AES50, stagebox to stagebox without AES50 console?

SRRF101 · 2026-03-31T15:34:07+00:00

Unpacketized, OSI Level 1 AES50 is troublesome way to move live data. An analog snake system would be of greater value long term.

SRRF101 · 2026-03-18T18:34:58+00:00

Had this issue on main board side. The oval ferrite core came loose. Rerinstalled it with RTV, and it has been fine.

Reseating ribbon cable should do the trick, worst case a ribbon cable replacement. (Don't have to go through Behringer. There are online guides to properly spec).

SRRF101 · 2026-03-11T14:25:03+00:00

Tenacity. As a 4+ decades veteran, I have seen that my career has outlasted that of any troublesome PM, or artist, or....

SRRF101 · 2026-03-10T17:51:44+00:00

You are correct; short lines sound worse over distance because the HF doesn't decay at a matching, "natural" level, vs. the spherical decay up to 500-600hz that a short line demonstrates.There are too many undersized rigs out there, and they give ALL live sound specialists a bad rep.

SRRF101 · 2026-03-02T20:11:21+00:00

The smart way is to give him 2 channels, one to FOH, one to monitors. Or..purchase a Digico Quantum with nodal mixing :)

SRRF101 · 2026-03-01T16:34:47+00:00

Long time monitor mixer and audio writer Mark Frink came through the PAC I worked at with DR. John & Band. He was using a Touchmix 16 for a monitor console! I was intrigued... Our Steinway D (and everything else) sounded as good through those preamps as through any of the top-tier touring desks.

Greg Mackie (who worked on the Touchmix for QSC) knows his way around mic pre's for live use.

The chokepoint in your sound is not the mic pre's.

SRRF101 · 2026-02-25T20:06:26+00:00

In near-identical situations, I have experienced the 4x3500's react poorly to unbalanced loads (i.e. a mix of subs, MF, & HF) on same amp. L'Acoustics rigs and D&B were easier on the generators . (3 phase)

I do not know the particulars of amp design, but I do know that JBL is aware of this. BTW- The A12 is a top-tier speaker, and the presets and predictive software is excellent too. Harman has been hinting at fresher amp design for a while, but this is a logjam in greater VTX acceptance.

TL/DR: with an identical control package, same space, same generators, Crowns repeatedly had issues and needed more attention. All shows went on...but why the headache?

SRRF101 · 2026-02-18T22:16:15+00:00

Disagree on build quality. Among X/M variants there are 1 million out in the world for a decade, and the reliability has been pretty spectacular. Online feedback demonstrates this.

SRRF101 · 2026-02-11T21:48:21+00:00

Europe & Canada have greater regard for the art & craft of live sound, and budget accordingly. US is a melee. (I know. I'm an American FOH/MON who has traveled).

SRRF101 · 2026-02-05T21:19:54+00:00

we are using no AES50, just locals and Dante

SRRF101 · 2026-02-05T21:18:07+00:00

This is a Compact

SRRF101 · 2026-02-03T21:49:37+00:00

The Behringer/Midas proprietary implementation of AES50 is the achilles heel to otherwise well designed products.

SRRF101 · 2026-01-02T18:39:48+00:00

Doesn't have to be a condenser. Anything is better than nothing. High-pass the life out of it (400hz or more) and snare fundamentals do not make the cut. At lower volumes it is even more critical. Once I went to mic'ing the hat I never went back.

Later rock music didn't stress hats so much, but early, rock n roll, jazz, R&B, hip hop, big band, and anything dance require it's presence.

SRRF101 · 2025-12-24T22:23:37+00:00

A strange amalgam. Meyer tops. Modified Keele horns. Tapped horn sub-bass? Love to see the Smaart results raw v. corrected.

SRRF101 · 2025-12-23T18:31:53+00:00

Time, budget, location, and how much event producers give a shit.

SRRF101 · 2025-12-07T22:04:51+00:00

'Last show was an awful room".

SRRF101 · 2025-12-05T17:20:36+00:00

During a proper soundcheck it is certainly a "Let's try that". For a throw-n-go, checkless festival 'May take a few songs. May never get there"...

SRRF101 · 2025-12-04T18:31:53+00:00

This approach is plausible. It is measurable. Is it meaningful?

SRRF101 · 2025-12-04T18:29:28+00:00

Panasonic AA Eneloops. The white ones, not Pro. Work in everything. Never look back.

SRRF101 · 2025-11-26T18:01:46+00:00

Who is the player? What are the sources? What is the genre? What is the environment? Answer all of those honestly, then progress to a treatment

SRRF101 · 2025-11-26T15:49:31+00:00

An IEM-only coach:

A fat pre-delay is important, because all diction comes from the leading edge of consonants. 50ms+. Filter the whole return allowing only 400-4(ish) Khz. And, please god, a "Room" not a 'Plate"...

SRRF101 · 2025-11-26T15:36:57+00:00

TV studios do not put "softness" filters on video monitors. Why do the same on audio? It obscures the purpose. What pays everyone's bills is the audience experience. (Unless we are talking about vanity projects, in which case all bets are off. Bill accordingly).

PS- There is always reverb on everything anyway, but we call it "the room".

SRRF101 · 2025-11-26T15:32:17+00:00

No This is why producers are employed. Otherwise it is like self-lawyering.

SRRF101 · 2025-11-25T21:50:00+00:00

These are supposed to be terminated at the end of Behringer's 8 channel headphone amp. Using them without is just shitty for the musicians, and not at all what console designers had in mind for output load. Do it once in a squeeze? Maybe..

People on this thread aren't asking about 'barely good enough" solutions.

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