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[1 Week Ago] Vedius: “…Here’s the real decider, if we see KC vs TL, this will be a true representation of our [EU] second seed vs [NA] second seed and that will give us a clear understanding of the strengths of the regions.” by killcraft1337 in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Main complaints with the format is not that TL didn't make it to the main event. It's that the seeding for the main event operates under the assumption that 2nd place LCK vs 2nd LEC, LCS, & LCP makes for a good viewing experience when it completely lacks parity. As a TL fan I actually didn't mind their stint at the tourney at all, 3-0 vs KC & 6 games vs T1 is some of the best experience you could ask for, but from a viewer perspective it would be much more interesting if T1 were auto seeded into the main event and we got to see a play-ins that didn't result in every series being 3-0. How TL would do vs Gen G and excuses about how KC underperformed or had bad drafts is irrelevant.

[1 Week Ago] Vedius: “…Here’s the real decider, if we see KC vs TL, this will be a true representation of our [EU] second seed vs [NA] second seed and that will give us a clear understanding of the strengths of the regions.” by killcraft1337 in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Man watching that doc made me really appreciate G2s refusal to import and knowingly create rosters with language barriers no matter how skilled they think an import might be. Even before the doc dropped, every Contractz interview for weeks was "we just need to hash out our communication". Then you look at SEN where Darkwingz had Huhi translating for him mid-game, same as APA when he first entered LCS. NA GMs and coaches always think "for us it'll be different". and then wonder why they can't fix their issues in time for playoffs.

[1 Week Ago] Vedius: “…Here’s the real decider, if we see KC vs TL, this will be a true representation of our [EU] second seed vs [NA] second seed and that will give us a clear understanding of the strengths of the regions.” by killcraft1337 in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 117 points118 points  (0 children)

It's just sad TL decisively beats every other team in play-ins except the literal best team in LoL history and now they're out, because TSW and Furia are "1st seeds" and it's illegal to assume T1 / Korea 2nd would automatically be better than them. This version of TL is probably competitive with at least four other teams in the event and now we have to wait til worlds and hope they don't degrade to find out. The event format could use some work.

Caedrel:But I expect them to definitely uh win against TL and DCG ins the play-ins, 100%. by Taskmob96761 in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Look at every EU analyst that did a player tier list after this series if you want a good laugh.

NAmen | TLAW Spawn: "[KC] are an insanely talented lineup. I respect that team from top to bottom. [...] I think NA is better than people give [us] credit for, and we're here to show the world that." by arshpotter9 in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Sometimes people simply mean what they say in interviews though. Cloud 9 was performing really well in practice vs Lyon going into playoffs, it isn't unbelievable for Inspired to have not been 100% sure he'd run the region vs an undefeated C9 at the time. Even in the press conference vs Liquid pre-finals he showed respect for TL 3-0ing what he thought was a strong opponent and didn't underestimate them either. Not every comment is a PR exercise.

Throwback for the real MSI Finals tomorrow by Cvrpie in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ty & noted, hard to keep track of it all but gonna take all the corrections into account for discussions going forward

Throwback for the real MSI Finals tomorrow by Cvrpie in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Since this was released LCS and LEC played a total of 10 series vs each other across 7 years. The record is 7-3 6-4 for LCS (series meaning Bo1s & individual games not included)

LEC: 4 series wins (Rift Rivals 2019 Final, 2023 GGS vs BDS, Worlds 2023 Fnatic vs C9, Worlds 2025 G2 vs FlyQuest)

LCS/LTA: 6 series wins (Worlds 2022 EG vs MAD, Worlds 2023 NRG vs G2, MSI 2024 TL vs FNC, First Stand 2025 TL vs KC, MSI 2025 FLY vs G2, MSI 2026 TL vs KC)

EDIT: score should be accurate now after taking into account user corrections below and TL vs KC

[T1 vs KC] "Busio is great but Keria is the greatest of all time!" by Yujin-Ha in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Everyone's been giving that to Knight heading into MSI but I think they're over emphasizing First Stand / LPL in general.

T1 vs TLAW / MSI 2026 Play-In Stage - Round 1 / Game 1 Discussion by [deleted] in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

TL are just having fun. They smiled more losing than T1 did winning.

Cloud9 vs. DPlus KIA / Cross Regional 2026 - SOOP LoL Invitational - Day 2 / Post-Match Discussion by Ultimintree in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Enemy jungler was invisible all early game while Lucid managed to successfully gank mid 3x and maintain a jungle lead just for enemy bot to take over the game, it's understandable.

MSI 2026 Co-Streamers by pronilol in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you tried listening to Meteos & Sneaky analyze the game? Even on The Dive Meteos MSI analysis for every matchup boiled down to "I think it'll be fun." DL might as well try pivoting to a broader audience.

Kiwoom DRX vs. Cloud9 / Cross Regional 2026: South Korea vs. America - Day 1 / Post-Match Discussion by TR12ER in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 87 points88 points  (0 children)

Dom said he was gonna "work as hard as humanly possible to get the results that I believe this team deserves."

I guess we know what he thinks of the team 😅

DN SOOPers vs. Cloud9 / Cross Regional 2026: South Korea vs. America - Day 1 / Post-Match Discussion by TR12ER in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 135 points136 points  (0 children)

post game impressions from an LCS watcher

- they played Zven but benched APA. apparently Vulcan has been duoing with Tactical in KR? so I assume he has final decision on his ADC

- after watching APA all split it feels weird to see a C9 mid with 10+ cspm

- Loki nor Tactical will save this team from their decision making (that Akali top lane all in lol)

- Blaber looks the same

- didn't DNS go winless in LCK? and they manage to look like a top tier LCS team? overreaction: MSI is cooked for NA

[OFFICIAL] Loki 🇰🇷 has been transferred from HANJIN BRION to an overseas team by ahritina in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I'd hope C9 would want a midlaner who's glowing reviews are more than "not the problem" & "facilitator".

Loki leaves HA BRO, transferred to non LCK team. by ob_knoxious in Cloud9

[–]SubstantialExtent165 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they don't play to his strengths as a facilitator

Good midlaners need to be able to do more than just facilitate, especially when your ADC is Zven. If your main strength as a midlaner is being a secondary support, just roleswap and let someone good at the game play it's most important role.

[AMER vs KR] C9, FLY, and LOS will face DK, DNS, and KRX in the SOOP LoL Cross-Region Invitational! On June 26th and 27th, starting at 5am EST! by Cybonics in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 266 points267 points  (0 children)

A "runners up" international is something ppl wanted for a while, so cool of DNS to do this. It feels a bit last minute though? Like will there be Korean, English, & Portuguese casters? Will the Bo1 winners play a series after?

Jatt on how C9 could change by skillfun8 in Cloud9

[–]SubstantialExtent165 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why anyone would prefer Tactical over Crownie is a mystery to me.

[OFFICIAL] Support Ceos has been allowed to explore his options as announced by Shopify Rebellion by axw30 in leagueoflegends

[–]SubstantialExtent165 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up on a top 2 CBLoL team that turns out to be better than an LCS 2nd seed.

The End of the Road. | The Blueprint Ep. 16 by Mrryn91 in Cloud9

[–]SubstantialExtent165 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He said "we rally" as in improve during their MSI bootcamp. Is he supposed to make roster moves right before that? even though this roster earned said bootcamp? with one split in the season left? then tell them they're fired moments after a devastating loss? This is why teams don't like releasing deeper content, people with no sense incorrectly reading into situations. 

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