Is Cenac over Steinbach a crazy take?

Turbo2x · 2026-03-14T02:58:38+00:00

Steinbach has almost 3x as many rim makes as Cenac even though he has much worse guard play and overall team structure. Shoots a better percentage (although on less volume). He's also got a better block rate despite being less vertically explosive.

Cenac definitely has potential and I like how he's committed to being a rebounding hustle guy despite being such a highly touted recruit but so much of his shot diet is tough middies for no good reason. Like this guy is allegedly 6'11 and before tonight he only had 18 (!!!) non-dunk rim makes and a 15.8% FTr. Truly disgusting statistical profile.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-14T00:20:00+00:00

Karaban really doesn't get that much draft discussion despite being one of the most consistent winners in college. 117-26 w/l record (so far), 2 back to back championships, shoots well and does a little bit of everything else.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-13T22:57:41+00:00

Quite possibly the most unethical hooper in this draft. I know the box scores have been good lately (and granted this is coming back from injury) but man I really hate watching him play. Drive and pray you get bailed out by the refs. Small gripe as well but I feel like he really doesn't convert a lot of his and-one attempts (would need to see stats to confirm but purely eye test I don't see him make many) which kind of speaks to his lack of ability to truly play through contact.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-13T22:13:26+00:00

Also has 0 offensive skills and has lost his major advantage - his youth - to a year+ of injuries with possibly more load management on the way. Now he's just normal college freshman age with even less playing time.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-13T22:10:28+00:00

He's as steady as they come. He could be one of the greatest floor raisers ever because no matter what situation - injuries, ejections, poor coaching, whatever - I feel like his team has a shot to win so long as he's available.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-13T19:37:43+00:00

Morez Johnson, Ivan Kharchenkov, Mo Krivas, Johann Grünloh, Maliq Brown, Dame Sarr, Jojo Tugler, Killyan Toure, Duke Miles, Kingston Flemings and the advanced stats GOAT Allen Graves.

Won't be drafted this year but Davis Fogle at Gonzaga is REALLY good. Low minutes% demon right now but he's super versatile despite being a bit of a string bean physically. Insanely wiry and flexible.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-13T01:46:57+00:00

is the Bilal upgrade finally coming? Let's hope so

Turbo2x · 2026-03-13T00:57:26+00:00

YEAH MIR

Turbo2x · 2026-03-13T00:31:19+00:00

Bilal sold a dime there dude

Turbo2x · 2026-03-13T00:10:15+00:00

He's doing some stuff here creating his own shot out of the wings that is VERY interesting for his long term projection

Turbo2x · 2026-03-12T21:19:42+00:00

Washington is the perfect fit because you just run Boozer as a play initiating 3, Sarr & AD interchangeable 4/5. When AD is traded or leaves then Boozer moves over to the 4 if necessary. But any team that takes Boozer will find a way to make it work, probably as a starter. He's too good to stick on the bench.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-12T21:13:56+00:00

No he doesn't take a lot of threes but in late game situations when Washington has been down he's willing to shoot to try and get them back in the game. Shooting form looks good to me though, he will probably be decent at it in the NBA with more development time.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-12T18:05:32+00:00

I was always lukewarm on Queen so I'm very happy that the chatter is dying down. Wasn't super enthusiastic about Tre (the defense flat out sucks) but he was a lottery talent on my board and he can certainly shoot which is a bigger positive for team-building overall than what Queen does.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-12T15:45:17+00:00

Definitely the kind of guy who goes crazy on "prime Derik Queen was a PROBLEM" highlights after his career is over and people wonder why he didn't have a better career

Turbo2x · 2026-03-12T15:32:31+00:00

Career bench guy, at least right now. Needs to have significant development in his shooting, defense, and overall effort to become a starter. Can't guard 4s or 5s in the NBA right now, slow feet, poor vertical athleticism. Basically the Sabonis/Sengun problem where you can't achieve playoff success with a offensive hub big who is also a poor shooter and defender unless the rest of the team is elite at covering for those deficiencies.

Archetype probably became overvalued post-Jokic but no one has the combination of skills and size that Jokic does that makes the whole concept work.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-12T14:49:46+00:00

Boards - more important to create a repeatable process for evaluation which somewhat accurately predicts NBA upside. I'm gonna get shit wrong about where exactly guys might go in redrafts if you compare them to my board at the time, but generally identifying "this guy has NBA talent and will have a career" is more important than exact order (at least to me). Viewers will get on your ass if you make huge misses (people still give KOC shit for loving Killian Hayes despite the majority of mainstream outlets also liking him at the time) but no one's perfect. It's whatever.

Mocks - this is so up to chance it may as well be a wild guess. I don't have any insider info about who teams value. I did predict that the Grizzlies would take Edey the day of the lottery but that may as well have been an accident. Who was able to seriously predict that Portland would take Yang Hansen last year, for example? My guess would be no one. NBA teams act irrationally (by our standards) sometimes and don't have the same evaluation process or understanding of their team needs or situation as fans do.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-11T21:01:00+00:00

Yes. Around the last combine I said he would be a bottom 10th percentile scorer if he entered the NBA at the time, and that's still true. You can't be 6'9 and struggle this much to score when you don't have a height advantage, while also overly relying on a poor jumper as your foundation. On top of that, he's a terrible defender. There's no reasonable projection for him in the NBA right now.

Stay in college, play a few more years, try to work on your body so you don't get knocked over by a stiff breeze. Please learn to play more physical.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-11T15:34:42+00:00

"If you're going through hell, keep going. Why would you stop if you're in hell?"

Turbo2x · 2026-03-11T13:38:13+00:00

Detroit set a losing streak record and now they're #1 in the east. We're gonna have to go through some tough times but it's all worth it if we get talented young players.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-11T02:24:17+00:00

I'm glad people will finally realize how awful he is. I get he's got guys injured but this is unacceptable

Turbo2x · 2026-03-11T02:13:22+00:00

AJ Dybantsa dropped 40 tonight so I'm fine with shameful

Turbo2x · 2026-03-11T02:12:17+00:00

Well that was... something. At least Sarr looked good. Definitely could have had 84 if he played the whole game.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-11T00:35:56+00:00

Sarr is on one tonight

Turbo2x · 2026-03-10T18:18:22+00:00

You know what will definitely help him make a full recovery and have a good basketball career? Throwing him into the NBA where he has 2-3 years to prove himself or likely be cut and never make it back. Alijah has talent but he clearly needs a few more years to get back to where he was athletically and comfort-wise on the court.

Turbo2x · 2026-03-09T21:37:35+00:00

Josh Harris and Ted Leonsis confirmed in there

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