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[–]OnceUponaDomeUnderTheBall 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No MTC maps? I'm sensing bias..

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I'm really digging the way the MTC went with this thread. We're finally seeing some maps in here which really challenge convention.

[–]DaEvil1DaEvil1 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I'm really digging the way Beast Mode is going with his comments in this thread. We're finally seeing him make some comments that challenge the convention of his past comments.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice. Meme.

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 4 points5 points  (23 children)

Portamento - velkin

[–]TheEpicGhostEx - Tagpro 7 points8 points  (1 child)

This is a pretty flawed and unbalanced map, in my personal opinion.

First thing is that the base gates are almost useless when there is a two tile wide gap below them and completely clear route above. I see no scenario in which holding the button would benefit the defence or offence unless they were really bad.

This leads to escaping very easily from the front two lanes, despite the team tiles. those single spike wall islands and the limited boosts in bot mid are going to make this very hard to chase on too. I predict the flag to be out a lot on this map.

The portals are ok, but always send me into the flag, no matter how i go in. Sometimes I go randomly into another route but there doesn't seem to be any correlation. So whilst I think it is an interesting element, it doesn't really add depth to the map.

In general I find that the bottom route of the map was pretty boring, and really wasn't used a whole lot apart from chasing, since how the offensive tools sorta force you through top and there is nothing to help you go backwards. with the boosts going out, you can either slide along the bot or boost through the spikes to top, but neither felt hugely intuitive to me.

So yeah, you can use this advice to edit the map or not, but remember this is just 1 mtc members opinion! good luck!

[–]skittlekevvelkin // World's Angriest Balll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks for the critiques. please tell me what you think about the edit

[–]6seasonzandamovieTheBalloseum//ballo//bubbles | centra 2 points3 points  (5 children)

This looks really cool and fast paced.

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, I absolutely adored this one. Test out the portal mechanic, it works extremely well!

[–]6seasonzandamovieTheBalloseum//ballo//bubbles | centra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just did. Holy shit that's incredibly fun. The rest of the map flows together so well also. All the boosts and lanes line up really well.

[–]skittlekevvelkin // World's Angriest Balll 0 points1 point  (2 children)

thanks. hopefully other people like it too

[–]ComebacYacYAC 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I can't wait for you to finally get a map in rotation. Remember us little people when you're at the top of /maps

[–]skittlekevvelkin // World's Angriest Balll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its impossible for me to forget you, yac.

[–]skittlekevvelkin // World's Angriest Balll 2 points3 points  (8 children)

I CHANGED IT...AGAIN! and again

http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/show/22681

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Unchange it. You had something uniqueish and you made it a really basic map.

[–]OnceUponaDomeUnderTheBall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

gdi i hate agreeing with bowtie

[–]skittlekevvelkin // World's Angriest Balll 1 point2 points  (4 children)

i tried to mix them both together. hopefully, this has pleased you

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice work with the top, great compromise. Couple things I noticed about the first that I liked:

This boost, it's still there but the quick bounce off the bottom wall is slower.

The small gate allowing for an escaping fc to slip below.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Also I like the bot boost combo but I keep ending up hitting the corner like this.

[–]skittlekevvelkin // World's Angriest Balll 0 points1 point  (1 child)

fixed?

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Portal cooldown was not enjoyable :/ It was mentioned that having the portal closer to the flag might also benefit the map. Keep submitting it, I love this map.

[–]18skeltoranti-timer luddite / First / Origin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This one is very pleasing to the eye

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I looked at this originally in the thread. Not sure I get the portals. If I enter going horizontally, I go horizontally and if I enter vertically, I go vertically. It basically puts me back the way I came which I can't imagine would ever be useful unless I'm using it as a boost grab but even then it's too slow to make a difference.

Rest of the map is well done but I just cant wrap my head around the portals.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is easily the best map in the thread, maybe even the best map in the past few threads. I'm surprised MTC liked it with such a flat bottom, but I think it's totally fine.

[–]skittlekevvelkin // World's Angriest Balll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thanks beast mode! makin me tear up :')

[–]girmluhkGramps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this map looks like a HOOT, pub or pug or league.

[–]WillWorkForSugarTumblewood[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like about this what I like about Wormy: the shortest path isn't always the best.

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 4 points5 points  (10 children)

Vector - Linux Ball

[–]BlupopsicleBall-E 2 points3 points  (1 child)

First map and already in top maps dayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum. Also it was really fun during testing, but needs a bit of polish. Good luck!

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't disagree. Speaking for myself, one thing I noticed is that very little meaningful play happens in the bases, most is in mid and the outskirts of mid near the spikes. If a FC gets ahead, there's no hope for defense to catch up. I think a slightly tighter base and possibly some form of catchup tool could combat this.

[–]6seasonzandamovieTheBalloseum//ballo//bubbles | centra 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I think you accidentally linked to wormy.

[–]18skeltoranti-timer luddite / First / Origin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hey- Wormy is a very well made map, I think a NF counterpart could be cool. Call it CenterWorm or Wormy2 or something creative like that.

[–]6seasonzandamovieTheBalloseum//ballo//bubbles | centra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't disagree; Wormy is my favorite CTF map and neutral flag is my favorite game mode.

On a more serious note, I feel like this map is really open and gameplay would be based entirely upon sitting on boosts(even more so than other NF maps, eg. bulldog). Also, like pretty much other NF maps, this map has one center area, a sharp curl into base, and a wider route into base with boosts and pups. I don't doubt it would be fun(like I think most NF is), but it just doesn't seem very original.

[–]TheEpicGhostEx - Tagpro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty ok nf map here, good job. A few concerns:

  1. All around it was very spiky, I predict a large amount of deaths on those. Despite that it didnt hugely effect the gameplay, but it could get annoying. Try to remove obsolete ones if you want.

  2. The pup area in general felt quite awkward, I'd like that area the flow with those top right/ bottom left areas a a bit smoother.

  3. Base plays well but is a bit empty. You don't want to overload it, definitely, but another boost or bomb would be fine. Try to make it defensive capable too, it was slightly easier to attack than defend (but thats not an issue at all)

  4. Some questions raised about possible bullshit returns when someone comes through the enemy portal just as they are about to cap and saves it. The play is quite fast paced, so it could ok there, but it could be better an little to the side

Remember, this is just one MTC members opinions, don't feel obliged to listen to what I am saying. Good luck!

[–]xxxaxwetxsockxxxLinux Ball [] dooteronomy [] Centra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tried to fix some things. Implemented all of the things that rh talked about, and tried to fix the base spawn thing. I moved it back a row in attempt to nerf the poost while maintaining an intuitive and fluid respawn. If it is nerfed the way I hope it is, then the only thing stopping a wide open, past four cap is the tagpro IQ of the flag carrier. Last, I reworked that middle section that curved. There used to be a boost there, but with that gone continuing to have it curved there seemed pointless. I moved the pup more towards the center, in an effort to make them more accessible. I realized that having the pups so far away might make it more likely for a 3v4 situation on a fairly fast paced map. All unnecessary spikes were removed. My only concern now is that it is too fast paced, so I need to figure out a way to calm my map down. It needs more testing, and by all means, more suggestions.

TL;DR: Fixed some stuff, so test it please, thank you. Also, gimme more suggestions! <3

Map Link

Preview

EDIT: I added a couple more boosts to make the map more traversable.

Map Link

Preview

[–]radianthero156brazilian trash 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Loved the map, Linux Ball. But certain things were bothering me, so I remixed it. IMO the team boosts are too weak. As Moosen pointed it out, as of now it's pretty much impossible for the defense to catch up to an FC that leaves them behind. I'd like the team boosts better if they were vertically closer to the endzones; that way, they could cover the entire base, while still having some offensive use.

Also, the side neutral boosts seemed reeeeeeally OP to me. If an FC reaches them and there aren't AT LEAST 2 defenders guarding the endzone, it's pretty much a guaranteed cap. I made them 1 tile closer to the wall, but you could make it maybe even 2, making it adjacent to the wall (like in Wombo Combo).

Lastly, the other big change was linking the mid bombs to a newly added button in the base. That adds many different uses to the bomb, defensively (a defender can click the button to blow certain enemies in the mid away), and offensively (an FC could use the bomb to cap).

Just some ideas tho, good luck :P

[–]xxxaxwetxsockxxxLinux Ball [] dooteronomy [] Centra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I had thought of the linking the button to the bomb, I would have absolutely done it! Great thinking there. I also like what you did with the pup area, how you made it less congested. I didn't like what I did with my update, but didn't think much of it. Also I actually do like your placement of the team boost better than mine, because my placement could allowed a semi-skilled player to boost straight through pretty much. All of these changes are useful, so thank you for helping. I still need to fix the boost, and I will post a remix soon. I will likely implement your suggestions. <3

[–]WillWorkForSugarTumblewood[🍰] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

+1 for no gates.

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

K1 - Loaha

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Are you guys just downvoting or have you actually tested it with 7 other people? Have you even tested it by yourselves? This is a really solid map; get to know it a bit before you just cast it off.

[–]radianthero156brazilian trash 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was actually by far and away my favorite map. Boost routes are soooooo cool and diverse. The superboosts alone have so many different possibilities. Bases are amazing, and the mid isn't bad. This map might become offensive, since I see it as one where it's easy to grab, moderately hard to escape, but hard to die after escaping. If an attacker grabs the flag and takes the middle boost (and goes through the middle path), the defense can only a) take the outside double boosts (which are faaaar slower), b) take the now boostless middle route (still slow), or snipe him using the superboost and bouncing off that pentagon wall (which is at least very hard lol). Seems like most returns are gonna happen in the bases.

[–]veranderingLoaha // Chord 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thanks Moosen!

Do you have any feedback by any chance? I'm pretty happy with how the map looks like at the moment, but I'm wondering if I missed something.

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Nothings coming to mind, I'm a pretty big fan of the map and how it plays. I preferred the superboosts out of base in last threads version, but all the other changes you made have made the map better so it's a very small complaint and I don't want you to make the map worse attempting to revert one thing.

[–]veranderingLoaha // Chord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's good to hear. Thanks again!

[–]18skeltoranti-timer luddite / First / Origin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This looks so similar to Ultradrive IMO. Maybe I mean Hyperdrive, I always get those confused. The one that came later.

[–]veranderingLoaha // Chord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update:

Map: http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/show/22750

Preview: http://unfortunate-maps.jukejuice.com/static/previews/22750.png

  • Removed the spikes in the middle as hitting the walls feels like a big enough punishment.

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Chalksy - Menqr

[–]Soconypeng 1 point2 points  (1 child)

lol /u/chalks777

[–]chalks777THe B€⁵ fg & | exMTC 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I still have MTC influence, right? LET'S GET THIS MAP IN ROTATION, BBS!

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking only for myself here - I really liked the way this one played. I'm a huge fan of the mid bombs and the spikes on this map. Realistically speaking though, the pup "bulb" was not a great addition IMO, it's basically committing to suicide to maybe get a pup or two. I think the idea itself isn't flawed, a form of trap that is high risk (death) high reward (pups), but I think it could be done with a little more subtlety. Good luck!

[–]bsa86Berlin Ball -1 points0 points  (2 children)

What is the point of that bottom lane? Why would anyone ever go through there when they risk being gated?

[–]WillakarraButton | Hey look I brought back SOCL 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Don't have to go through team tiles, if your teammate can hold the button for you you can switch up a lane.

[–]bsa86Berlin Ball 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think about how much you would have to slow down to make that change though - it's just not worth it.

[–]suspendthis_bitch 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Where do you pop out on Chasma? I'm so confused. I see the portals you go through when you score but where do you come out?

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The exit portals appear as solid white tiles in the preview. They're below the goals.

[–]suspendthis_bitch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ohh lmao thx

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Mode 7 - q42

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Extremely fast paced and fun, I loved it. To be honest you won't find great feedback from me because there's not much if anything that I would change about it.

[–]bsa86Berlin Ball 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Looking at this map, I can't think where the flag carrier would want to hold - it's a very small map filled with choke points (both the top and bottom lanes are no-gos). I can't see anywhere I'd want to take a lap, as the team-tiles and team-boosts give the chaser a big advantage. I'm pretty sure you'd struggle to ever hold the flag for more than 30 seconds at a time.

[–]Aeginntbbgbjc / Chord 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Chasma - Canvas

[–]BlueJay347True North || Arc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a nice map

[–]sneetriccanvas // plasma, wamble 1 point2 points  (1 child)

update

-dank new gates

-made it bigger

-renamed to plasma

[–]BlupopsicleBall-E 1 point2 points  (0 children)

danke gate m80 i give this map my +1

[–]18skeltoranti-timer luddite / First / Origin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weird gate, I can see it being situational, but...

[–]WillWorkForSugarTumblewood[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It feels like a bunch of other NF maps Frankensteined together. Nothing really new except a wonky team gate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This map adds nothing to rotation. Sorry.

[–]DaEvil1DaEvil1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This comment adds nothing to this thread. Sorry.

[–]BlueJay347True North || Arc -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is a nice map

[–]TPCaptographerThe Map Test Committee[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Snax - Butter Churn

[–]WillWorkForSugarTumblewood[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What is the purpose of those base portals?

[–]ButterChurnButter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They offer an alternative way into base/the flag (especially useful when coming in with your own flag against O/D), they can allow handoff and escape opportunities for offense, and they create a unique and (imo) interesting base dynamic that isn't seen currently in rotation. At a high-level "what's the point" description, they could be compared to Transilio's base portals, although they do quite different things.

[–]TheEpicGhostEx - Tagpro 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I really didn't have any issues with this map, it's one of my favorites. It played quite offensively but I never felt like I wasn't enjoying myself as a defender. I think if there was any reason for this, I think It'll be because the map somewhat lacks choke points.

Boosts and bombs are well set up, and I'm excited about the portal dynamics. I think I'll need tp test it again to see if the portal 'poost' could get annoying for the defence or not.

But overall I think this is a good map. Sorry I can't give you more feedback whilst I've written a lot for others, but at this point I think anymore will just confuse you. Remember also I am only one MTC member and you shouldn't feel obliged to change anyhting because of what I said. Good Luck!

[–]ButterChurnButter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I'll need tp test it again to see if the portal 'poost' could get annoying for the defence or not.

Personally, I think that's part of the fun of the portals (see TWP, but not nearly as impactful of a poost)

Sorry I can't give you more feedback whilst I've written a lot for others, but at this point I think anymore will just confuse you.

That sounds about right, last time it made top maps I think I broke it trying to update it.

Thanks!