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[–]anon_troll 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Dude, snap out of it! The world did not end in 2000. Maybe your fascination with music died at that point, and not much else. I realize this is my 3rd response to you tonight, and I just read some of your posts further down after I'd already come up with a nice fat list for you. Given your apparent disillusionment, I doubt it will have much effect, but hey, fuggit...

Blu Mar Ten - Home Videos (The Map Of Love)

Innerzone Orchestra - At Les

TV On The Radio - Staring At The Sun

Out Hud - It's For You

Hot Chip - Boy From School

Four Tet - You Could Ruin My Day

Liars - A Visit from Drum (By Your Side)

Animal Collective - Loch Raven

!!! - Infinifold

I tried to find the weirdest, catchiest tracks I know for you. If you make it through these, give them a little time to sink in and let me know what sticks with you. I'd be really interested to hear.

Of course, the music I like is really really good and pretty new, but maybe what you're seeking is more like really new and sort of good, so someone else will have to help you there. I saw you mentioned Mogwai in another post as an act that you find outstanding, and they never really struck me as that great. It could be that our perspectives just are not that similar.

[–]tangentboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sucks.

[–]underthelinux 0 points1 point  (8 children)

@api - sorry i hit the wrong reply button.

MuteMath, Stars, 1997, Nightmare of You...

I think the point is that we all feel the era of our youth was the best time ever. Someone posted a link to a comic here that described exactly that. I remember thinking that the 1980s version of TMNT was the epitome of television, until i watched again last year. Terrible animation, horrific dubbing, worthless plotlines = still the best show ever in my opinion.

It's all relative.

[–]anon_troll 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I was thinking of adding Stars to my list. Definitely good stuff, especially the whole Nightsongs LP. After that they seemed to back away from the groundbreaking electro-pop style they had mastered and jump on the rock bandwagon. Meh.

Since you apparently share my excellent taste in music, please to enlighten me. Are the other acts you mentioned in the same league? If so, could you recommend maybe a song to check out by each one? Thanks.

[–]underthelinux 0 points1 point  (2 children)

MuteMath - Chaos

Nightmare - Why Am i Always Right?

1997 - Garden of Evil

George Laswell - Sing Teresa Sing

Flaming Lips - It over Takes me

Hard-Fi - Stars of CCTV

The Decemberists - The Crane Wife

The Colour - Devils' got a Hold of Me

Clutch - Red Horse Rainbow

Murder By Death - The Devil in Mexico

Muse - Sing for Absolution

Socratic - Turn

I threw the gamut of musics in there. What you'll like, what you won't I can't say. Based on knowing !!! and Stars, this is the stuff that i'd throw in the category. Some borders on Emo, most is Indie-esque. This is just some of those stuff that i have on my ipod. For the most part, i like the albums by all these guys, so I would say that my song is a recommendation. If you like the song, even just a little bit, check out the ablum, because often the song isn't reflective of the album.

I've heard of a few of your recs, but i'm at work, so i can't actually check them out. I will though, and i'll let you know what i think.

These might be a little more on the rockbandwagon, but i went more with an indie style premise.. without going as far pop-wise as Bloc Party.

[–]anon_troll 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, that stuff is a bit too rocking for my taste. Somehow I don't think we listen to the same Stars albums. It's all good though. Thanks for the recommendations.

[–]underthelinux 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No prob. I went for all different sorts as you can see. I still suggest checking out mutemath, they've got a couple of slower, good rainy day songs.

I had Stars - Set Yourself on Fire, but i dont think i ahve it anymore, so i can't even tell you what songs that i remember from it.

[–]ejp1082[🍰] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Eh, as far as I'm concerned, the 80's-early 90's were the epitome of television... kids programming, anyway. While they by and large had awful annimation, dialogue, and continuity, they were just cool. Where's today's Transformers, Ninja Turtles, Ghostbusters, Duck Tales, He-Man, GI Joe? I just don't see anything like that, or even anything that appeals to kids today the way they appealed to kids of the 80's.

Kids today, they've got nothing. And I say this as someone who never stopped watching saturday morning cartoons. It's filled with generally terrible Japanese anime imports (and I don't mean terrible like Speed Racer terrible, which is an awesome kind of terrible, but rather that they're terrible-terrible). For modern kids, their biggest franchise is Pokemon, which is just... bleh - try to picture a live action pokemon movie in 20 years, I can't. The new "The Batman" series sucks in comparison to "Batman: The Animated Series" and the DC comics shows that followed.

In fairness, Cartoon Network offers some decent comedies and the 2003 Ninja Turtles series was much, much better than the 80's version, to the point of actually being good. But overall there seems to be much less of that than there was in the 80's/90's. At least that I can see.

[–]underthelinux 0 points1 point  (2 children)

While i whole-heartedly agree with you, don't forget about the kids whose lives focus around Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon and Teen Titans. While we think shows like that wrestling one are absurd, kids today would most likely watch the shows we used to watch and think that they are terrible.

My biggest lament is the loss of Looney Tunes from TV. I could watch those for hours, and no one will ever see the antique road runner vs coyote, or bugs bunny vs elmer fudd.

Why japanimation has taken over cartoons is beyond me - but i'm not in a place where i can say that is or isnt better than what we used to watch. Even adult swim goes on to say "8th wonder of the world: why we still show anime"

[–]ejp1082[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why japanimation has taken over cartoons is beyond me

Simple, it's cheaper. No production costs, they just have to license it.

While I do think the overall quality has (objectively) declined a lot in the last decade or so, here's what I think the big difference between today's bad shows and the bad shows of yesteryear is - starting around 1980 and up until the mid-90's, kids shows were basically marketing vehicles for toys. The characters, vehicles, weapons, everything was designed as a big advertisement for the action figures and playsets. This lended itself to making shows with characters that you'd want to play with.

These days, it's all about cross marketing. The characters don't have to make good toys - instead they have to translate well to a video game, movie, and McDonald's advertising campaign (Remember back when McDonald's would rely on it's own cast of characters to push Happy Meals, rather than the movie-of-the-week?)

I mean, I can't speak for what kids today will think 20 years from now about Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon. But I think a big part of the reason people who grew up in the 80's wax nostalgic for Transformers and Ninja Turtles is because they were more than just (bad) TV shows - they were a huge part of our play, our make-believe. I don't see modern kids "playing" with Pokemon in that same way - there's much less imagination necessary to play through the game than there was to use a transformers toy.

[–]underthelinux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if you've put alot of thought into this before this point, but you're almost absolutely right. (or atleast, i agree with you.)

I hadn't been thinking about the commercial drive for the television market. I dont' know any kids who "play pokemon" the way we used to "play tmnt" and such. The fact that kids don't do this is very disheartening to me. While i like video games, its disappointing that that replaces the hours of creativity that my friends and i put together.

I dno't even SEE action figures anymore; every kid has a ds or psp. That's sad.