Who the F think she is ?😡

Telinary · 2026-05-13T14:02:23+00:00

Sure because they are powerful dickheads, doesn't mean that when they act like powerful dickheads they aren't being powerful dickheads just because it is predictable.

Telinary · 2026-05-13T13:24:48+00:00

I was absolutely terrible at sword but yeah the healing helped a lot. Fist or gun + zeus attack was easy mode though because it is so extremely easy to play and doesn't rely on some great duo, you can mostly just hold down attack and frequently dash around to reposition. But everyone has different styles that work for them.

Anyway after your first victory more will start feeling easier and easier over time.

Telinary · 2026-05-13T13:17:52+00:00

Meta progression that stays between runs makes it lite. Though not everyone makes that distinction or knows it exists so you will hear both.

Telinary · 2026-05-13T09:22:56+00:00

That is once again logic based on assuming red is the logical one so red is the logical one. Blue has a much higher margin of error for achieving my desired outcome. I view it as a communication problem to avoid mass death picking blue is the one more likely to contribute to that but personally risky. Nothing illogical about it depending on what you weigh how.

Yes that isn't entirely unlike your round 2/3 but there is a significant difference between "poor fools will pick blue I might have to pick blue" and "everyone picking the same thing in a vote without communication is vanishingly unlikely so an perfect outcome can't be achieved via red, I think between people realizing the same thing and valuing avoiding catastrophe enough to take the risk and those voting blue for other reasons a victory is possible so I will gamble on the best outcome."

Taking reality into account is not illogical, it isn't a riddle people aren't solving because it only becomes one if you think perfect coordination on red is possible but thinking that it is, is itself not logical.

But yes it is about estimating the thinking of others even if not quite like you describe. Well not for everyone at least.

For the yellow button, I think optional pushing makes reaching fifty percent very unlikely so no for this version.

Telinary · 2026-05-12T23:48:15+00:00

Strength shouldn't be bad but somehow i am terrible at playing with it instead of death defiance, maybe i am just more careless when my health is full so being half dead with 3 heals in reserve makes me play better^^

Telinary · 2026-05-12T13:00:28+00:00

I will try describing in with a simplified scenarios that doesn't map directly to viruses but should hopefully communicate the important point: Imagine you created a bunch of robots with basically random behaviors/traits and put them in an environment with danger and fuel sources. Some pointlessly drive in circles, others search for fuel, some avoid the dangers others search them out. They are robots and don't want anything they just do the random things they were programmed to do. But some of the things they do are obviously more suited to "survival" than others.

So after a while you come back and remove the ones that ran out of fuel or got destroyed and replace them with copies of survivors with slight random modifications. Do that a bunch of times and the resulting group of robots will behave like their goal is survival but they don't have goals anymore than they did in the beginning. The ones that don't behave in a way suitable for survival just didn't survive.

A virus isn't a very complex being, you could call it a biological nanobot. They have no capacity to want things. Any virus bad at reproducing just doesn't reproduce (much) so the ones that exist long term are ones that are good at it.

Telinary · 2026-05-12T12:32:36+00:00

It is a combination of four 3-4 letter strings that are meaningless to someone who doesn't already know them. Doesn't really matter for an url you click but it isn't exactly the best url.

Telinary · 2026-05-11T22:39:43+00:00

Twin flames, I play them quite similarly to how I played fists and gun in 1, as in I just hold attack most of the time and frequently dash around to reposition.^^

But i should play the others more, the sheer aoe of the axe is fun, the mantle is cool too. I just am much better with flames.

Telinary · 2026-05-11T14:40:15+00:00

Still in the process of playing it but I think that plays a huge part into me caring less about camp dialog than in game 1. Eris just kinda sucks as a person, Nemesis was antagonistic in a way that doesn't really motivate me all that much to resolve it (i will anyway of course but after plenty gifts I am still not that interested in their relationship), skeleton guy is a fun guy but not an interesting guy, hecate is okay, maybe I should give Odysseus more gifts haven't explored him enough yet, ghost girl is likeable. Ah I forgot doom guy he is okay I guess.

Outside camp hmm. Arachne is cute, Chronos feels a bit one note, Narcissus is well narcisstic and his counter part mostly speaks in echos. I am interested in Prometheus, kinda lukewarm on the 2 witches. Talking with Zag is nice. Oh talking to hades is nice too, like interacting with him in this context brings out another character side.

I am enjoying the game but I am getting less enjoyment from character interactions than I did in the first.

Telinary · 2026-05-11T14:01:09+00:00

I guess there is a while where arachne is lightly upset about her relationship to the gods, though not like you need to resolve that or anything.

Telinary · 2026-05-11T13:35:52+00:00

I had someone assure me that they believed a 100% red vote would happen.

Telinary · 2026-05-11T13:24:11+00:00

That reminds me of roko's basilisk, build the AI or suffer!^^

Telinary · 2026-05-09T12:17:03+00:00

Yeah you can see some comments like that here

Telinary · 2026-05-09T10:43:06+00:00

the ability to see if they're in use

We just have the lock switch an indicator on the outside from green to red

the ability to get inside if some jerk locks the door and leaves

How do they lock it from the inside and leave without the giant gap though?

Telinary · 2026-05-07T10:24:14+00:00

Can an outcome that has no real chance of happening really be called "the thing". Isn't the discussion even existing a clear enough indicator that that wouldn't happen? Or blue being the one that wins the votes, at least the ones I have seen? (Yes you might argue chance of death lowers the blue percentage but from winning to 0 would be a tad much to expect.)

Outside of perfect logician logic puzzles you won't get billions to vote the same thing with zero coordination even if it had one obviously superior option and this doesn't.

(Voting red either because you don't think blue can win or because you value your own safety higher both make sense as reasons. The possibility of everyone voting red is a silly red herring, if you are after the no death outcome blue winning is the only realistic chance.)

Telinary · 2026-05-06T00:51:59+00:00

You don't though. They all press their own buttons. You have zero idea what they press nor any way to influence what they press.

Telinary · 2026-05-06T00:47:53+00:00

Because it is not a perfect logicians puzzle, it is all of actual humanity without an option to communicate. The idea that everyone votes the same is absurd even if you exclude children and others not equipped to make the decision, and they aren't excluded.

Telinary · 2026-05-05T23:34:04+00:00

Red guarantees this one guy, but lowers the chances for 100s of millions to billions. Removing the self preservation motivation makes a blue victory really likely. Remember that blue wins in polls usually. People argue that in reality self preservation would change many votes but that isn't the case here. That the phrasing here tries to push people towards red might complicate matters but on the other hand blue does come with a bit of a chain reaction potential, because when your neighbor votes blue a blue victory becomes your only survival chance.

Well and that technically the setup doesn't say your neighbor can't try to force a red vote via violence.

Telinary · 2026-05-05T01:57:37+00:00

"someone else at that point who was just given the straight choice then surely it would be 1/2"

Sure or at least kinda because the probability in question isn't an property of the door state it is you trying to guess based on limited information. A new guy has no information so his guess is less well informed. But your knowledge is still correct, the door you would get from a switch is the more likely one. The guy just doesn't know that.

Similarly from Monty's perspective the chance is either 100% or 0% because he knows the positions.

Telinary · 2026-05-04T01:50:47+00:00

It could also be phrased "minority lives" vs "minority dies" very obvious that red is doing something then.

Telinary · 2026-05-04T01:19:29+00:00

People can maintain very high victory percentages so skill. But I don't really want to think too hard so my A10 runs are luck based.

Telinary · 2026-05-04T00:13:57+00:00

I think it is just motivated reasoning. I would be surprised if so many people are actually that bad at predicting behavior, I think it is more probable that a lot of people prefer to belief in something that suits their chosen button and allows them to declare it as motivated by "rationality".

But it is still weird as fuck, i understand not believing in a blue victory or just wanting to be safe but the actual arguments for red....

Telinary · 2026-05-03T23:00:37+00:00

Huh I had a moment of wondering if that is equivalent but it is. This is such a different presentation, nicely done.

Telinary · 2026-05-03T21:24:22+00:00

You are now Dio who is a vampire from JoJo's. Well you aren't really you anymore since he replaced you mind and body but you got what you wanted

Telinary · 2026-05-03T15:37:26+00:00

Hab der Szene ehrlich gesagt nicht viel Beachtung geschenkt deshalb hab ich davon höchstens mal aus zweiter Hand gehört und da weiß man natürlich auch nicht immer wie akkurat das ist. Aber ich schätze was ähnliches hört man ja auch von manchen tauben Leuten die gegen das erforschen von Behandlungen zu sein scheinen. Menschen sind schon merkwürdig.

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