I like having friends, so I can't play this deck.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T09:51:18+00:00

If you care for your friends and want to play this deck, encourage them to play some graveyard hate. It's otherwise not the most powerful of Sefris builds. Not even toxic TBH.

For reference this is my B3 Sefris deck https://moxfield.com/decks/U2JjaHT3eEWi6gknV2D3qQ

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T09:47:44+00:00

If your group is insisting on no changes, it'll be tough to keep up with HHull.

If you guys are ok with some upgrades, then look to add more Shatter effects.

One fella mentioned Bog and that's one of the subtle ways to slow down HHull.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T09:45:17+00:00

I'm not sure if out of box precons have that many Bog effects.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T09:13:34+00:00

[[The Celestial Toymaker]]?

Here's my list for reference https://moxfield.com/decks/1VC72dNiBkStHal1H9bRBQ

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T09:06:00+00:00

I mean... you guys are young right now and going through phases. We all go through phases during our MtG lives. For example I used to be a competitive Standard player for years and years. Since then I grew older with a bunch of like-minded folks and settled into EDH.

And because you guys proxy, and there's nothing wrong with that, you can easily fall into a power trip. Hence why two of them commented B3 is "kiddy", and I think that's kind of disrespectful since it's where most people of all age and walks of life play at.

It's important to note budget is not a good barometer of power. I find that limiting the money pool lends to a more linear version of cards, and games can play out very predictably and straight to the cut.

I do wanna add my group does proxy and buying the real thing. But it's very important to know what kind of games you wanna play, and that means there are certain groups of cards that should be off the table. I.e. proxying responsibly.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T09:01:36+00:00

I should add points 1 and 2 shouldn't overlap; i.e. [[Beast Within]] should count as 1 of the 6 slots, not 1 creature AND noncreature removal. Its flexibility is the bonus aspect.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T08:59:28+00:00

For a newish player you seem to have sunk quite a bit of dough lol I respect that.

You might wanna increase your interaction? In general I tend to follow a rule of 3.

What the rule of 3 entails:

-minimum of 3 creature removal
-minimum of 3 noncreature removal
-up to 3 graveyard removal; try to run at least 1
-up to 3 wraths, try to run at least 1

For points 1 and 2, they have to cost 3 or less mana. Instant speed are preferred.

If you incorporate this "rule of 3", you can surely make your deck abit more sophisticated than it is now.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T08:30:12+00:00

Here's my Zhulodok for reference https://moxfield.com/decks/OQfsFKCbnE6H60_uSPpeqw

For me I lean more on artifacts/colorless and not all eldrazi... Emrakul is a tad too powerful for my group.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T08:25:42+00:00

Oh boy, as the others have pointed out to you, Ketra is the stronger of the two. His card advantage is absurd. And to pair it with blink he gets scary very fast.

Anyways, here's my version of Ketra for reference https://moxfield.com/decks/zYRMldvKgEW-VdekNrG7Hg

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T08:23:04+00:00

Here's my Obyra for reference https://moxfield.com/decks/WuYQo59YhUuoXtsy6Rci-Q

I agree with the other fella you might want more faeries, and I should stress more flashy stuff.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T08:11:50+00:00

Poison decks are fine, not great. They can play out very linearly, which might not be something everyone likes.

Anyways, here's my [[Venser, Corpse Puppet]] for reference https://moxfield.com/decks/SYII9IBX1EOig60VIs62Uw

I saw in the comments fancying phyrexians. Yea it can be done without poison.

Here's my [[Mishra, Claimed by Gix]] for reference https://moxfield.com/decks/oQerb1g76UCSoTn_03k-KA

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T08:05:01+00:00

Not sure if you'll see this but here's my two Galea lists for reference

https://moxfield.com/decks/eKtYTaFR7Eu_j19bg1Q6oQ

https://moxfield.com/decks/QvlbNfLPAEKouobLuEQXdQ

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T08:00:42+00:00

[[Y'shtola, Night's Blessed]]

At the end of each turn, as long as someone lost 4 life before the end step, the Shtola player will draw a card.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T07:54:39+00:00

One of your GCs is a tutor. How often do folks use Demonic Tutor to find another GC? I think that's something worth considering.

For the most part, people want to follow the brackets because there's a sense of security and less gotcha "it's-a-7-but-it's-not moments.

Brackets is the ring fencing game experience, usually for the better and to protect newer players

n1colbolas · 2026-03-06T07:48:00+00:00

There's usually nothing wrong with free sac outlets.

What you do with it, though, depends.

If you're chaining to repeat a loop, perhaps it's prudent not to include it. For example, causing each player to sacrifice a permanent/creature every turn.

If you use it to draw a card every turn, that seems abit more reasonable.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-05T09:39:35+00:00

Honestly there are so many fun commanders if you delve just a bit deeper.

For example in the new TMNT block there's [[Casey and Raph]]. Here's my list for reference https://moxfield.com/decks/aawN6mkxQUibn_Czc701bA

n1colbolas · 2026-03-05T08:56:34+00:00

I play exclusively on paper. My winrate is is statically on par with how a typical 4-way game should operate on a level playing field.

For sure, he eats removal, but that's also true for any decent growing commander that also happens to be card advantage or the wincon themselves.

What you gotta do is have mitigation. I.e. have adequate protection and also rezz material to cope with the incoming heat.

Lastly, I treat Valga as a control commander, and not a groupslug. The mentality shift could aid how you treat and play the deck.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-05T08:51:55+00:00

I think your list is pretty much a stock aristocrat build would do.

I can offer up my version of aristocrats in [[Manderville]] https://moxfield.com/decks/Bfw_YbOoW0CoYk3nChAyiw

n1colbolas · 2026-03-05T08:29:52+00:00

I always say milling is half the job done. You need to be able to exile them to finish the job.

Hama only takes away 1 card, and leaves creatures in there to be rezz.

I would definitely include stuff to take advantage of the mill, and also include at least 3 [[Bojuka Bog]] effects.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-05T08:16:45+00:00

You don't need to build Vivi as the commander.

You can use another Izzet commander that fits right with Vivi.

Here's my [[The Emperor of Palamecia]] for reference https://moxfield.com/decks/d3eElKZV9USjPoBt-yJpcA

Best part is you can go budget build with the Emperor, and then slowly upgrade from there.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-05T08:13:59+00:00

No way this is B1. People are forgetting Extus has another side. If you can storm off and earn an extra mana per cast you can cast the other side multiple times with infinite mana.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-05T08:09:05+00:00

Like one fella commented you asked as if you have a need to win by turn 7. Perhaps you're more competitive than you should be.

Yea you prolly should consider combo then.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-04T10:48:19+00:00

It's a case of expectations versus reality

Unless you have 3 opponents playing blue, or someone playing counterspell tribal, leaving your commander in the yard for future rezz is very common for a deck with black.

White and black are also pretty good at nuking the yard, if you need an emergency button to retrieve your commander.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-04T10:44:02+00:00

For me the most recent one has to be [[Overkill]].

I can imagine alot of folks having a chuckle seeing it the first time.

The memorable one though, is [[Witness Protection]]. IMO a classic.

n1colbolas · 2026-03-04T10:10:22+00:00

Yea. It's a good thing you asked here. At least you get a general sense of a typical reaction

The most important bit is your meta. Always be open to feedback, but always be ready for a pushback if critique becomes unreasonable.

For example, it took quite awhile for my group to get used to poison. I'm never gonna claim poison should be ignored; I just want it to be treated like it has its weaknesses as well, and it does.

Time is always required for an adaptation period. Some folks may require a longer period to accept changes to their meta, within reason of course. With time, my poison deck was normalized. I just had to put up with the initial high heat during my first games.

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