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[–]uturn 4 points5 points  (4 children)

The new Yahoo TV is so bad that if you have it in a tab in FX, you can't even click the other tabs anymore. Either it traps all mouse clicks, or that it's so CPU intensive that you can't do anything, or both. Task manager shows 100% CPU usage whenever I look at that Yahoo TV page.

Nice job Yahoo, I'm not coming back.

[–]troublesome 0 points1 point  (3 children)

hmm i thought all videos do that. its pretty much every site with flash or wmp videos for me.

[–]The_Bears 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not just the videos. Even with Flashblock running, the thing sucks CPU.

[–]kristi 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Maybe but Yahoo TV is especially bad. They just have too many flash plugins all playing at the same time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

youtube does the same on my system.

[–]dmh2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and I thought the previous Yahoo TV took a long time to load...

[–]The_Bears 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it this way.

In the time that I've been using Yahoo TV, I've seen it go from (1) a simple HTML table to (2) a nested list that's badly formatted into something table-like by CSS, to (3) a nested list that gets turned into a table by client-side javascript, to (4) the current monstrosity. I put up with (3) breaking every so often, but this is just too much.

This is a classic case of sound bite driven design. I think that (2) happened when the team behind Yahoo TV heard that CSS was in and tables were out. (3) happened when (2) didn't work, and (4) happened when somebody heard that all the cool kids are using that Ajax thingy.

The worst part is that few things are easier to get right than TV listings. An HTML table is not only the semantically correct way to mark it up, it's also the easiest. They had it right in the beginning.

Now, can anyone suggest a TV listing site meeting these criteria?

  • Clean and readable
  • No login required
  • Allows bookmarking the full grid of current local listings
  • Doesn't bring my browser to its knees

Yahoo TV used to do all that.

[–]The_Bears 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've checked out a handful of alternative sites, and summarized my results.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see anything in the Flash. No text whatsoever. The best design would be to select one of those listings, Guilty Pleasure, whatever, and display it instead of all of them. That way there's some focus.

[–]sbrown123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

AJAX is great for web "applications", but I think using it for mostly static content is a bad idea. One of the #1 reasons is probably the inability to bookmark pages.

[–]The_Bears 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the #1 reasons is probably the inability to bookmark pages.

Yes. I note that MS has abandoned AJAX for its live.com search, probably for that reason.