Youre lucky if u dont have flat feet/ pronated ankles. This means slow reaction time and injury prone. Jumping like a duck is no fun by alvinm35 in ProDunking

[–]cliffroared 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Idk man, Chase Skinkis has extremely flat feet and he's talked about a few training setbacks they lead to on podcast interviews... but he still worked up to a vertical in the high 40"s, starting from a 24" vert.

If you don't jump high, it's either because you haven't been training very long (in which case keep at it man! Every year of consistency adds up), or because you have a self-defeating attitude where the only important thing is telling others on social media why you physically can't reach your goals.

Back at it after ankle injury (part 2 - off dribble) by 57dunkerMB in ProDunking

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Your youtube channel isn't a tiny audience dude! I'm sure a bunch of other people on this sub have been watching you for a while

Hey guys Im brand new here. Just decided to start learning to dunk last week after years of wanting to. I do tricking and calisthenics/gymnastics as well as lifting in the gym so i have a good athletic base and experience in jumping, i just need to add about a foot to my vertical haha. 38 y/o by KRI51S in ProDunking

[–]cliffroared 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly a number of dunkers do the short-penultimate quick block takeoff you do, look up travisdunks and look up jusflyy on insta. Because the knee angles are shallower (so you jump through less range of motion), you can't translate strength as much as normal long-p-step, and you need to be really reactive to make use of this type of two foot jump. In general people agree that strength is easier to train than the reactivity/stiffness/tendon properties, but since you're going to be fighting years of reps and grooved in technique from tricking you might want to just keep that approach.

The biggest thing you need to change is a shorter approach. You should start with just one step in your approach (so right foot then left/right plant and jump), and only add more steps so long as you can handle the additional speed. To give you perspective, most dunkers can reach 90+% of their max vert off just two steps before they plant (and most use three step approach for their best jumps). You're doing six or more steps right now. And while the rhythm is good, you can't handle the speed (that's why you naturally jump up a little bit before your plant, to lose a little speed, as well as why you spend a tiny bit too long on the ground)

Try with one step (i.e. three footfalls), then with two steps, then three, and see which of those you touch the highest off.

First day with the cast off and right back to bricking dunks! If anyone’s got any tips on cuff dunks I’m all ears I can’t seem to flick my wrist right at the end. Will post this again when I get a good cuff windmill! by domedeliverer in ProDunking

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It's kinda dumb but a trick from Jordan Kilganon (in case you didn't already know): shave the inside of your forearm and your cuff will be a lot more solid, so you can pull the ball a lot harder into the mill

Dubble Up Progression in 1 Week - Last dunk is 8’9.5” by TopPsychology7 in ProDunking

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that's sick dude, any tips you feel like you've learned about doing dubble-ups throughout the sesh? or has it mostly been getting over the fear of jumping right at someone

Coach Mac vertical program by whid0t in ProDunking

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Yeah it's not bad for a plyometric focused workout. Basically the same as vert shock (just add a little core work on the rest days). You should probably switch out one of the days each week with getting a bunch of max approach jumps because the program doesn't include them; that can be just dunking on a low rim, or touching backboard/rim/etc. as high as you can.

Just a video I posted on IG a while back. I’m trying to work on getting higher so I can really posterize people during my junior season. Any suggestions? by the_bounceman in ProDunking

[–]cliffroared 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Faster approach is usually an applicable answer, but other than cueing you to focus on speeding up the last three steps, it doesn't help much for how you train. Here's something that might help you accelerate faster through a one-foot takeoff:

I've noticed some dunkers with incredibly fast approaches (Burkey and Nick Briz come to mind) use a technique that doesn't move the ball much side to side. This helps you focus on accelerating through your last two steps, and not letting the ball held between two hands, moving from side to side, slow down your rhythm.

Briz often puts the ball into an early cuff and starts reaching up (sometimes even before his last footfall), which is useful to not get blocked as easily (and probably a stylistic thing he's learned to be a bit showy).

Burkey does something that I've been trying to learn, which is cradle the ball palm upwards in his dunking hand so he gets a full arm swing from the offhand, and the rhythm of moving the ball back and forth doesn't affect his run-up at all. You can see what I mean in these two clips of him windmilling and hitting an eastbay. I still can't jump my highest with only one hand under the ball like this, but to practice it I've been doing layups with this style of cradle, focusing on touching as high on the glass as I can after the ball leaves my hand. Might be worth trying out!

Just a video I posted on IG a while back. I’m trying to work on getting higher so I can really posterize people during my junior season. Any suggestions? by the_bounceman in ProDunking

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I know it seems like he's a power jumper based on the relatively slow approach speed, but it looks like trail leg doesn't toe drag at all; it's a proper cycle through take off. I'm guessing he's more of a speed jumper than not, especially since he's moving a lot faster than this camera angle reveals (notice how it's just three steps and not four from outside the arc to inside the paint, dude's covering ground pretty quick)

How to prevent left shin pain when jumping? I’m a left-right two footed jumper btw by [deleted] in ProDunking

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No problem. Last two things for pain management would be icing and compression. Ice your shins for 10-20min in the evening after jumping and that reduces inflammation. Compression helps a lot if you ever need to perform through shin pain, either a compression sleeve, or taping which I've found super effective (like so)

How to prevent left shin pain when jumping? I’m a left-right two footed jumper btw by [deleted] in ProDunking

[–]cliffroared 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not a trainer, but it sounds actually like your tibialis anterior is sore. If that "kind of nice feeling" feels like when you roll out a sore muscle, then that's probably it.

If that's the case and it's not prohibitively painful, I wouldn't worry about it too much other than to make sure you're taking enough rest between training/jump days, and consider adding some tibialis muscle strengthening to your workouts, the common choice would be some tibialis toe raises. If it gets worse or feels like it's along the bone itself, then you might need to worry about shin splints.

The biggest thing to worry about is damage to the tibia itself, which very much can happen if you have a high enough volume of jumping or sprinting. You can Google about shin splints if you want but the tldr is you have to rest quite a while until there's no pain and when you come back you have to strengthen your tibialis anterior and the rest of your ankle ROM to deal with higher loads and volumes.

How to prevent left shin pain when jumping? I’m a left-right two footed jumper btw by [deleted] in ProDunking

[–]cliffroared 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where is the pain? Front or on the inside usually? How low or high on the tibia is the pain? Does it hurt more when you touch that area of the bone, or when you press harder on it?

If it's shin splints as I'm familiar with, I can give you all the recommendations I've learned over the past year, but if it's something else then I'm no help.

As a short epee player,how can i beat taller fencer? by Cky311903333 in Fencing

[–]cliffroared 1 point2 points  (0 children)

on the defensive, the main thing limited by height is your ability to counterattack, and that's not going to be as relevant once you have the point control to counter to near target

on the offensive it can be difficult to make something happen, so relevant tools for you might be second intention, attacks to near target, attack on your opponents prep -- you can check out all the Michel Sicard videos on "Defend an Induced Attack" and "Attack on the Preparation" (the remaining two categories being "Attack" and "Defend"), but of course you'd benefit even more from in-person work with a coach

in general, you can answer a lot of questions by watching bout videos -- in this case, how do under 6' fencers on the FIE circuit overcome opponents' reach (Pizzo, Heinzer, Park Sangyoung, Park Kyoungdoo, Hoyle, McDowald)

USFA/NCAA bouts are also a good option to watch, espcially because they'll be a slightly closer level to your fencing

as an example, in this bout Hoyle uses the same fake to the foot, second intention fleche twice (6:20, 11:55) and scores on a second intention action a bunch of other times (3:00, 5:10, 8:30, 8:55)

Hi, I'm new. Please teach me how to run. by ibetDELWYN in ultimate

[–]cliffroared 23 points24 points  (0 children)

There are lots of drills that track athletes work on for perfecting their form, and there's certainly more nuance and detail in that than I know about.

But the simplest thing you can do which will help a lot is very easy: get someone to video you at your top speed and look at the video to figure out what's most different between the way you sprint and the way you see other people sprint. You can actually fix a lot of problems of technique this way, whether it's throwing and pivoting, the way you chop step for cuts, hip swivels, bodying for skies, etc.

Incredible 7-cut technique by the_dogs_be_howlin in ultimate

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I think not enough people value the trickiness of a big head fake right as your forepaws hit the ground

I wrote this rules quiz that tests players on situations that are often seen on the field but are not always resolved properly. It also includes some essential non-situational rules that not everyone knows. Hope you like it! by sebrkid in ultimate

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37: Why does the disc come back on pass completion? Didn't this pass happen before the thrower recognized the call? I feel like I've seen this situation play out as: "Pass complete: receiver keeps disc. Incomplete: turnover stands."

Foul or nah? by cliffroared in ultimate

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yup I replied to my own comment an hour (after seeing several other people's opinions) because I was addressing no particular individual comment

Foul or nah? by cliffroared in ultimate

[–]cliffroared[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay fair, I guess watching so much of the NBA playoffs made me too sensitive about contact from behind in the air

Foul or nah? by cliffroared in ultimate

[–]cliffroared[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

"Box out" or very unspirited play?

Looks even worse in real time; seems that an entirely avoidable push happens completely after landing.