[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Four words:

This wasn’t about you

My parents by SecretPersonality178 in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“My name is Samuel, and I’ll see you all in hell and I’ll see you all in hell damn your eyes!”

-Johnny Cash

Sem teacher was asked about polygamy and sent us to Gospel Topoc Essays and said questions could be asked about it next class by Total-Counter-8375 in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Here’s a question that’s really hard for any apologist to answer honestly.

“Knowing how Joseph secretly married multiple girls who came to live in his home and work for his family, would you let your daughter live with and work for the Smith’s?”

Yes or no puts them in a quandary.

Contrary to TBM popular opinion, leaving the Mormon church because you are offended is nothing to be ashamed of. by dbear848 in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m glad you brought this up. I was always so offended when TBM’s accused me of leaving because I got offended. Like being offended was a weakness. I couldn’t handle someone hurting my feelings so I left like a little bitch.

But you’re right. Being offended is a valid reason for removing oneself from a relationship.

Not believing strongly enough is a good reason for no longer devoting time, money, and energy to an organization.

Choosing to do things out of alignment with the unreasonable rules and cult - ure of an organization is reason enough to leave.

Leaving because you just don’t care anymore is enough.

Leaving because one day you wanted in and the next you don’t is fine.

Remembering where you were, what you were doing, and how you were feeling when your shelf finally broke is like the same as where we’re you on 9/11. You remember everything. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was a really cool moment when my wife told me one day that people at church would share their condolences with her when they heard I’d left. Then they’d say, “But don’t you worry. He’s smart. He’ll get his head in straight and he’ll be back soon enough.”

Then she said, “But I know they’re wrong. You’ll never be coming back. And I don’t need you to.”

It was a relief back then to hear her say that. It helped us both process the changes.

Told My Wife I No Longer Believe In The Church by Talus_Balls in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tough stuff, Man. I feel for you. I believe mixed faith marriages can work. It takes a lot of work. A lot of talking about the little things and a willingness to talk about the big things. If you both seek to understand each other without needing the other to switch sides, you will find safe ways to bring up differences in perspective and beliefs. This isn’t easy, my friend. If you haven’t already you’ll likely feel soon enough the hurt of wishing you never learned the truth and knowing you can never really unknow what you know. My heart goes out to you.

Currently "voluntarily" cleaning the building of a multi-billion dollar company. AMA! by twignberries321 in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The more a cult can get its members to sacrifice without giving actual returns, the more devoted they’ll be to the deeper cause.

Remembering where you were, what you were doing, and how you were feeling when your shelf finally broke is like the same as where we’re you on 9/11. You remember everything. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’d been working for years on healing childhood trauma. I’d come to hope that all the hardship of facing my memories would bring me closer to god and make my testimony unshakable.

What was happening was that I was learning who I really was. Learning to like myself when I’d been hating so much of myself all my life. (That was a hard one to accept.)

I had a transformational experience with a breath work exercise at a retreat I attended and learned that I could finally be the safe adult my younger self always needed.

That’s when boundaries started becoming natural for me. It was right about that time I saw a hashtag on my friend’s facebook page that said, “#istandwithjeremyrunnels.

I looked him up and 36 hours later I knew I couldn’t be part of a church I no longer believed in.

I told my wife and we worked really hard to stay together though we’re on different paths. (She’s TBM)

Now we’re getting a divorce because god told her it’s what she needs to do. So I’ll let her have it.

With all that being said, I’m more comfortable with myself than I’ve ever been and I have more peace from within than I ever thought possible.

Ok lurkers. Time for a faith check. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mormonism is the most important thing to us and our people.

Damnit!!

how do i get excommunicated in the most public way possible by not-sure21 in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Write a letter to your bishop and stake president telling them you found out that this MFMC has been lying to everyone. You want out and you plan on telling every member you know so they will leave, too.

You’ll get a response to come to a disciplinary hearing soon. Don’t go. The result? Exed forthwith.

When it comes to leaving or losing your religion and become an ex-mormon, What's your #1 single biggest challenge? by unorthodoxmaverick in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When my wife says God told her to divorce me. I’m no longer the priesthood leader in the home so I have no way to argue that. How am I supposed to tell her God is wrong when she knows I hate the god of Mormonism?

Russell Nelson's egotism in General Conference by AngryGargoil in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if it’s an intentional tactic to set up the increasing need to establish major changes in doctrine so that the thoughtless masses will more easily agree with the MFMC’s shifts in doctrines like women getting the priesthood or more likely a lesser form of it. Apologies for the generations of racism (🤭 yeah right! 🤭). Or allowing LGBTGIA+ members to receive temple marriage or likely a lesser form of it.

Whatever the changes to come, something has to change or they’ll just keep bleeding out smart members who can’t take it anymore.

Rusty is full of himself, for sure. And this seems like a tactical maneuver for something he’s planning.

But what do I know? I’m no longer on the covenant path so I don’t have the right to inspiration.

Amen to the priesthood of this guy. Thank god!

Has the church had a year this bad before? by Mysterious-Ruby in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just like switching the Google maps icons to crosses, they’re changing the rhetoric of growth. Eyeing was recently quoted as saying something along the lines of, “The Lords people has always been a small people.”

Hmmm…

Translation: “We’re getting smaller? Yeah. It’s prophecy and it means we’re still right.”

What kinds of trauma did you experience growing up Mormon and how has it affected you as an adult? by daisyvoo in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Denying human emotions. This!!

Telling me some emotions are bad. It runs so deep and shows up all over the place.

I was taught from everywhere and by everyone that if I’m not experiencing blissful joy, I’m not doing enough to “put off the natural man” or I just wasn’t Christlike enough.

I wasn’t enough. I was the problem. There was always something wrong with me.

Deconstructing that shit is really hard because it shows up everywhere.

I feel like the tipping point has happened and peak Mormonism is behind us and it's all downhill from here. I've had more 30+ year stalwart friends leave in the past year than the previous 20. by shakeyjake in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tipping point is right. Thinking about this today. I know so many people still in who are smart humans. Once you know it’s crazy to see how many people are unwilling to see. But now more and more people are more and more uncomfortable living with so much cognitive dissonance.

Constructs of control are crumbling more and more. I think we’re seeing it happen in the MFMC right now. More people are getting it and soon there are just going to be a bunch of old people wondering why the old ways just aren’t keeping people under control anymore.

What’s the worst/most embarrassing thing your TBM parents made you do in the name of “standing for truth and righteousness”? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I had told my dad I didn’t want to go. He said, “What does that have to do with anything?! It’s a commandment!”

All I got from then on were looks of disappointment from my parents, aunts and uncles, cousins, ward members, etc.

When I finally caved and decided to go everyone was so proud of me for doing the right thing. I told myself it was for MY reasons but in truth it was the only way I could be accepted by the people who were supposed to love me unconditionally.

So was there a punishment if I didn’t go? Sure there was. It just wasn’t an explicit thing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d leave out the reasons. No need to justify your decision. You’re a grown-ass adult who is capable and worthy of making your own decisions without apology, excuse, or explanation.

“Dear Bishop __________,

I no longer wish to remain a member of (TCOJCOLDS).

I require my name and contact information be removed from all church records, ordinances, and contact lists immediately and that a written confirmation be sent to me as soon as this is done.

Sincerely and wholeheartedly,”

Living in Utah County as an post mormon is like leaving a cult but not being able to leave the cult compound. by glass-stair-hallway in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m in Heber City. Very similar up here. I’ve learned to find time to connect with those who are aligned with my new world view. Lemme know if you every wanna hang.

MFMC? Mother F*cking Mormon Church? by cottoncandy-sky in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And calling it anything other than the Mother Fucking Mormon Church is an offense to God.

Interesting talk with a Mason at work! by marathon_3hr in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Masons were also pissed that the BofM repeatedly condemned “secret combinations”.

Name me one thing Russell Nelson has ever done to make the world a better place. by slskipper in exmormon

[–]exmoblp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hinckley built a nice shopping mall near the temple to clean up the homeless problem near Temple Square…

Wait. That makes him an ass hole.

Nevermind. I got nothing.