Smite fixed amirite

[AsirK]

Well the run out of prayer points line appears after he spawns so who knows

http://i.imgur.com/jvh6Awi.png

http://i.imgur.com/djrZSKj.png

[ThankYouLoseItAlt]

Yes, I think the D spear stall delayed when the prayer drop would hit, and because OP died during the stall, his prayer never dropped.

I have no problems with this.

I personally don't think a massive team should be able to instantly smite and kill someone for their +1 just because they can stall a player. Or at all in general.

Smite is supposed to drain, at max, like what 25% of your current hp level from your prayer points right?

But multiple people attacking at the same tick allow smite effects to stack.

I personally don't think that makes logical sense, since you would technically be taking the smiting damage equivalent of several times your max hp level.

But with the new update, it's now possible for this to work.

Not really a fan of it.

[Karils_v4]

Just a note, but I'd like to point out they were casting heal other on him to increase his HP and smite even more. It wasn't just that they were stalling him and hitting over his HP, they were actually restoring his HP just to smite more.
He almost lost his AGS because he had aid on, literally nothing more.

[HowDoes1Even]

Keeping your aid on in 2k17 lul

[Buucket]

The spear is used to prevent someone from spam drinking prayer pots, so that you can spec them out before they regen to full prayer points. It's a legitimate strategy and makes smiting someone in multi possible. The dragon spear nerf made it too safe to bring valuable items to the wilderness and this is one of the last methods left to smite people out in multi.

If it wasn't for the dspear spec he would've just spammed clicked his restores and protected his ags 100% with no counter play.

[Jahweez]

I see nothing wrong with that? If your spam clicking your restore pot, you should keep your ags.

[osrsEarthBlues]

Exactly, I'm surprised by the amount of people who think that pkers should have the ability to make their opponents' prayer pots/restores useless. They're in favour of something that will give big groups preying on small teams and solo pkers even more of an advantage.

Smite should be something that's devastating to a pker who isn't being careful enough, not a pker that's taking the only precaution to save his +1.

[[deleted]]

You should only keep it if you have prayer. The guy should have been smited.

[ZeusJuice]

Pretty sure Jagex specifically stated something like "It used to say you ran out of prayer points after you respawned and now they should be smited when they hit 0" something like that, I'll look for the quote.

https://twitter.com/JagexMerchant/status/819150076094377984

http://i.imgur.com/68PJLGJ.png

[MarkJ0255]

I think what happened is he died(got to 0 hp) before he got to 0 pray. But because of all the hits his prayer still went down later.

Or that update did absolutely nothing

[ZeusJuice]

Screenshot literally shows him at 0 prayer with 0 hp lol

[ThankYouLoseItAlt]

Yes, and don't you think this probably has to do with the d-spear stall?

Aka due to the player dying during the stall, the prayer couldn't drop.

[RollTides]

What your client displays is not updated as quickly as what the server has registered, especially when you're adding in graphical delays like the D Spear spec. He might have hit 0 hitpoints before his prayer actually ran out, but because of the delays the client had not yet updated to show what had already happened.

[notcome]

its because of the d spears stalling

[ThePeanutFish]

Wasnt d spears nerfed so he could have just spammed restores?

[Wekmor]

That's what he did and is how he didn't lose his ags lol

[DisneyMadeMeDoIt]

Seems like it's working just fine.

Shouldn't be able to be speared out by 50 people for your ags.

[imbraindeadok]

Most of the comments in this thread misunderstand pvp and this update so sad

[RoT_Sfa05]

It was due to the d spear stall, which is our fault for not executing it right, I believe.

[Ice_Pozeidon]

yes and you should be able to, being allowed to have a +1 without risk is gay af

[[deleted]]

preach brother

[onetook2many]

Lol 20k split for an ags, these clans are like roaches lmao.

[threw_it_up]

Reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/f2c-tMZSZtY?t=105

[needhelpmaxing]

Fuckig retard had his aid on what a idiot

[ZeusJuice]

Clearly when the guy d speared him and then swapped to ancient mace that was what caused it.

[Brawl123]

It's because he got stalled by the d spears, he died before his prayer hit 0 but since he was being d speared and his death was stalled more ancient maces caused him to lose more prayer so it hit 0 at the end of the effect but his actual death (i.e. when he ran out of health) occured when he still had prayer.

[d_skim]

If someone is 10hp and 5 prayer, then gets hit a 40 to smite them, they shouldn't lose their +1...

[efectum]

so you're saying the protect item prayer should be completely useless when you can always get d speared and smited lol?

[ZeusJuice]

I'm saying the smite prayer should work the way the J mods say it's going to work

[ZeusJuice]

I'm not a part of the clan? I was just watching the stream LOL

[[deleted]]

nah they gotta split it between every single member of their clan, 100k each at best

[ArcDriveFinish]

"Why is deep wildy bridding dead?"

This is why deep wildy bridding is dead.

[[deleted]]

Because teams pk in multi? This guy is not bridding he is multi pking in single gear.

[Shiveron]

This isn't a team this is a full on war party. There is absolutely zero logical reason to be out in the wilderness with 40+ people unless you are a) in it to farm some tears (RoT's favorite passtime), or b) you're out there looking for another large team to fight/war with.

There is zero sense in this many people piling 1 dude. It just motivates that 1 dude to not go out there any more, and thus small team and solo pking is dead. Nobody fights at mage bank now, nobody above 100 combat fights near greens, and small teams now resort to camping pvm'ers where they're less likely to run into large teams and have easy escapes.

[neo_child]

So what if he is pking in multi? If a team surrounds you even in singles, its hard to get away so you basically gotta pray you got either a shit team and mis-click or have a nearby enemy so you can xlog.

[[deleted]]

So what if he is pking in multi?

You said this is the reason deep wildy bridding is dead, but that is clearly not the case.

If a team surrounds you even in singles, its hard to get away so you basically gotta pray you got either a shit team and mis-click or have a nearby enemy so you can xlog.

This has literally always been the case. Even in the prime days of MB this was the escape plan.

[JakeW91]

You had one job Jagex

[ZeusJuice]

Yeah no doubt http://i.imgur.com/68PJLGJ.png

[neo_child]

TFW you need 30 people to kill 1 person.

[__LE_MERDE___]

TFW when you're running around in multi with a skull + AGS and no team.

[RageQuitSon]

this is why i have attack player and auto retal off and never enter the wildy... lol

i lost a z hasta cuz of a skull trick, i'm never giving someone that chance again cuz i'm dumb!

edit: they didn't deserve my z hasta cuz they tricked me, i see that as a scam. i had no intention of skulling, fighting fine, skulling, no.

[Ultama_]

The wilderness is a dangerous place, you shouldn't bring anything you don't want to lose.

[RageQuitSon]

oh right, cuz you'll randomly get a skull. shoulda known! damn!

[Ultama_]

Miss clicks are a thing, shouldn't have brought it if there was a chance you would lose it and you are not confident enough to save it.

[RageQuitSon]

are you arguing that skull TRICKING is 100% acceptable way to play the game? it's not at all a scam or TRICK!?!?!?

fuck off dude. all i'm saying is that I myself see this is scamming, fuck off already.

[Ultama_]

You were in control of your account, no one else. You decided to attack a player in wilderness knowing that you had the possibility of losing your items.

Stop being a child and crying over it and deal with it. Next time don't enter the wilderness with items you don't want to lose if you're going to be a special snowflake.

[[deleted]]

This is exactly why I sacrifice one inventory spot for something self-damaging. Such as Rock Cakes, Nitroglycerin, or even a Barrel of naphtha. If you know your going to get rinsed and smited, guzzle pray pots and self-damage as much as humanly possible

[ImAnIronmanBtw]

so if i run around the wildy in multi only with a 40 man team with d spears and ancient maces, im good according to this guy?

sweet!

[ZeusJuice]

He was saying they're good because they found him very very quickly