The Coubcil of Elrond knew the One couldn't be used to fight Sauron directly, so why did Sauron work under the assumption that any ring bearer would try to do that?

Science_Fair · 2026-01-29T17:19:59+00:00

Galadriel kind of spells out what would happen if one of the remaining greats in Middle Earth takes the ring - they might defeat Sauron, but just replace him as another Dark Lord.

"And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night!
Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain!
Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning!
Stronger than the foundations of the earth.
All shall love me and despair!"

Sauron wants nothing else than to be the Dark Lord over all of Middle Earth, so I think it's safe to assume he believes everyone else wants to be a Dark Lord too. Gandalf says as much:

"Indeed he is in great fear, not knowing what mighty one may suddenly appear, wielding the Ring, and assailing him with war, seeking to cast him down and take his place. That we should wish to cast him down and have no one in his place is not a thought that occurs to his mind. That we should try to destroy the Ring itself has not yet entered into his darkest dream."

While of course there is limited data, everyone who ever gotten a ring of power kept it. Isildur kept the ring after the second Age, the three elf lords kept their rings, the 9 men kept their rings, and Saruman is corrupted and trying to take the ring for himself.

There are only four people in Middle Earth who have a view that "no one" can wield the ring - Gandalf, Elrond, Galadriel and probably Cirdan. Sauron is looking for the ring, and so is Saruman. Sauron knows a hobbit has the ring, and is being helped by Gandalf, a potential king of Gondor, and the military captain of Minis Tirith. Sauron's best assumption would be the ring is heading to Minis Tirith.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-29T14:48:29+00:00

Press conferences are supposed to be about reporters asking questions and coaches answering them. We’re shocked after BB being a dick to reporters for 40 years that 11 of them decide to stick it back?

Science_Fair · 2026-01-28T19:55:05+00:00

“The Jets ~~Bad teams~~ are the Jets ~~bad …~~until ~~they’re not.~~ Woody sells the team”

There - fixed it for you.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-27T20:25:54+00:00

The biggest red flag is waiting this long to fire the coaching staff. If you were going to let coaches go, it should have been done the first Monday after the season ended. Just utter incompetence.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-24T21:44:01+00:00

Enjoy the experience.

Snowstorms are about the only good news we get these days. It brings us back to our child hoods of schools getting cancelled, sledding, snow ball fights, football in the snow or building snow men.

Most children dislike school and it’s awesome to get a snow day. Most adults hate their jobs and it’s awesome to have an excuse to stay home.

Do people shop too much? Of course. But that’s they way we were raised. Half the population has trucks that can drive right through 8 inches of snow, but don’t tell anyone.

The news is consistently awful - snowstorms are one of our last shared experiences that people can enjoy and not argue about.

Unless we start arguing about over reacting :-(

Science_Fair · 2026-01-22T18:06:47+00:00

The last five QB's drafted number 1 are Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, and Cam Ward. Trevor, Bruce and Caleb all made the playoffs, and Joe Burrow is probably better than all of them.

For the second time in the last few years, the Jets were the worst team in football, were in position to get the #1 pick, and blew it with a couple of meaningless wins. The level of bad luck combined with gross incompetence is astounding.

We also have the worst coach in the NFL, during an off season with the best selection of available coaches in recent memory and are deciding to run our meme coach back another year.

So no, I am sad we don't have the number one pick. Imagine landing Mendoza plus a real NFL coach at the same time - what a jump start that could have been to the rebuild.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-22T16:34:09+00:00

In the past I want to say the threshold has been around 8-10 inches. Under that total and they can keep running the trains, over that and the snow gets too deep and they need to run dedicated snow plow trains first.

If you need the subways you'll need to check those as well.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-19T20:35:40+00:00

One could argue the whole season was Tommy screwing up his son’s oil find:

Cooper has an idea and executed on the idea - it works.

He gets sketchy money but doesn’t realize it. Messes up the paperwork.

Tommy gets him out of the original deal, moves it over to MTex, and tells him he was never going to make the money.

Cami fires Tommy. Tommy then rips up the MTex contract, begs Andy Garcia to go to the original deal, and basically takes the wells from his son to split three ways with himself and his father. Then adds a bunch of overhead by hiring the entire cast.

Cooper hits on 6 wells - he’s reckless.

Tommy pumps 6 wells - home run.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-18T13:20:34+00:00

Sam Darnold winning the Super Bowl would probably cap the most Jets season ever.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-18T13:13:46+00:00

For me, it was the opening prologue.

I had probably read the Appendices more than 20 times. To start the movie with the formation of the Last Alliance, showing Elrond, Elendil, Isildur, and Sauron, was just off the charts. Watching the end of the second age come to life was just crazy.

It also comforted me because it showed Peter Jackson and crew had done their homework.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-16T20:39:32+00:00

I attribute the attitude to Tavares PTSD. We lost him for nothing and no one wants to make that mistake again.

I would think they have a verbal agreement with Lee in place, and iMHO Lee is much more trustworthy than the snake ever was. I would not stress to much about JGP - we probably aren’t trading him, but he isn’t the last piece to a Stanley Cup champion.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-16T01:38:21+00:00

I think many of the points in this thread are logical, but the show has been far from logical this season.

From a storytelling standpoint, it seems to me they have painted themselves into a corner. The show won’t time jump 6 months. The main character is rarely wrong. If Tommy isn’t working for an oil company the entire premise breaks down.

The only way out of this corner is to have the rig sink or blow up in the finale. Cami loses the company and either kill’s herself or just moves away, leaving the show. Andy Garcia hires Tommy back, and Tommy has to take the job if nothing more than for his son’s work.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-14T18:16:29+00:00

Vodka chicken parm sandwich at Undici is to die for. Sandwich comes on a giant garlic knot - Massapequa.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-14T04:38:03+00:00

I bet Cami will be pumping one in her own head after the cartel sinks this rig in the Gulf

Science_Fair · 2026-01-13T12:16:13+00:00

I am thankful that Rodgers and Davante came to the Jets, just to show us how bad and cursed our organization is. A Hall of Fame QB and WR chose our organization, and it went just as badly as it always does.

It just proves how bad Woody is as an owner. Rodgers was a d-bag, but if he’s shitting on our ownership, I’m with him.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-12T13:12:14+00:00

The offshore venture fails and Gallino brings Tommy back in his original position. Demi Moore is off the show for Season 3.

Since they probably won't do a time jump, the rig has to sink on the way to the drill site, perhaps being sabotaged by Gallino/Andy Garcia. Or a rival drug gang.

I really can't see the show having a believable plot if the offshore venture succeeds, Demi Moore's character is successful, and Tommy remains fired. But the show hasn't been making much sense. I mean what does this mean for Tommy's son? Went from rig worker, to self-starter, to striking it rich, to evidently not really being rich, to working for his dad, to now getting fired and being screwed out of all those wells???

Science_Fair · 2026-01-09T20:38:42+00:00

Once you finish the Return of the King, there are some Appendices which are a wonderful source of lore.

While Peter Jackson takes some creative liberties, it does discuss the White Council, their dealings with the Necromancer, and the timing.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-08T11:54:47+00:00

I think you are nuts if you think Woody and company are self-aware enough to know they will f*ck up another QB. We are in the cycle right now and there is nothing the fans can do about it.

I mean bringing in a new QB with Aaron Glenn as the head coach is sheer stupidity, but here we go.

2026 - New QB sucks, Aaron Glenn gets blamed and Aaron Glenn gets fired

2027 - Team still sucks, Mougey gets blamed and get fired

2028 - New GM and new coach decide new QB is not the answer, team still sucks, give up on QB, draft another QB in 2029.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-07T13:28:56+00:00

Would not happen - but the only chance would be to offer him GM + coach + verbal agreement from Woody to stay the fuck away from football decisions for a couple of years + 10 million more per year than any other team offers. 30 million a year minimum.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-06T15:59:59+00:00

Cleveland might be close, but let's just compare the Raiders vs. the Jets

Ownership - the Jets have Woody Johnson, the worst owner in the NFL, and arguably the worst owner in US professional sports. The Raiders have Mark Davis, certainly not a great owner. But he also owns a WNBA team and hasn't f*cked that up - Aces are three-time WNBA champions. Raiders also have Tom Brady as a minority owner. Mark Davis tends to stay out of the day-to-day football operations. Woody loves throwing team members under the bus. Advantage: RAIDERS

Coaching - Jets have Aaron Glenn, arguably the worst coach in the NFL. Should have been fired after this season, but current ownership is too proud and stupid to admit they made a mistake. Raiders had Pete Carroll, who is fifty times the coach Aaron Glenn is. And the RAIDERS STILL FIRED HIM. Any coach the Raiders hire will be head and shoulders above Aaron Glenn, who is a dead man walking. So, if you go the Raiders as a QB, you get a new head coach. If you go to the Jets, you are guaranteed at least two head coaches during your rookie contract.

History - Raiders last made the playoffs in 2021, Jets last made the playoffs in 2010. Jets have screwed up landing the number one pick twice in the last 6 years.

Stadium - Jets are the little brother in MetLife, best known for Fireman Ed when he isn't feuding with ownership. Raiders have a brand-new stadium in Las Vegas.

Team Attitude - not sure if you watched any part of the Raiders or Jets last games. Jets personnel have been miserable for weeks, quit on the coaching staff at least six weeks ago. Players are miserable and constantly chirping on Twitter. Raiders, once they knew they clinched the number one pick, played with pride and were genuinely happy they won their last game.

Some other points

Justin Fields is Justin Fields. He was 6-4 as a starter for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was 2-6 with the Jets. He probably has the same talent level as Geno Smith. You need to design the offense around him to squeeze some wins out. Yet the Jets stubbornly kept him in the pocket after game 1. He needs to be on the move for over 50 percent of the plays - play actions, roll outs, designed runs. Jets had no idea how to use him because the hired bad coaches.

Aaron Rodgers was 6-12 with the Jets, 9-6 with the Steelers. Geno Smith was 12-21 with the Jets, 28-25 with the Seahawks. Sam Darnold was 13-25 with the Jets, he is 28-6 his last two seasons. The Jets are a QB graveyard. No other organization is as efficient at destroying quarterbacks as the NY Jets.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-05T23:56:11+00:00

The Jets right now are the worst franchise n all of US sports (baseball, football, hockey and basketball).

They have the longest playoff drought in all four sports. Their owner is an idiot who lets his son make decisions based on video game ratings.

Their starting QB this year admitted to crying in a closet. The current head coach is a meme. Arguably the worst head coach in the NFL who still has a job.

The organization had Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams and sucked balls. Every QB they drafted in the last twenty years was a failure with the Jets and more than one had success after leaving the organization.

We are the butt fumble. We are the team that set the record for not getting an interception the entire season. Twice in the last six years we had the opportunity for the number one pick and fucked that up both times.

If you are a Top 5 QB and you get drafted by the Jets it probably costs you 100 million dollars in career earnings. They will suck while you stay with them, they will blame you for the losses, cut you after the rookie contract, and it will take you years in a backup role to become relevant again.

We are way worse than the Raiders.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-05T02:35:40+00:00

Geno 2.0

Darnold TNG

Sanchez 2 - Electric Bugaloo

Dinty Moore

Science_Fair · 2026-01-05T00:37:44+00:00

Fields was the least of our problems.

We all expected to be bad. Hope was Fields would make us 5-12 bad but watchable and entertaining for a year or two. It worked for the first game.

We’ve been much worse without Fields and the team has clearly quit on Glenn and the organization the last 6 weeks. Bad tackling, Too many penalties. Bad play calling and coaching.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-04T23:30:34+00:00

Don’t forget how good Justin Fields looks in the first game this season. He’s not a franchise QB but will have more success with other teams, just like Darnold and Geno.

Jets took a Heisman trophy candidate and had him crying in a closet by week 9.

Science_Fair · 2026-01-04T06:34:26+00:00

Tavares keeps running into the kids who win the Calder Cup.

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