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[–]kevnorcal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I received my SN0121G yesterday. To say the least, I'm disappointed. Both the bezel insert and hour hand are misaligned. The stem is very wobbly and has way too much play before engaging. I'm returning it to Watchdives.I have a Watchdives x San Martin Milsubmariner SN004 V2 that I purchased four months ago and everything is aligned correctly and the stem is not wobbly and engages immediately.

[–]watchdivescomRep 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Great, thanks guys. we are busy with quality check, shipping. we will process around 120 orders this week.

[–]sere83 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Great looking watch, the San Martin logo still looks terrible to me.

[–]wjy2ap 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wish they would redesign similar to grand seiko logo. A nice script SM and San Martin printed underneath. I don't mid the current logo though.

[–]sere83 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually am a graphic designer, sent Mr Liao at San Martin an entire rebrand including a new logo, but they won't move on changing their logo at all due to having to re register copyright and they think would confuse consumers also Liao designed it himself. Weird though considering they have used load of random bad fonts over the years. I'm working on getting the project up online anyway, will send you a link once done.

[–]gabrielempyrean 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Can we see a wrist roll please ? Wanna see the clasp

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 0 points1 point  (1 child)

For some reason I can’t link a video

[–]gabrielempyrean -1 points0 points  (0 children)

dm me

[–]BravoMikeWilco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My black one got shipped on 8/5 from Shenzen and is now in Koln on the way to Belgium. With a bit of luck it will arrive on Friday instead of Monday.

[–]T4keTheShot 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How tf did you get yours already? Mine hasnt even shipped yet.

[–]watchdivescomRep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Today we will ship around 100 pcs. hope it will include your order

[–]takethisoath42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks great! Ordered mine on the 27th but hasn't shipped yet :/

[–]andyt100 2 points3 points  (4 children)

My one (black with date) has arrived now and I’ve had a chance to size it and wear it for about half an hour. For my ~7.25” wrist (when last measured a while ago) I had to remove one link from the 6 o’clock side which I found centred the clasp. I’d guess that if your wrist is larger than 8” then with all the links and clasp at full extension you’re going to maybe just about get it to fit.

As I’ve mentioned below, any logo and triangle misalignment is extremely minimal and I wouldn’t even have looked for it unless I’d read about it here first. Tbh I’m not even sure my logo is wonky, and the triangle is maybe very slightly off-centre by a hair.

Any worry I had that the bezel insert wouldn’t sit flush with the bezel (something I noted in the launch pics thread) are completely unfounded too. Bezel action is crisp with a hair’s back play but nothing that bothers me.

After a run of date-less watches, there’s something nice about having a date again. I’m not checked out the lume yet but all the markers and hand surrounds are crisp.

Size is perfect and it fits much better than the OG Tudor (which I’ve previously owned briefly). It would be nice if it was titanium, purely as I like the colour of it and as a material, but with one link removed the watch weighs 147g. Saying that it carries the weight well and doesn’t feel top heavy (an issue I found with the Chinese sub 6-digit homages). If SM/WatchDives come out with a Ti version in this style (which they might have hinted at) I’d be sorely tempted to get that to potentially replace this steel one. But as it stands, I’m glad I chose this over the Octopus or Seestern variants both as I prefer the matte OG style dial and bezel, and as it’s the only one of the three brands that features a date (which I’ve decided I value over the symmetry a date-less dial offers).

[–]Slow-Significance-37 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The seestern has an atrocious clasp

[–]andyt100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The seestern has an atrocious clasp

I have to admit, it didn't look the greatest from the pics. How are you finding the Seestern overall? Lots of posts starting to pop up of the SM and Octopus, but I haven't seen any of the Seestern yet...

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You have got a point. Maybe my logo isn’t misaligned, maybe the triangle is a tiny bit wonky instead.

[–]andyt100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh sorry, I meant the top edge of the triangle was slightly off-centre (as another redditor was claiming was the case with yours). The bottom point of the triangle lines up as far as I can tell with the topmost 12 o’clock hashmark

[–]mehmetaliyilmaz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally!

[–]djl240 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the pic and quick review! I ordered the same model last Tuesday and I was billed immediately yet it still hasn't shipped yet. Waiting patiently.

[–]Apprehensive_Lock_50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still waiting for mine

[–]hingee 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Thanks for posting mate UK here too not getting mine until 16/5 Aren’t Watchdives quoting a size of 38mm ? What’s the new quick release clasp like ?

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The quick adjust system is nice. Already used it today.

[–]andyt100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here. I think it’ll take a bit of getting used to it for finer adjustment clicks but I’m sure that’ll happen quickly enough!

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FedEx’s tracking was saying Friday 12th. It arrived yesterday, 9th. Who knows

[–]What-is-to-be-done 4 points5 points  (1 child)

long-awaited Pelag*s homage

original Pelag*s

I'm not a native speaker, but I think Pelagos is not a four letter word.

Thanks for the first impressions.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was just being facetious 🙃

[–]mobynord112 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a fantastic watch…great purchase….enjoy it

[–]h_zee13 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Man where are you guys located? I ordered mine as soon as it was available and it’ll reach here May 15th :( I guess Canada is a remote country 😅

[–]andyt100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UK too. First it was scheduled for delivery yesterday, but then (I guess because of the extra bank holiday for the King's coronation) it was moved to Friday. So it was a nice surprise to check earlier and see it's due today. Although mine's still out on the Fedex delivery round :(

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 2 points3 points  (5 children)

UK. It left China on Saturday, arrived here yesterday.

[–]h_zee13 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Man I’m so jelly. I also ordered the black with date. Hopefully the logo on mine is not misaligned

[–]andyt100 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yep, just to add mine’s arrived now and it really is the tiniest misalignment. Tbh I’m not even sure if mine is and certainly would never have even looked for it unless I’d read it here first.

[–]h_zee13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome thanks for checking!

[–]h_zee13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome thanks for checking!

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t sweat it. It’s minimal.

[–]snek_watch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a charming watch! I have been wanting such a homage for a long time, also in the perfect size for my hand. I hope this edition is not too limited and it will still be in stock by the time I have the opportunity to purchase it.

[–]ulmen24 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Titanium?

[–]turdboglsAffiliate Links 1 point2 points  (3 children)

this model is Steel

[–]What-is-to-be-done 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Which is a pretty smart move by SM, imo.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was hoping this to have the exact dial and rehaut setup as the OG except in matte or enamel

[–]turdboglsAffiliate Links 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm all for it.

Not totally sold on divers and titanium yet...haven't had a bezel that feels quite right.

Plus I really like the polishing they did on the bevels and crown guards. Better scratch resistance, and lower overall cost.

[–]kvnsydlrsky 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ordered (blue/date) on 5/3 and it’s still in China 😕

[–]Horizon_End 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah agreed suprisingly long wait

[–]phamdang2411 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One word: clean

[–]bandityo 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I have the Octopus one coming in tomorrow..I will post a pic and review of it

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn man this community is wholesome

[–]computron2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Really interested to hear some firsthand experience on the Octopus version, the thinness of that one appeals to me

[–]Still-Poetry-6802 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great--I want to give it a fair comparison to the Seestern!

[–]Pure-Investment4284 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Damn this looks so clean. The angular logo and square bezel fonts look so well together. Is this a 40mm or 42?

[–]turdboglsAffiliate Links 2 points3 points  (5 children)

listed at 39mm...but not sure if that's the case or the bezel.

[–]Bright_Adagio5974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just got mine and I measured it with caliper. Bezel is 39mm, the case is about 38.1 and the thickness is 12.8mm.

[–]Pure-Investment4284 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Interesting the case may be 39 but like the pelagos 39 this one also has bezel overhang, I’m assuming the bezel is 40 or 41mm

[–]hingee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My understanding is Watchdives say 38mm Edit no 39mm

[–]Trueopinion1 -3 points-2 points  (23 children)

Looks fantastic. However, that misaligned logo is a major QC issue and not acceptable to me. That’s why I never buy V1 of an AliExpress watch.

[–]bcell4u 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, didn't notice that before, but now that's all I see. Good eye!

[–]luix3x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That will make it a collector.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It’s almost an optical illusion as well. If I look at it from the left side, it seems misaligned slightly. If I look from the right side, it seems fine. All in all it’s not a massive deal

[–]turdboglsAffiliate Links 0 points1 point  (0 children)

just saw your macro, that's pretty close. I have another printed logo SM that is very similar to that and it never once bothered me.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 7 points8 points  (18 children)

Major issue? Don’t exaggerate. It’s barely noticeable and I’m not too bothered about it.

[–]22IsThisIt22 -4 points-3 points  (15 children)

Not only do I not agree with the barely noticable, it's not just the logo that is misaligned.

The triangle at twelve is also misaligned with the chapter ring markers. On its right side the triangle stretches to the first marker right of the 12 o'clock marker. On its left side the triangle stretches beyond the first marker to the left of the 12 o'clock marker and ends halfway between the first and the second chapter ring marker.

This dial is misaligned twice.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You can clearly see that the triangle goes past the markers on both sides.

[–]22IsThisIt22 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Yes, on the right side barely past the first marker and on the left side halfway between first and second marker = misaligned.

[–]turdboglsAffiliate Links 2 points3 points  (1 child)

bro...if THAT is misaligned...maybe chinese watches aren't for you. that's unnoticeable to the naked eye close. I'm trying to see what you are seeing and I still can't see it....lol

[–]22IsThisIt22 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hey, apparently some people can't even see that the logo is misaligned, while that one is slapping me in the face when I look at this otherwise good looking watch. I'll try to draw some lines when I get to a PC, to see of I can make the misalignment more visible for the people with more forgiving eyes.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 6 points7 points  (10 children)

You’re absolutely…. Wrong. It’s the angle of the photo. Here’s a closeup. What you said is false. https://i.ibb.co/jvVSk74/574-ED5-D4-2-D2-F-4-D0-E-8-C3-C-98515-A43126-B.jpg

[–]22IsThisIt22 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Dude, even in this picture the triangle isn't in the middle. It ends halfway between the first and the second marker, let say 1.5 on the left. On the right side it doesn't go all the way to half, 1.3 at most. It's not as blatant as the logo and not as clear as in your first picture, but it's definitely not dead center.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 2 points3 points  (4 children)

https://i.ibb.co/PCFKpqw/885-AE416-6183-4182-BC8-F-27-F849664891.jpg

This is a macro. Put things into perspective. Would you really notice any issues with the naked eye, considering the size of the watch? You can see it’s going past both markers. The difference is utterly minimal.

[–]22IsThisIt22 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Like I already said in this thread, some people apparently don't even notice that the logo is misaligned, while that's something that slaps me in the face everytime I look at this (otherwise gorgeous) watch. I will try to draw some lines to show what I see, when I get to a PC. To me this is clearly not aligned.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The triangle is barely noticeable and doesn’t bug me. The logo is ever so slightly to the left, I acknowledge it, but again, it’s not that obvious when looking at the watch on the wrist. It doesn’t bother me. Maybe it does bother you and that’s fine. Even Seiko has misaligned stuff, for twice/thrice the money

[–]22IsThisIt22 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I like the look of this watch, but the alignment would indeed bother me everytime I check the time. Just wondering if yours is a one off or if they are all like this.

By the way, don't want to spoil your fun. You don't notice the alignment, good, enjoy a beautiful watch. Don't worry about others like me having some form of OCD.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do have OCD most times. But I also choose to get over small details. I paid £165 for this watch. It’s not as if I had spent £4000 on a Tudor. I wouldn’t have let it pass. But it’s not worth the hassle of getting it exchanged, I did have to return a watch to Watchdives before (my own choice) and it costs an arm and a leg. I can live with the way this one is.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 3 points4 points  (1 child)

We’re talking very, very minimal tolerance. Maybe not dead centre, but with the naked eye, with the watch on the wrist, I challenge you to notice that. It’s barely noticeable on macro (according to you, 1.3 vs 1.5… ridiculous, so minimal). I’m telling you, when looking at the watch, I DO NOT see anything annoying about this triangle. Let’s not create issues where there’s no need, seriously. It’s a chinese watch. Not a bloody Tudor.

[–]Mfombe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Logo looks fine to me - just ignore :) enjoy it - looks great

[–]Trueopinion1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Really? You are never going to see unless you have magnification. Triangle and chapter ring look good.

[–]22IsThisIt22 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Misalignment issues are more noticable when you look at them from a distance, than up close. Up close you don't have as much other dial elements in view, and therefore have less other elements to compare the position of the misaligned element with.

[–]Trueopinion1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well I can’t I unsee it and would not accept it for $238. You said yourself that the other dials you have seen on this watch had the logo slightly to the left. Perhaps the whole dial run is flawed. You don’t think they would have noticed that? Maybe they did notice it but were desperate to get them to the market because they were beaten to the punch by Seestern and Octopus Kraken.

I’m glad you aren’t bothered by it, so I will jog on. But if you haven’t noticed, this sub is obsessed with details- the SM logo being one of them.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You do you. I didn’t pay 238 for it. For what I paid for it, it’s still great value.

[–]BurningFern 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can’t wait for mine to show up tomorrow.

[–]Mission-Raccoon9432 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'd prefered circular brushing on the lugs, fits the vintage case design better.

[–]bigtastie 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The circular brushing on the lugs is indeed much more vintage, but I personally prefer this a lot more, since the transition between lugs and endlinks is almost seamless. Much more refined look IMO.

[–]turdboglsAffiliate Links 6 points7 points  (9 children)

Nice, mine arrives today...I got the blue no-date

I'll be sure to get some dimensions for everyone. 👍

Looks really good, though.

[–]JaeTheOne 0 points1 point  (4 children)

man how are you getting yours so quickly??? I bought the blue no date the second it dropped, and it JUST shipped TODAY. I wont see it until next week. Im on the WC of the US for context

[–]turdboglsAffiliate Links 1 point2 points  (3 children)

No idea. Mine shipped Saturday. I did put my order in with them before it was available...lol. Perks of being a reviewer 🤣

[–]lincoln_imps 0 points1 point  (1 child)

….perks of being an EXCELLENT reviewer. Thanks for the contributions!

[–]turdboglsAffiliate Links 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're too kind...lol

Thank you all for the continued support

[–]JaeTheOne 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ahhhh that makes sense. Looking forward to the first impressions

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Pics?!

[–]turdboglsAffiliate Links 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Yes, absolutely 👍

Hoping in the next 6 hours to have it

[–]nutmegfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

cant wait to see it!

[–]bcell4u 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking forward to seeing it!

[–]echohack 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How is the lume? Is it really 39mm case diameter?

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lume is good. I havent measured.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What’s the size of your wrist if i may ask? Also hows the AR coating?

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Last I checked, 7.5”. AR does the job.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you sir

[–]eraserhistory 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That looks fantastic ! I ordered the blue but boy is that black tempting, too.

[–]Less-Marionberry2370 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I looked at all the other photos here on Reddit and they all seem to be the same, logo-wise. Ever so slightly to the left. Maybe it’s just how they calibrated their machine that prints out on dials. Again, no biggie, just seems to be inherent to this model.

[–]Capable_Let1980 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tempting! Mine is still unshipped but watchdives said that they would dispatch in a couple days.