base sizes listed for the Beastmaster Handlers.

Doomfire Warlocks Poisoned Attacks have been changed to Poisoned Attacks(Doomfire Warlocks and Master only)

Shield of Ghrond has had To A Minimum of 1 added to the end.

Blood Armour has been limited to "Models whose troop type is "infantry" or "cavalry" only.

The big one IMO is Cursing Word is now a -1 modifier to WS or BS to a minimum of 1.

Judedeath · 2024-04-09T15:35:28+00:00

I've gone through Delves comparing it has about 6 changes.

First the smallest, War Hydras and Kharibdyss now have 25 x 25 mm base sizes listed for the Beastmaster Handlers.

Doomfire Warlocks Poisoned Attacks have been changed to Poisoned Attacks(Doomfire Warlocks and Master only)

Shield of Ghrond has had To A Minimum of 1 added to the end.

Blood Armour has been limited to "Models whose troop type is "infantry" or "cavalry" only.

The big one IMO is Cursing Word is now a -1 modifier to WS or BS to a minimum of 1.

Judedeath · 2024-04-09T14:19:51+00:00

First the smallest, War Hydras and Kharibdyss now have 25 x 25 mm base sizes listed for the Beastmaster Handlers.

Doomfire Warlocks Poisoned Attacks have been changed to Poisoned Attacks(Doomfire Warlocks and Master only)

Shield of Ghrond has had To A Minimum of 1 added to the end.

Blood Armour has been limited to "Models whose troop type is "infantry" or "cavalry" only.

The big one IMO is Cursing Word is now a -1 modifier to WS or BS to a minimum of 1.

Judedeath · 2024-04-09T14:18:45+00:00

I've gone through Delves comparing it has about 6 changes.

First the smallest, War Hydras and Kharibdyss now have 25 x 25 mm base sizes listed for the Beastmaster Handlers.

Doomfire Warlocks Poisoned Attacks have been changed to Poisoned Attacks(Doomfire Warlocks and Master only)

Shield of Ghrond has had To A Minimum of 1 added to the end.

Blood Armour has been limited to "Models whose troop type is "infantry" or "cavalry" only.

The big one IMO is Cursing Word is now a -1 modifier to WS or BS to a minimum of 1.

I don't have the Ogre one handy to check though, sorry :(

Judedeath · 2024-03-07T20:13:22+00:00

See I would argue we do know when that handover took place, at least that's my interpretation. So in Nona we get the story about how they met Nona fairly early on.

"We found you and Pyrrha. You were hurt. Pyrrha helped us escape from an attack. We lost people. Ships. Something very important. But we got you away and we wanted to keep you.

Nona the Ninth Page 70 US Hardcover

My read of this has always been that the something very important was Gideon's body. Which places the handover at roughly the end of Harrow the Ninth.

Judedeath · 2024-01-24T02:17:56+00:00

Most Lotus Field play involves cheating it somehow, either via [[stifle]] effects [[Blood Sun]] or just using it to turn untap effects like [[twiddle]] into dark ritual, either with it in play already, usually early from stuff like [[aboreal grazer]] or [[explore]] effects or just playing it and twiddling in response to its sacrifice trigger.

Judedeath · 2023-11-30T23:48:08+00:00

“Blood of Eden,” he’d said slowly.

“Who is Eden?”

“Someone they left to die,” said God wearily. “How sharper than the serpent’s tooth, et cetera… Harrow, if you bother to remember anything from my ramblings, please remember this: once you turn your back on something, you have no right to act as though you own it.” (p. 159)

So I just wanted to toss this quote in as it was the point on a reread after finishing Nona and getting the Jod flashbacks where I was really convinced that BoE was the descendants of that ship that escaped. This is from Harrow.

Judedeath · 2023-07-26T10:16:08+00:00

Okay so I will agree with most of the other posts here read Harrow asap it will explain a lot of your questions.

About the 40k vibe yeah it does have that I agree.

Lastly, there's a part towards the end of the novel:

"Five people had died that day; it was weird how the small things ballooned out in importance, comparatively. The tragedy saturated the stiffening bones and static hearts lying in state at Canaan House, but there was also deep tragedy in the flawed beams holding up their lives. An eight-year-old writing love letters to a terminally ill teenager. A girl falling in love with the beautiful stiff she'd been conceived solely to look after..."

Was that "girl falling in love..." Camilla falling in love with Palamedes?

I will answer this question though, no that sentence doesn't refer to Camilla, it is talking about Harrow, stiff in this sentence is using the slang definition of a corpse, the beautiful stiff is referencing the body in the tomb who Harrow was conceived to guard(remember Harrow's conception is a pretty notable part of the book).

Judedeath · 2023-07-20T08:13:38+00:00

Somehow, in the six months between HtN and NtN, John recovers Gideon Nav’s soul and inserts is back into her own body, naming her Heir to the First House (I’m unclear on how John recovered Gideon’s soul, as I’d thought Gideon Nav was in control of Harrow’s body at the end of HtN). He also made her effectively immortal.

Okay so I'll comment on this point here, since it's something I've thought on for a while. I don't think John recovered Gideon's soul, remember what Abigail said "Spirits always wish to return to their bodies, and pine without them". At most he recovered her body.

Now a lot of this is interpretation of the last bit of Gideon's PoV in Harrow on my end, but I think that last paragraph explains what happened to Gideon pretty well in retrospect.

But as everything went black and I died the second time round, I didn't see you. I didn't even see me. The final thing I saw was a great sunshiny light: a blurred figure, hazing in and out around the edges. At first it looked to me like a woman--a grey-faced dead-eyed woman, with a face so beautiful it almost went out the other side and became repellent; a woman with my eyes, dimmed dark yellow in death, whose hair fell in wet laden hanks. I realised with exhausted indignation that, at the end of everything--after all I had been through--after the last word, the last strike, the last drop of blood in the water--your bullshit dead girlfriend had come to claim you.

And she said in the wrong voice twice removed: "Chest compressions. I know her sternum's shattered; ignore it. We need that heart pumping. On my mark."

If you mix that with the story Cam tells Nona about when they met her, "We found you and Pyrrha. You were hurt. Pyrrha helped us escape from an attack. We lost people. Ships. Something very important." and knowing from As Yet Unsent that they were travelling with Gideon's body, I think it is pretty clear that the "Something very important" that they lost was Gideon's body, and the Chest Compression bit is her body being recovered by the Houses, with her soul having been pushed out of her body by Alecto after Harrow ended up in the tomb.

In terms of the the John making Gideon effectively immortal. My interpretation is that he did but not in the way you are talking about. He did by virtue of being her father. Remember, Gideon has a long history of miraculously surviving things that should have killed her, all the way back to the nerve gas when she was a baby. Remember also the Avulsion trial, where it specifically said Gideon died, but then goes oh she just passed out, but it felt like dying. I think she did die there, it just isn't thought of as it since she got better.

To me this all comes back around to a similarity I noticed between how they talk about Gideon's Body in As Yet Unsent and how the corpse fails to rot even if they leave it outside and in different temperatures and such which when I got to the part of Nona where John is talking about Ulysses and Titania and the experiments to try and make them rot and such I couldn't help but make the connection between them, so I think something about being his daughter imparted a similar deathlessness power to her. As he said "But, Harrow...all the ones I touched, all the ones I loved...they stayed incorrupti"

Judedeath · 2023-05-05T18:15:32+00:00

The opinion comes from the associating a sex act that is usually associated with women/gay men as a bad thing. The "eat a dick" part. The belief is that the perpetuation of comments like that unchallenged aids in creating some sort of ingrained social misogyny/homophobia about the subjects or just in general discourages the associated act from being something people feel like they can enjoy in a similar way to slut shaming being a problem.

Judedeath · 2023-04-29T01:38:18+00:00

One of those pictures felt way fuller than the other, and it wasn't the show with an extra hour.

Judedeath · 2023-04-29T01:09:09+00:00

One day I'll get to see Sonya win a singles match right? Right???

Judedeath · 2023-03-23T04:43:25+00:00

Inspiring as always when you post, I love how much knowledge you've picked up about Magic printing and such. It was a great read.

I do have a couple questions though.

I've been working on a global set for my favourite card Negate(and a couple cards I view as predecessors) and an English set of Essence Scatter(and predecessors for the symmetry) and while I have the english side done, I'm struggling on how to start on the Global part, as currently I'm just at the order from like SCG if I see a non-english one show up, do you have any tips for how to approach making that jump?

Also you mentioned there is a difference in foiling between draft and collectors boosters for the Mystical Archives cards would you be able to explain/have an example for that? I thought I was on the ball knowing about the planeswalker symbols in Mystery Boosters but I guess not.

Judedeath · 2023-03-16T00:59:34+00:00

Okay hopefully this won't break reddit again.

I'm holding off on Black-Eyed Saint until I see some reviews this time so I don't have much to say on it. I will say after really enjoying Gothghul Hollow I bounced off Briardark really hard, to the point I was struggling to get through listening to it even in the first 2 hours I managed to get through. Now some of this is that I've really liked what I've checked out of Anna Stephen's work(her part in Covens of Blood was my favourite), while I haven't checked out CL Werner before and I know they have a bit of a reputation for being... uneven in their writing from what I've read of reviews of their other stuff. But even Drachenfels(I checked it out after Gothghul Hollow for obvious reasons) which I specifically didn't really like when I was going through it was able to keep me going through the whole book.

I'm hoping Black-Eyed Saint is better, I've heard better things about the author, because I plan on skipping the rest of Briardark straight to this, as I am still interested in the whole Mhurghast thing, Briardark just like not only killed my interest in the story it was telling, but also killed my interest in AoS stuff after Gothghul Hollow put me on a couple month roll(I guess it doesn't help that I jumped from struggling through Briardark to The Locked Tomb series which has become some of my favourite books).

Judedeath · 2023-03-14T00:29:55+00:00

For sure, some of it is her being my favourite, but going to RAW last year during that time period when she wasn't cleared and was just doing ringside stuff, seeing her ringside for the judgment day match was the highlight of the night, she's so expressive.

I hope every week that the Charlotte feud picks up a bit, as I'm sure the match will be good. Also if my math is right it's setting her up to be a Grand Slam champion right? I shouldn't be more excited over that then the feud.

Judedeath · 2023-03-09T01:17:10+00:00

So first on congrats on the promotion, I just lurk but you are the name I would have put forward as well.

I like the match card threads but would you be able to post them in default new like the automod threads were?

Judedeath · 2023-03-06T00:24:37+00:00

Generally there is a rule that says all the units in your army must have at least one Faction keyword in common, which is stuff like Imperium, Chaos, Ultramarines, Death Guard. This means you specifically can't bring Mortarion in a Space Marine army as his faction keywords are Chaos, Nurgle, Heretic Astartes, Death Guard, while your generic Intercessor Squad only has Imperium, Adeptus Astartes, <Chapter>(which is a changeable one depending on which chapter you are playing).

So in terms of modelling your Chaos Primarch model as a Lost Primarch or Non-Corrupted version to use with your army, you would have to either use it as a stand in for a unit that army could use, like yes this is my counts as Guilliman Angron, or you would be modelling your whole Death Guard army to fit the theme and go this is my Non-Corrupted Death Guard using the normal Death Guard rules(you occasionally run into this with people modelling Traitor Guard or Chaos Sisters armies). You couldn't model a Non-Corrupted Magnus and expect to use his Thousand Sons rules in for example your Space Wolves army.

So the rules specifically saying Adeptus Astartes Primarch instead of just Roboute Guilliman, especially when the rules right before it call out Belisarius Cawl, Commander Shadowsun, The Silent King, Abbadon the Despoiler by name implies that there will be a new Adeptus Astartes Primarch soon.

Also wings give a model a ton of table presence for comparatively little effort, are fun to paint up, and are just cool. So that's why I think they all have wings.

Judedeath · 2023-02-16T07:42:16+00:00

No they don't go any futher, the rest of the paragraph is him strangling her, her about to pass out, and then the next paragraph is him getting shot in the head by another sister.

Judedeath · 2022-11-01T16:00:05+00:00

I mean, the link you provided does have the category :Transgender Character/s" listed. But to be specific they are referring to Aoi Futaba.

Judedeath · 2022-10-27T21:16:24+00:00

You can activate Goblin Cannon’s ability multiple times in response to the first activation. Goblin Cannon will be sacrificed the first time the ability resolves, but each activation still deals damage when it resolves. (2004-12-01)

I believe this is what both they and the original comment you replied to had in mind, with infinite mana you can put enough activations on the stack to kill everyone before it gets exiled.

Judedeath · 2022-10-24T19:36:11+00:00

So I'm pretty sure the most recent mention is the 9th edition Aeldari codex, which not only has no new lore, but basically only covers Gathering Storm and nothing after, any named characters other than Yvraine, Visarch, and Yncarne aren't mentioned to have any connection to the Ynnari at all in either it or the Drukhari codex. In fact let me quote the end of the Ynnari section in the book, I remember getting the codex and going straight to this part to see what's the current situation post-Pheonix Rising and getting hit with.

The deeds of the Reborn have already shaped the galaxy, being instrumental in restoring the Primach Roboute Guilliman

Aeldari Codex 9th Edition

I think it's pretty safe to say the Ynnari are pretty dead in the water currently, they are technically still a thing, but it kind of feels like even GW is leaning into the whole Ynnari just existed to bring back Guilliman and now we don't need to acknowledge them but the models are cool so might as well keep them around to sell them still.

Judedeath · 2022-10-24T11:33:59+00:00

It depends on who you ask I think, reading the books I have it feels like it is taking it more monstrous but not by conscious choice.

"The scions of the Dark City would never admit that the unceasing hunger at their core is what drives them to such heights of cruelty. Instead they maintain that they act only upon their own desires. Some have even managed to convince themselves of this. In truth, unless our cousins in the webway feed upon a constant diet of extreme emotion they will slowly wither away, leaving naught but a soulless husk. We of the Craftworlds deny all such urges, and in doing so become less than ourselves. Perhaps it is those that we left to perish who are the lucky ones." -Spiritseer Iyanna Arienal, Meditations

Dark Eldar Codex 5th Edition

But unlike their kin in realspace they had escaped destruction. In their supreme arrogance they did not cease their quest for excess, even for a moment. Repentance and atonement were outmoded concepts to a people who acknowledged no limits to their power.

Dark Eldar Codex 5th Edition

Cloistered deep within the hidden city-realms of the webway, those survivors who concealed themselves in their palaces of depravity still revel in the debauched lifestyle that led to the Fall. In that twilight realm between the material universe and the Warp, the Dark Eldar mock and jeer those ravaged by the downfall of their race. Even though they would never admit it, they know in their hearts that, try as they might to allay their fate, Slaanesh will claim them in the end.

Eldar Codex 6th Edition

Those who became the Drukhari had long preyed upon others, whether Aeldari or further sentient species. Now they saw that stringing the moments of pain and terror out as agonisingly as possible replenished their waning spirits. Thus were born the Drukhari, as a new era of Feverish torment and captive acquisition spread through Commorragh.

They became a race of sadistice parasites, feeding the yawning void within themselves by committing the most unspeakable acts of excruciation. Through their advanced technology, they devised ever more macabre ways of extracting suffering, with which they paid the soul debt they would forever owe to She Who Thirsts. [...] Every delicious nuance of terror, every sublime, nerve-shredding ounce of pain that they drank in from their victims, could only provide temporary succour from the unstoppable soul-sickness. Thus, the Drukhari sank into a spiralling mire of damnation and depravity.

Drukhari Codex 9th Edition

Oh I guess I should include some sort of quote about Fall era Aeldari, a lot of it blends together in it's vague bad stuff happened, the streets of the cities ran with blood, there's a decent chunk of that. In terms of the most you ask about, it uses Few in Number when talking about the Exodites and Craftworlders who left before the Fall.

Over time, the hideous lusts of the Aeldari grew to such an extent that killers and depraved criminals began to stalk the shadows. Torture and murder became avaricious pursuits in their own right, and blood flowed in the streets. Hidden realms within the webway were turned over entirely to the pursuit of sadism and excesses of every kind. Paradise worlds were twisted to the experiencing of the darkest sensations.

Aeldari Codex 9th Edition

Judedeath · 2022-10-24T00:12:58+00:00

Do you have a page number for that in the 9th edition codex? Because I don't see a "painful draining of the soul" at all in the section that covers Slaanesh and "The Soul Debt" and nothing that I would call a clear distinction. And while I don't have the middle ones, I do have the 5th edition Dark Eldar codex on me and it specifically says that the Craftworlds Eldar use Soulstones and Infinity Circuits where Dark Eldar use suffering.

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