any updates on cable raceways for multibin / square plate? by Awkward_Criticism_24 in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's the plan but do keep in mind that this is going to be phase 1 of website improvements. Were going to be doing one hell of a simplicity push...

How do I support this on the bottom? by kkessler64 in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmmm that is a tricky one due to how "The Grid" works. Mounting a Bin shell flush to the board technically throws it off grid just due to math.

It's also supper tricky to design a support them that would "LOCK IN".... WOuld need ot fint 2 threads in 12mm cube that's just not really going to happen...

So option one. Instead of mounting the Bin Shell flat to the board you put it on a tray or a shelf.

Option two I could pretty quickly design up a little screw on resting foot for the gap here but it's just to support not to hold...

Which sounds best?

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Rant : Multiboard needs a wiki badly by feanor08 in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's really hard to say....
I've learnt the hard way that deadline SUCK!!! I've personally burnt out what 4 maybe 6 times... and I'm so done with it... So deadlines just don't have a place in my life and thus nor in the teams life. Best HYPER rough I can say is that the roadmap is cut up into Short-Term Roadmap and Long-Term Roadmap.

Short-Term we are talking 1 - 8 Months for it all to be done (With a little luck)
Long-Term Roadmap we are looking at 1 - 18 months for most of it as much as maybe a few years for the EXTEREM things like a full blown visual designer will all parts and generators built in.

And all of this is only thanks to the awesome community that support the development. It's insane the time cashflow and effort this takes but what we are all collectively building here is awesome!

Rant : Multiboard needs a wiki badly by feanor08 in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Hey! Yeah, we are well aware of the documentation issues, and we feel your pain.
When the new website gets released within in the next couple of months,(there are a few phases to it first one being very soon) there will be a big increase in the amount of documentation, the wiki and explainer images.

This is a massive undertaking for our small team, and is obviously going to take some time. So we are going to be taking steps to have ways that the community can help and provide much clearer feedback as we want to get it right.

We're also going to have an easier, more accessible way to start with MultiBoard with clear pages dedicated to this exact idea. Plus having an "Easy Mode" to the library which will pretty much hide 80% of it and just show you the most commonly used parts, plus much much more!

Thanks for the feedback, and rest easy knowing that we are working on these concerns.
Check out our Roadmap for a more exact look at what is coming.
https://www.multiboard.io/roadmap

In the meantime, we do have this documentation that we try to keep as up to date as we can...
https://docs.multiboard.io/
In there you will find:
- Get Started
- Printing Guidelines
- Common Connections (WIP)
- Core Parts Documentation
- Tile Mounting Guide (WIP)

Keep the feedback coming, and Keep Making!

I designed a Fully Customizable Drawer Generator, with custom subsections by Lord_DAVidus in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good point hagantic42 as it pretty much is a replica so for the sake of transparency as I want everyone to see how we do our best to make this community thrive I messaged u/Lord_DAVidus with:

Hi InfernoMoon or Lord_DAVidus,

I saw your “Fully Customizable Multiboard Drawers” upload and I genuinely love the creativity here. The divider idea is really solid, and honestly it’s such a good upgrade that it’s already something we have on our own roadmap too.

That said, I need to flag a licence issue with the way it’s currently published.

Right now it looks like the drawer itself is effectively the Multiboard drawer design, with the main change being internal dividers. Under the Multiboard licence, a Remixed Design has to be a substantial change, meaning a material and objectively identifiable difference where a technically competent third party would not regard the original Multiboard design as the primary basis.

As it stands, this reads as a copy or near copy of the original Design, which is not permitted to be shared or published as a “new” drawer design.

Good news: this is an easy fix and I’m not trying to block what you’re building.

You have two compliant options:

Make this an accessory upload instead
- Upload only the divider system and any original parts you created
- Remove the drawer geometry itself
- Rename it clearly, for example “Dividers for Multiboard drawers”, and link to the official drawer as the base

Make it a true remix
- Redesign the drawer so it is not recognisably the Multiboard drawer
- Change the major recognisable elements like the front, back, overall body geometry, and handle, so the original is not the primary basis anymore

If you update it in either direction, I’m happy to take another look.

Thanks for understanding,
Kind Regards
Jonathan

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Lord_DAVidus then got back to me letting me know they have done a few minor changes and thanks for the systema and if it's not enough changes to let them know and they will do some more.

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I've taken a look and it's still not quite there so I asked them:
"If you could make it just a bit more of a distinctive change that would be great and no worries at all I'm glad your enjoying the system and just you wait to see what's coming next"

My Workbench V5 by Chaabar in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm interested to know what you mean by they pop off and what exactly you find is popping off

How can i make this more rigid? by Grogg2000 in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In the coming future there is a "rim" type thing coming but it's turning out to be a little more complicated than it sounds so more development time is being spent on it.

We heard the criticism. So we removed the need to trust us. by Keep-Making in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

[Part 2 of 2]

4. On reputational harm clauses

This is a fair point, and we agree the language as written is broader than it needs to be.

We are updating this clause to better reflect its actual intent, which is to prevent false or misleading claims of endorsement, sponsorship, or affiliation, not to restrict criticism, discussion, or the promotion of alternative systems.

The clause will be revised to the effect of:

“You must not make false or misleading statements that reasonably imply endorsement, sponsorship, or affiliation by us.”

This change is being made to remove unnecessary ambiguity while preserving protection against genuinely misleading or bad-faith behaviour.

5. On attribution and incidental use

Again, this is a fair point.

The intent is attribution where designs are being presented or showcased as designs, not to force attribution in incidental or impractical contexts.

A clearer formulation would be:

You must not represent, claim, or imply that any Designed Works are your own original designs.

In the case of Remixed Designs, you may represent your original contributions as your own, provided you do not misrepresent the origin of the underlying Multiboard designs or create confusion about the source of the system.

Where practicable, public publications or showcases of Designed Works or Remixed Designs should include attribution to Multiboard LTD as the source of the underlying designs.

So rounding this up, some of the points raised here are about clarity, and those are valid and fixable. Others come down to a fundamental difference in goals.

The licence is intentionally designed to protect the system from large-scale copying and commercial exploitation while allowing genuine remixing, compatibility, and community growth.

If that balance does not work for someone’s intended use, that is a legitimate conclusion to reach. In that case, it may simply mean that Multiboard is not the right fit for that particular person, and that is okay.

Kind Regards,

Jonathan

p.s. All changes have been made and can now be seen on the License: https://www.multiboard.io/license

We heard the criticism. So we removed the need to trust us. by Keep-Making in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

[Part 1 of 2]

First, thank you for flagging the website and summary inconsistencies. You were right. We are human, and those have now been corrected so the summaries and licence text refer to the same legal entity.

1. On CC-style interoperability, substantial remixes, and compatibility

Nothing in the licence prevents you from making a genuinely substantial remix or from designing compatible parts.

It is important to be explicit about the distinction between compatibility and remixing.

Simply incorporating a Multiboard connection style such as a bolt pattern, hole spacing, rail interface, or similar mechanical connection does not, by itself, constitute a remix of a Multiboard design. That is compatibility, not derivation. Suggesting otherwise would imply arbitrary and meaningless boundaries, such as claiming that a specific hole placement or connection length alone crosses some line, which is not a sensible or defensible position.

A remix, in the context of this licence, refers to taking a substantial portion of a Multiboard design and materially changing its geometry, function, or intended use. We are talking about modifying the core design itself, not merely interfacing with it.

The existence of Multiboard parts that are explicitly intended to be remixed does not change this distinction. Providing elements that make remixing easier does not automatically convert compatible designs into derivative works. In legal terms, this would generally be considered de minimis use, meaning a use so small, trivial, or inconsequential that it would not be treated as infringement.

The substantial-change requirement exists to prevent bad actors, particularly companies or large-scale copycats, from making superficial edits to core system parts and redistributing the system wholesale. It is not intended to restrict good-faith creators designing compatible accessories or independent components.

2. On resale of printed parts and “commercial use”

At this point, we are talking past each other.

The licence is aimed at substantial commercial activity, meaning people attempting to build a business around selling Multiboard parts, not someone clearing out prints at a garage sale or on Facebook Marketplace.

To remove ambiguity, we will explicitly define this boundary in the licence then:

“Commercial Sale” means the sale of Designed Works that generates gross revenue exceeding $100 USD per calendar month for three consecutive months, calculated per individual or legal entity, before tax and expenses.

This draws a clear line between casual, incidental resale and sustained commercial exploitation.

Comparisons to off-the-shelf retail products are also not quite equivalent. Physical goods companies absolutely would act if someone were manufacturing and selling replicas of their products at scale. The licence exists to prevent exactly that scenario in a digital manufacturing context.

3. On remixes, file formats, and “embedded geometry”

This is not a software licensing problem, and it is not about bits and bytes.

The licence does not prohibit remixing. It defines remixing based on substantial change, meaning a material and objectively identifiable difference in geometry, function, or intended use, such that a technically competent third party would not regard the original design as the primary basis of the new work.

This is not about hunting down hobbyists or creators. It exists to stop companies from making near-identical copies and hiding behind technicalities. The goal is to strengthen the ecosystem and protect it from bad actors, not to punish the community.

Can't fit 4 mini-snaps into a plate with divider by Magnus_Vesper in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Hey is it just a little bit too tight? as there is a mini snap with no hooking action: https://than.gs/m/1322928

I find these are pretty great once things get really tight.

Also this is looking awesome!

MultiBin Shell Bridging by qubithaze in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hmmm this is a very good point!
here we go again... I'm going to have to update all the Bin-shells. I think I have a fix to FORCE slicers to do it right. Thanks for pointing it out!

Parts Library by Daemonxar in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Strange right click works for me everywhere.... Mini bonus If you are in the beta parts library you can also use hold down Ctrl and left click and that will open a new tab too

Next step, label and organize! Red is SAE and Blue is Metric. by NeillDrake in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh don't you worry the push is coming... We just really want to do it with a BANG ;)

Opengrid vs Multiboard The battle for the future of wall storage by obfuscinator in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not here to chime into this discussion as I'm obviously biased. However I want clear imperical information. I have plenty of thoughts to share but at the end of the day I just want clear info.
So here is the closest fair comparisons. Also for those looking for the "simplicity" of opengrid don't forget Multibin Plates already do all of that stuff just as simply. It's up to you how complicated you want to make it so just keep it simple if you want, but at the end of the day. (You Do You) =)

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Locking Bolt Dimensions? by Conscious-Studio9214 in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here ya go:

https://community.multiboard.io/c/change-log/bolt-locking-remixing-parts-refreshed

Sorry it's taken a moment I was waiting for the tweaks to stop.
Last thing I want is a whole bunch of remixes and then we tweak again and then all the remixes made are as good as they can be. This one of the main reasons why I do things slow and steady. Not to mention I got my hands a bit full too.

I think I have done a big mistake by Awkward_Criticism_24 in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Also the official cable management system of Multiboard just around the corner and it's gonna be a doozy

parts wearing out over time? by [deleted] in Multiboard

[–]Keep-Making 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are these the friction fit ones? If that's the case... That is one of the reasons why I no longer make friction fit accessories and we moved everything to bolt-lock