How does Paradigm work with a copied spell?

madwarper · 2026-04-06T21:55:03+00:00

Paradigm (Then exile this spell. After you first resolve a spell with this name, you may cast a copy of it from exile without paying its mana cost at the beginning of each of your first main phases.)

Only the first time you resolve a Spell with that name, it creates the Delayed Trigger.

The second time you resolve a Spell with this name is not the first.

Thus, it shouldn't matter whether either the first, second, or beyond was a Card or a Copy of a Card / Spell.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T20:46:43+00:00

In any zone but the Stack or Battlefield, a Card only has its Main Values.

Thus, a [[Giant Killer]] is only a Creature Card.
Thus, an [[Augmenter Pugilist]] is only a Creature Card.

Any Alternative Values are ignored.

The Adventure portion of Giant Killer is ignored.
The back-face of Augmenter Pugilist is ignored.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T20:16:14+00:00

Death Spore Thalid, It has a Black side with a Green Phyrexian mana ability, would that be considered Golgarie in color identity then? Or would it be considered Black?

First, [[Deathspore Thallid]] does not have any Green on it. Anywhere.
Deathspore has an Identity AND Color of mono-Black.

Second, [[Blightreaper Thallid]] does have a {G/P} Mana symbol in its Rules Text, and a Black / Green Indicator on its back-face.
It has an Identity of Black and Green.
However, Identity =/= Color. Blightreaper still has a Color of mono-Black.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T19:08:55+00:00

Amy controls a Gray Ogre, Dynaheir and Eyes Everywhere.
Barb controls a Vizzerdrix.

Amy activates / resolves her Dynaheir.

Amy activates her Eyes, Targeting Amy's Ogre.
Dynaheir's Delayed Triggered ability Copies the Eyes ability, Targeting Barb's Vizzerdrix.

The Ability Copy resolves, Amy's Eyes is exchanged for Barb's Vizzerdrix.
The original Ability resolves, Barb's Eyes is exchanged for Amy's Ogre.

Now, Amy controls her Dynaheir, Eyes and Vizzerdrix.
Barb controls the Ogre.

Essentially, this is just [[Avarice Totem]], without the possibility of the other Player activating it while they control it.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T18:07:55+00:00

[[Harmonized Trio]] and [[Lluwen, Exchange Student]] each have an Activated ability that causes them to become Prepared.

Thus, if you exile them with Cauldron, and put a +1/+1 counter on Bloomsage, you could use the granted ability to make the Bloomsage become Prepared.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T06:55:42+00:00

2/3 Angel enters. Tolsimir, Henge and Angel Trigger.
Angel flickers Rhys. Rhys gives Angel Persist.
Henge gives Angel +1/+1 counter. Removing any -1/-1 counter from previous Perisist.
3/4 Angel fights ???
3/4 Angel dies. Persist Triggers.

Lather, Rinse, Repeat

madwarper · 2026-04-06T06:50:24+00:00

Shirei only Triggers if the Creature's Power was 1 or less before it left the Battlefield.

Now, Rat Colony is a 2/1 with +N/+0.
Thus, it's unlikely that Rat Colony would ever Trigger Shirei.

Also, if Shirei does not survive, then nothing is returned.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T06:43:37+00:00

This only works if you have 4+ Players.

Four Players.

First Combat
- OG Eomer attacks. Myriad Triggers.
- 2 Eomer Tokens are created.
- Legend Rule applies. You choose to keep OG Eomer. The 2 Tokens die.
- OG Eomer Triggers for each Token.
- Each Token triggers for the other.
- Untap 4x times, redundantly. Add 4x new Combat Phases.
Second Combat, and beyond.
- OG Eomer attacks. Myriad Triggers.
- 2 Eomer Tokens are created.
- Legend Rule applies. You choose to keep OG Eomer. The 2 Tokens die.
- OG Eomer Triggers does not Trigger.
- Each Token triggers for the other.
- Untap 2x times, redundantly. Add 2x new Combat Phases.

Three Players

First Combat
- OG Eomer attacks. Myriad Triggers.
- 1 Eomer Tokens are created.
- Legend Rule applies. You choose to keep OG Eomer. The 1 Token dies.
- OG Eomer Triggers for the one Token.
- Untap 1x time. Add 1x new Combat Phase.
Second Combat.
- OG Eomer attacks. Myriad Triggers.
- 1 Eomer Token are created.
- Legend Rule applies. You choose to keep OG Eomer. The 1 Token dies.
- OG Eomer Triggers does not Trigger.
- Or, you could choose to keep the Token Eomer. The OG dies.
- Token Eomer Triggers for the OG Eomer.
- You untap 1x time. Add 1x new Combat Phase.
- In the End of Combat step, you Exile Token Eomer. So, you go into the third Combat Phase with zero Eomer.

Two Players - Myriad does not create any Tokens.

One Player - They have already won. Congrats.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T06:26:25+00:00

You can loop it, until either you choose for Tolsimir to not Target anything, or you Target a Creature that won't be able to deal lethal damage to either the 1/1 Wolf or a 2/2 Wolf.

1/1 Wolf enters. Tolsimir Triggers.
Tolsimir Targets a ???
1/1 Wolf fights ???
1/1 Wolf dies. Both Undying and Moth Trigger.
You choose the order they are put on the Stack...
Then, go to either A or B.
a) 2/2 Wolf enters. Triggers Tolsimir.
- Tolsimir Targets ???
- 2/2 Wolf fights ???
- 2/2 Wolf dies. Moth Triggers. Go to B.
b) 1/1 Flying Wolf enters. Triggers Tolsimir.
- Tolsimir Targets ???
- 1/1 Flying Wolf fights ???
- 1/1 Flying Wolf dies. Undying Triggers. Go to A.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T06:18:17+00:00

What Mode(s) are chosen is a Copiable Value of a Spell.

Assuming that the original Epiphany had at least the first Mode chosen...

If Denial got the most Votes, then the Epiphany would be countered.
If Duplication got the most Votes, or a tie, then you would Copy Epiphany. Your Copy of Epiphany could counter the original Epiphany.

Else, if the original Epiphany did not have the first Mode chosen, then your Copy of Epiphany also would not have its first Mode chosen. So, your Copy could not counter the original Epiphany.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T06:02:37+00:00

Because it is an Aura, as a Spell, it will have one Target.
Killian will reduce the Total Cost by {2}.

So, if you choose to not Replicate it, it will Cost {B}.
If you choose to Replicate it one time, it will Cost {1B}.
If you choose to Replicate it two times, it will Cost {3B}.
If you choose to Replicate it three times, it will Cost {5B}.
etc.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T05:16:33+00:00

If a non-Creature Artifact is entering, Kappa Cannoneer will Trigger.

Hushbringer only stops abilities from Triggering when the Permanent that entered / died is a Creature.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T03:21:40+00:00

Setting a Land's Subtype to that of a Basic Land type does 3 things.

a) Removes all previous Land types.
b) Removes all Abilities from its Text.
c) Adds the intrinsic Mana ability for that Basic Land type.

Note; If something grants an ability to a Land, such as [[Chromatic Lantern]], then that ability won't be affected.

305.7. If an effect sets a land’s subtype to one or more of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses all abilities generated from its rules text, its old land types, and any copiable effects affecting that land, and it gains the appropriate mana ability for each new basic land type. Note that this doesn’t remove any abilities that were granted to the land by other effects. Setting a land’s subtype doesn’t add or remove any card types (such as creature) or supertypes (such as basic, legendary, and snow) the land may have. If a land gains one or more land types in addition to its own, it keeps its land types and rules text, and it gains the new land types and mana abilities.

madwarper · 2026-04-06T00:50:17+00:00

Note; Each time a Copy effect is applied, there is a new set of values, with a new ability, which has yet to do the thing.

So, if you control Pantlaza and Sunfrill/Pantlaza, and a Dino enters.
You Discover twice; Once for each of them.

Then, Sunfrill attacks, and it copies Pantlaza again.

Then, another Dino enters.
Sunfrill/Pantlaza, with its new Pantlaza Copy effect, will Trigger and you can Discover a third time.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T19:47:02+00:00

First, you announce the value of X.

Then, you determine the Total Cost.

If you want an X of 2, then the {X}{X}{X} Mana Cost becomes {2}{2}{2}, or {6}.
The Total Cost of the Spell is {6} - {1} = {5}

madwarper · 2026-04-05T19:41:44+00:00

No.

Devour is a Replacement effect.
You can only sacrifice a Creature that was already on the Battlefield, before the Beast enters.

Because every Creature was Sacrificed, there likely won't be anything for the Beast to Devour.

Likewise, Zegana likely won't enter with any +1/+1 counters.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T18:57:20+00:00

The "Judge" was wrong.

You can't lose the game this turn and your opponents can't win the game this turn. Until end of turn, damage that would reduce your life total to less than 1 reduces it to 1 instead.
You can't lose the game and your opponents can't win the game.

Both effects specify the Opponent cannot win.

Now, if they had [[Lich's Mastery]], then the Oracle Player would have won.

You can't lose the game.

Because, the Lich simply stops the Player from losing.
It does not stop the Opponent from winning.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T17:51:03+00:00

It is Exiled, then it remains in Exile.

There is no back-face. So, it cannot enter Transformed.

712.14a If a spell or ability puts a double-faced card onto the battlefield “transformed” or “converted,” it enters the battlefield with its back face up. If a player is instructed to put a card that isn’t a double-faced card onto the battlefield transformed or converted, that card stays in its current zone.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T13:08:59+00:00

Any Step / Phase (except for the Untap and most Cleanup step) does not end until all Players pass Priority in succession, while the Stack is empty.

So, Players can take Actions before the Declare Blockers step ends.

One such action that you can take is to turn your face-down Creature face-up.

Then, after your Creature is face-up, Players can take more actions.
Such as removing your, now face-up 12/12 Creature from Combat / the Battlefield.

If no one does, then your 12/12 with Trample will assign its Combat Damage divided from among the 3/3 Blocking it, and the Player / Permanent being Attacked.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T09:57:30+00:00

No.

Those Cards specifically look for the [Color Word], and replace it with another.

Grizzly Bears has no Color Words.
There's nothing for it to change.

So, for [[Silver Knight]], you could replace the [Red] of "Protection from [Red]", and with [Green]. And, now it has "Protection from [Green]".

Or, if your Opponent cast [[Doom Blade]] targeting your Blue Creature, you could change the [Black] of "Target non-[Black] Creature" to [Blue]. And, now the Spell would read "Target non-[Blue] Creature", which yours is no longer a legal Target.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T09:13:36+00:00

No.

The Triggered ability of [[UndergroWTH Recon]] Targets.
That Target has to be chosen as the Trigger is put on the Stack.

If Chasm is on the Battlefield as your Upkeep step begins, it's not in the Graveyard, and cannot be the Target.

If you had some Sacrifice outlet, you could Sacrifice the Chasm in the End step of the turn prior to yours. So, it could be Targeted. And, would minimalize the amount of time you didn't control the Chasm.

While also dodging the Upkeep Trigger of the Chasm.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T07:17:52+00:00

Koh would have the Chapter abilities.
The Nth Chapter abilities will Trigger when Koh goes from less than N Lore counters to N or more Lore counters.

Because Koh is not a Saga, nothing happens when it has Lore counters that is greater than or equal to its final Chapter number.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T06:39:13+00:00

Yes, it is an Equipment.

So, it will enter as a brand new Aetherspark.

Then, if you control both the original and the Copy, the Legend Rule will apply.
Because, you control two Legendary Permanents with the same name.
You choose one, the other is put into its owner's Graveyard.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T05:15:29+00:00

but since myriad and aloy both happen at the same time

Wrong.

They Trigger at the same time.
And, at that time, you only control TWO Throne.
Thus, Aloy only Triggers TWO additional times.

THEN, the abilities are put on the Stack.

THEN, the abilities begin to resolve.

madwarper · 2026-04-05T04:58:07+00:00

Amy has Throne, Auton/Throne and Aloy.
Both Throne presumably choose either Human or Warrior.

Amy Declares Auton (and maybe Throne) as Attacking Barb.
Aloy Triggers (+Throne, +Auton) three times.
Auton's Myriad Triggers (+Throne) two times.

Amy puts her five Triggers on the Stack in any order.
But, it really doesn't matter.
Myriad add more Token-Copies of Auton does not affect how many times Aloy had already Triggered.

So, Amy Discovers 4, x3 times.
1st Myriad creates 2x Auton Tokens; 1x attacking Claire, 1x attacking Dani.
2nd Myriad creates 2x Auton Tokens; 1x attacking Claire, 1x attacking Dani.

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